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Since the full stop at the end isn't in red, it means that the entire statement is actually incomplete, and is therefore unreliable. Depending on just what is missing, Beatrice's statement might be completely true or completely false, or inbetween. For example, we can fill this statement in in two different ways:
 
Beatrice: "'''<span style="color:red;">So from now on, when I speak the truth, I will use red</span>{{<span style="color|:#bb0000|;">.}}</span>'''"
 
Beatrice: "'''<span style="color:red;">So from now on, when I speak the truth, I will use red</span>{{<span style="color|:#bb0000|;">, but only in such a way which will benefit me and me only. That means that I am free to play around with words, punctuation, and transitivity of titles and other indicators of personal identity in order to bend and twist your perception of the objective, or in the case of humans as a species with faulty and biased senses, intersubjective truth. I also grant myself the privilege to be the one single entity who is allowed to lie in red. Everyone else is barred from that, and will be punished for that immediately by getting their mouths shut by non-deadly asphyxiation.}}</span>'''"
 
<span style="color:blue;">If this claim is true, then the second game's first twilight's closed room has been blown open from all sides, and not even episode 4's ''????'' epilogue red truths can save it from being destroyed!</span>
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* We cannot say whether there will be a twist or an untwist regarding this matter. If we, let's say, expect a twist regarding the nature of the red truth, and get an untwist, then that's a meta-twist by itself. However, if we expect an (un)twist, and get exactly that, then that's some sort of a meta-untwist. We can take this to the n-th degree, and end up completely confused. In the end however, this whole is binary - we will get either an n-th degree twist (1), or an n-th degree untwist (0) in the very end. I will now introduce the 'Schrödinger truth': it lets us analyze the circumstances and draw a conclusion regarding the probability of there being a twist behind the red truth:
** {{<span style="color|:#00aa88| ;">There will either be a twist or an untwist/absence of a twist regarding the red truth. The probability at this point for either to be is equal.}}</span>
 
** {{<span style="color|:#00aa88| ;">Anything Ryuukishi states outside the novels might be a red herring, and therefore anything he reveals outside of the novels can not be regarded as reliable information. Therefore, the probability for X to carry the value of 1 is equal to the probability for X to carry the value of 0.}}</span>
** {{color|#00aa88| There will either be a twist or an untwist/absence of a twist regarding the red truth. The probability at this point for either to be is equal.}}
** {{<span style="color|:#00aa88| ;">The red truth is founded on the fallacy of bare assertion. Basically, the red truth claims it's telling the truth at all times, but nothing other than the red truth itself can confirm that. That is a huge loophole, what means that there is a great chance for a first-degree twist to be lodged there, waiting to be exposed. However, this is only a postulate. Therefore, this isn't reliable information either.}}</span>
 
** {{<span style="color|:#00aa88| ;">Any hint or revelation regarding the red truth before a certain (unspecified as of now) point in the storyline might be a red herring.}}</span>
** {{color|#00aa88| Anything Ryuukishi states outside the novels might be a red herring, and therefore anything he reveals outside of the novels can not be regarded as reliable information. Therefore, the probability for X to carry the value of 1 is equal to the probability for X to carry the value of 0.}}
* {{<span style="color|:#00aa88| ;">After examining these four statements, we can say nothing but that '''a first-degree twist is equally possible as a first-degree untwist at this point in time'''.}}</span> (Keep in mind that the 'Schrodinger truth' is not really a truth, but rather a tool which may or may not help us judge how something might develop in the near future.)
 
** {{color|#00aa88| The red truth is founded on the fallacy of bare assertion. Basically, the red truth claims it's telling the truth at all times, but nothing other than the red truth itself can confirm that. That is a huge loophole, what means that there is a great chance for a first-degree twist to be lodged there, waiting to be exposed. However, this is only a postulate. Therefore, this isn't reliable information either.}}
 
** {{color|#00aa88| Any hint or revelation regarding the red truth before a certain (unspecified as of now) point in the storyline might be a red herring.}}
 
* {{color|#00aa88| After examining these four statements, we can say nothing but that '''a first-degree twist is equally possible as a first-degree untwist at this point in time'''.}} (Keep in mind that the 'Schrodinger truth' is not really a truth, but rather a tool which may or may not help us judge how something might develop in the near future.)
* (OP Here) However, an aspect of the WMG isn't that not every absense of a twist is an untwist. What we're dealing with as for the nature of the red is four possibilities, not two:
** A Twist - There are some bizarre rules to the Red/Gold which are revealed near the end which blow open a hole in the case.
 
** Absense of a Twist - The rules of Red/Gold are laid out in enough detail that they make perfect sense before the end.
 
** Type-1 Untwist(True Untwist) - Red/Gold is simple but implied to be complex... but isn't.
 
** Type-2 Untwist(Self-Inflicted Mind-Screw) - What this WMG postulates. Red is exactly what Beatrice said it is completely straightforwardly, gold is not all that much more complex, and we're just working ourselves up to the point where we're doing Ryukishi's Mind Screw work for him.