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''It was not fun. Like hell it was fun. It was a lot of hard work. It was not fun at all."''
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== Multiple Offenders ==
* This was a hallmark of most of the films of [[Orson Welles]] after ''[[Citizen Kane]]'', mostly due to his difficulties in raising funds and sometimes simple crappy luck (a film called ''The Deep'' was shelved after star [[Laurence Harvey]] died).
** ''The Deep'' would later be remade (and completed) as ''Dead Calm'' (which didn't suffer through a troubled production).
* [[James Cameron]] seems to be a lightning rod for this trope.
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** Gilliam has attempted unsuccessfully to relaunch production several times since 2005. He restarted preliminary work in 2008 with Robert Duvall as Quixote. Depp was still attached to play Grisoni, but because of his tight schedule he had to leave the project and was replaced by Ewan McGregor. In 2010, Gilliam announced that the funding had collapsed.
** In November 2014, it was reported that Don Quixote was in full pre-production once again, with [[John Hurt]] as Quixote and Jack O'Connell as Grisoni. Filming was set to begin in 2016, however it was announced in September 2015 that the film had been suspended again, due to Hurt being diagnosed with cancer shortly before filming (he died in 2017). A final filming attempt, this time with Adam Driver as Toby (who also helped secure funding), and Jonathan Pryce as Quixote, was unexpectedly announced in March 2017; the film finished its filming by June of the same year, and was finally premiered in Cannes on May 19, 2018.
* Pretty much any collaboration between [[Werner Herzog]] and [[Klaus Kinski]] was guaranteed to be this; most notably ''[[Fitzcarraldo]]'', which took the problems of ''[[Apocalypse Now]]'' and turned them [[Up to Eleven]]. Among the many problems with the production was that, instead of using special effects to replicate the feat of towing a huge boat up and over the side of a mountain, Herzog insisted in doing it for real. Numerous serious injuries and at least one death resulted. ''[[Aguirre, the Wrath of God]]'' was almost as troubled; though not as fatal.
** Herzog and Kinski's highly tempestuous relationship was chronicled in Herzog's documentary on Kinski -- ''My Best Fiend'' (yes, that's spelled correctly). Although the story of Werner forcing Klaus to perform his scenes at the point of a gun is apocryphal, he freely admits they both threatened on numerous occasions to kill each other; and actually attempted it at least once each.
** And, like ''Apocalyspe'', ''Fitzcarraldo'''s trouble production is the subject of its own documentary film, ''Burden of Dreams''. Near the end, Herzog speculates that he should give up filmmaking and go into a mental asylum.
 
 
== By Decade ==
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=== 1960s ===
* ''[[Casino Royale 1967]]''. ''Casino Royale'' was the only [[Ian Fleming]] novel EON Productions failed to secure the rights to due to a bunch of legal issues, and it ended up with Charles Feldman. Unable to get EON onboard and do a straight movie, he turned it into an insane, psychedelic parody of spy films with an [[All-Star Cast]]. There were multiple directors, none of them working with a finished script but all working independently, and there were also [[Too Many Cooks Spoil the Soup|numerous screenwriters]]. [[Peter Sellers]] argued with [[Orson Welles]], and the former was eventually fired ''despite playing the lead character''. Many of the other actors were brought in to make up for this, many of whom assume the 007 moniker at some point. The editor seemed to be instructed to put the film together in the most disjointed, nonsensical fashion possible. And [[The Agony Booth]] has recapped it [https://web.archive.org/web/20160324010608/http://www.agonybooth.com/recaps/Casino_Royale_1967.aspx here].
* A few movies in the [[James Bond (film)|James Bond]] series had minor cases of it: ''[[From Russia with Love]]'' had to undergo a [[Ridiculously-Fast Construction]] because the producers had already set a release date, and they had to face problems such a boat of cameras sinking into the Bosphorus and a helicopter falling into a lake (with the director inside!) while location scouting; and ''[[On Her Majesty's Secret Service]]'' had a few stuntmen accidents, and leading man George Lazenby had conflicts with the director and the producers.
* [[Jacques Tati]] envisioned ''Playtime'' as his [[Magnum Opus]], and for that [[Epic Movie|the film had to be somewhat more than ordinary]]. This grand social satire and ode to classic slapstick could not be done on any ordinary set. Rather, it required a set for which ''two full-size modernistic buildings'' had to be constructed on the outskirts of Paris, along with several smaller models, a full-size road, and its own working electrical system powered by a small plant. The development of the film would then necessitate numerous script rewrites and continuous maintenance of the set. Filming in itself lasted '''three years''', during which Tati had to take out numerous loans in order to continue production. In order to further accommodate his immense vision, the film was shot on 70mm film and edited for a stereophonic sound setup. These decisions would eventually cause difficulties in finding theatres that could properly screen the film. When the project was finally completed and released in 1967, it flopped pitifully. The official budget has gone unreported, but the failure of ''Playtime'' led Tati to file for bankruptcy and pay off the film's debts for the rest of his life. [[Vindicated by History|Fortunately the film's reputation has improved since its release and is now considered Tati's masterpiece.]]
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** George Cukor told the Soviet studio head how honored he was to be filming in the same studio where Sergei Eisenstein had filmed ''[[The Battleship Potemkin]]'' in 1925. "Yes," said the studio head, "and with the very same equipment."
* ''[[Monty Python and the Holy Grail]]''. [[No Budget]], the directors clashing with each other, Graham Chapman either getting drunk or suffering from withdrawal on set, getting a location veto shortly before filming began, actors [http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0071853/trivia?tr0767057 rushing back to the hotel after wrapping for the day in order to bathe]...
* Pretty much any collaboration between [[Werner Herzog]] and [[Klaus Kinski]] was guaranteed to be this; most notably ''[[Fitzcarraldo]]'', which took the problems of ''[[Apocalypse Now]]'' and turned them [[Up to Eleven]]. Among the many problems with the production was that, instead of using special effects to replicate the feat of towing a huge boat up and over the side of a mountain, Herzog insisted in doing it for real. Numerous serious injuries and at least one death resulted. ''[[Aguirre, the Wrath of God]]'' was almost as troubled; though not as fatal.
** Herzog and Kinski's highly tempestuous relationship was chronicled in Herzog's documentary on Kinski -- ''My Best Fiend'' (yes, that's spelled correctly). Although the story of Werner forcing Klaus to perform his scenes at the point of a gun is apocryphal, he freely admits they both threatened on numerous occasions to kill each other; and actually attempted it at least once each.
** And, like ''Apocalyspe'', ''Fitzcarraldo'''s trouble production is the subject of its own documentary film, ''Burden of Dreams''. Near the end, Herzog speculates that he should give up filmmaking and go into a mental asylum.
* ''[[Dersu Uzala]]'', due to [[Akira Kurosawa]] having to work in the USSR as no Japanese studio wanted to fund him at the time. The resulting studio, Mosfilm, clashed with Kurosawa as his perfectionism did not fit the "deliver a certain amount of shot film per day" the company wanted. Union fights were recurrent, and cameramen were changed every week. There was only one interpreter - to a crew of mostly Russians! To make the tiger attack more realistic, a wild one was used instead of a domesticated animal - and needless to say, it wasn't collaborative. No wonder the film took 3 years to get ready.
* ''[[The Exorcist]]'' went over budget and schedule ($4,5 million and 105 days to $12 million and over 200 days plus 6 months of post-production!), and William Friedkin proved to be a [[Prima Donna Director]] who [[Bad Boss|didn't care much for the cast and crew]] (for instance, Ellen Burstyn complained that for the scene Chris is telekinetically thrown against a wall, the stuntmen were pulling her too hard... and Friedkin's response was a take so strong Burstyn injured herself!).To make it worse, there were strange events (such as the interior sets of the MacNeil residence getting burned) that lead people to consider the film cursed.
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=== 1990s ===
* The production of the fifth ''Superman'' movie definitely qualifies, especially if one considers all the different versions it went through on the road to becoming ''[[Superman Returns]]'' (which actually had a calm production). [[The Other Wiki]] has a [[wikipedia:Superman (film series)#Proposals for fifth film|very exhaustive listing]], but the best-known facet is that later stages were essentially a battle between two sides. On one hand we had writers like [[Kevin Smith]] (who wittily recounts his experiences on the project [http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vgYhLIThTvk here]) who wanted to produce a faithful, respectful treatment of Superman's mythos. On the other we had producer Jon Peters, who said Supes' red-and-blues looked "too faggy", wanted to give Brainiac a robot sidekick described as "a gay [[Star Wars|R2-D2]] with attitude", and demanded that Superman battle a [[Spider Tank|giant robot spider]].
* The 1996 ''[[The Island of Doctor Moreau]]'' had two directors because dealing with prima donnas Val Kilmer and Marlon Brando (who were both going through bad days: the former, a divorce; the latter, a daughter killing herself) proved too much for Richard Stanley, who left for John Frankenheimer to take over (he faced the two on the same coin: [https://web.archive.org/web/20121024031242/http://www.ew.com/ew/article/0,,292752_3,00.html apparently] once he replied Kilmer with "I don't give a fuck. Get off my set!"). Co-star David Thewlis had such a terrible time making the film that he skipped the premiere and has vowed to never watch it. The final result shows how bad it was.
* ''[[Waterworld]]''. Budget overrun (from $100 million to the then-record $175 million), director Kevin Reynolds leaving and leading [[Kevin Costner]] [[Wag the Director|to further take over the film]], a hurricane destroying the sets, stuntmen getting lost or drowned... and [[Executive Meddling]] kicked in to order cuts and reshoots.
* ''[[Power Rangers]]'' already suffered badly with their series, as anthe entry belowin the [[Troubled Production/Real Life/Live-Action TV|Real Life/Live-Action TV]] section shows... but the movies were worse! ''[[Mighty Morphin Power Rangers (film)|Mighty Morphin Power Rangers]]: The Movie'' was directed by guys who had the pleasure of watching the entire series up until that point "with the wonders of the fast forward button". Amongst many of the movie's problems were the insistence of having the teens' faces exposed in morphed state (which was later vetoed after they realized they they really shouldn't), having to scrap a major training montage with Dulcea due to problems with her actress and having a small time window to film. When that was passed up, Saban was forced to film a few episodes in Australia, where the movie was being made!
** ''[[Turbo a Power Rangers Movie]]'' was just as bad. Initially envisioned as a reunion of the original MMPR cast teaming up with the new Turbo team, it fell apart when Walter Jones and Thuy Trang refused to give up their Guild membership cards to film. The explanation of the Turbo powers was dropped when David Yost left near the end of ''[[Power Rangers Zeo]]''. The original cut was actually over ''three hours long'' and they were forced to trim it down to under two. Beyond all of that, it was no wonder the movie flopped!
* The movie version of ''[[Mystery Science Theater 3000]]'' was rife with problems. The original plan was for them to reveal how Joel got tossed onto the Satellite of Love and built his robot friends - Crow, Tom, Gypsy and Cambot. The executive liked it, but he didn't want the series' main catch - the riffing - to be prominent. This, along with a few other problems, lead to Joel Hodgson to leave the series halfway through Season 5. When the movie idea was picked back up, more problems came about - Universal would only let them use movies that they chose and they were stuck with ''[[This Island Earth]]''. They were forced to not only cut out movie scenes - which meant the entirety of the movie was shorter than your normal ''[[Mystery Science Theater 3000]]'' episode - but lop one host segment and modify the last one, killing a [[Brick Joke]] set up from the very beginning. And the killing blow? The company producing this had the option of fully backing either this or ''[[Barb Wire]]''. [[It Will Never Catch On|Guess what they chose?]] (and considering [http://www.boxofficemojo.com/weekend/chart/?view=main&yr=1996&wknd=16&sort=avg&order=DESC&p=.htm how high the theater averages were], who knows how much it would have grossed without [[Invisible Advertising]]?)
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=== 2000s ===
* The ''[[Pirates of the Caribbean]]'' [[Two-Part Trilogy|sequels]] - more specifically, the second. Writing wasn't finished by the time it started, ships had to be built, the small island where it was filmed wasn't ready to receive the huge crew, and Hurricane Wilma devastated the Bahamas set.
* The 2004 parody remake of ''[[The Stepford Wives (2004 film)|The Stepford Wives]]'' underwent massive reshoots, script rewrites that created gaping plot holes, John and Joan Cusack pulling out of the film (and [[Nicole Kidman]], who played the main character, considering it after she saw the changes to the script), and fighting on set between director Frank Oz and his stars. It all built to an utterly incoherent final product that bombed at the box office and was savaged by critics.
 
=== 2010s ===
* ''[[John Carter]]'': There were reservations at Disney about letting Andrew Stanton direct the film, despite his strong sentimental attachment to the material, because he'd never directed a live-action feature before. But, since he'd made ''[[WALL-E]]'' and ''[[Finding Nemo]]'' into hits, they let him do it even though he warned them, "I'm not gonna get it right the first time, I'll tell you that right now." Indeed, the film required extensive double reshoots. Throughout production, he ignored the advice of the crewmembers who were live-action veterans in favor of his Pixar friends, back in their offices. Rich Ross (fired over this) and the other studio executives at Disney likewise had little experience with feature films, since most had come from television.
** Then, it came time to market the film, which was already handicapped in that department by having no big stars in the cast. A trailer shown at a Disney con did not go over well, and Stanton refused to take any advice from the studio's marketing department. He insisted on using [[Led Zeppelin]]'s "Kashmir" in the trailer even after it was pointed out to him that a 30-year-old classic-rock song was not likely to resonate with the younger male audience the film was intended for. The movie also went through last-minute retitling, dropping "Princess" and "Mars" from the title because those were thought to turn off the male and female segments of the youth audience respectively.
* The 2015 ''[[Fantastic Four (2015 film)|Fantastic Four]]'' film, aka ''[[Xtreme Kool Letterz|Fant4stic]]'', is not only one of the worst films of the decade so far, but also infamous for a tumultuous production on par with the likes of ''Ishtar.'' Be it the crass [[Executive Meddling]], the conflicts between director Josh Trask, the cast and the producers, studio executives not having a lot of trust in the movie save for keeping the license in their hands (rather than handing it back to Marvel and Disney), hastily arranged reshoots or a host of various other backroom drama and politics, the film seemed doomed to fail from the start.
 
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