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** Papyrus thinks he is ''the'' most awesome person in the whole world. You still can't help but love him because he's always unflinchingly nice and helpful to everyone. He never looks down on people with smug superiority, but wants to help everyone else be ''almost'' as awesome as he is (equaling him is impossible)!
** Papyrus thinks he is ''the'' most awesome person in the whole world. You still can't help but love him because he's always unflinchingly nice and helpful to everyone. He never looks down on people with smug superiority, but wants to help everyone else be ''almost'' as awesome as he is (equaling him is impossible)!
** Mettaton. Just about everybody both in-universe and out thinks he's absolutely delightful.
** Mettaton. Just about everybody both in-universe and out thinks he's absolutely delightful.
*[[Broken Base]]:Wether or not shipping "Charasriel" {{spoiler|The Fallen Child and Asirel}} is acceptable. Some say it's incest while others point out They are not blood siblings.
* [[Base Breaker]]: Alphys and Asgore are easily the biggest examples, with Toriel not too far behind.
* [[Base Breaker]]: Alphys and Asgore are easily the biggest examples, with Toriel not too far behind.
** Asgore has people split into two camps: there are those who view him as irredeemable for being responsible for the deaths of six children and think that Toriel has every right to view him as a despicable monster {{spoiler|no matter how horrible he feels about it}}. Others, however, absolutely love him for being a rather complex and tragic [[Anti-Villain]] who was dealt an absolutely shitty hand in life thanks to {{spoiler|the death of his two children leading him to make a horrible mistake in the heat of the moment}}.
** Asgore has people split into two camps: there are those who view him as irredeemable for being responsible for the deaths of six children and think that Toriel has every right to view him as a despicable monster {{spoiler|no matter how horrible he feels about it}}. Others, however, absolutely love him for being a rather complex and tragic [[Anti-Villain]] who was dealt an absolutely shitty hand in life thanks to {{spoiler|the death of his two children leading him to make a horrible mistake in the heat of the moment}}.
** Alphys, however, is even more decisive for similar reasons as Asgore: {{spoiler|she made a ''lot'' of awful mistakes that she regrets deeply, such as setting up a lot of dangerous obstacles she'd help the player overcome in order to boost her self-esteem, and creating the horrifying, tortured Amalgamates due to recklessly experimenting with determination}}. These have led to people loving and pitying her, while others look at her with scorn and view her as an irredeemably selfish bitch. Not helping matters is how overbearing her geeky, status-update spamming personality is: with some loving her for being a goofy nerd, while others loathe her for being obnoxious.
** Alphys, however, is even more decisive for similar reasons as Asgore: {{spoiler|she made a ''lot'' of awful mistakes that she regrets deeply, such as setting up a lot of dangerous obstacles she'd help the player overcome in order to boost her self-esteem, and creating the horrifying, tortured Amalgamates due to recklessly experimenting with determination}}. These have led to people loving and pitying her, while others look at her with scorn and view her as an irredeemably selfish bitch. Not helping matters is how overbearing her geeky, status-update spamming personality is: with some loving her for being a goofy nerd, while others loathe her for being obnoxious.
** While generally well-liked thanks to making a good first-impression, her actions in the True Pacifist ending have really gotten people's opinions split on Toriel. {{spoiler|While some think her cold, harsh treatment of Asgore is justified due to his actions, others think it's needlessly mean-spirited and cruel to kick a broken, grieving man while he's already down}}. Not helping matters is the relevation that {{spoiler|she was his queen, and that she ditched the throne to leave Asgore by himself. Was she in the right to abandon him due to abandoning the principles he once stood for? Or is she a selfish, hypocritical bitch for calling him a spineless coward when she herself abandoned him and their people during their time of need though the latter is largely mitigated by several neutral run endings which show she very much would have led her people if not for the war}}?
** While generally well-liked thanks to making a good first-impression, her actions in the True Pacifist ending have really gotten people's opinions split on Toriel. {{spoiler|While some think her cold, harsh treatment of Asgore is justified due to his actions, others think it's needlessly mean-spirited and cruel to kick a broken, grieving man while he's already down}}. Not helping matters is the relevation that {{spoiler|she was his queen, and that she ditched the throne to leave Asgore by himself. Was she in the right to abandon him due to abandoning the principles he once stood for? Or is she a selfish, hypocritical bitch for calling him a spineless coward when she herself abandoned him and their people during their time of need though the latter is largely mitigated by several neutral run endings which show she very much would have led her people if not for the war}}?
* [[Broken Base]]: Whether or not shipping "Charasriel" {{spoiler|(the Fallen Child and Asriel)}} is acceptable. Some say it's incest while others point out they are not blood siblings.
* [[Complete Monster]]: While they're subjected to a lot of guesswork and theorizing in regards to how evil they truly are, this is definitely how the Fallen Child can come across when one looks at their actions and personality in the game proper. While they were definitely a troubled child in life, a Genocide run ends with {{spoiler|them taking control from the player and committing not only ''patricide'' and ''fratricide'', but ''omnicide'' as well. While the player was the one responsible for killing all the monsters leading up to this moment, the Fallen Child still makes the active choice to not only wipe out the game's world themselves whether the player likes it or not, but to sabotage the best ending by killing everyone, even their own adopted family afterwards should the player go for one again}}.
* [[Complete Monster]]: While they're subjected to a lot of guesswork and theorizing in regards to how evil they truly are, this is definitely how the Fallen Child can come across when one looks at their actions and personality in the game proper. While they were definitely a troubled child in life, a Genocide run ends with {{spoiler|them taking control from the player and committing not only ''patricide'' and ''fratricide'', but ''omnicide'' as well. While the player was the one responsible for killing all the monsters leading up to this moment, the Fallen Child still makes the active choice to not only wipe out the game's world themselves whether the player likes it or not, but to sabotage the best ending by killing everyone, even their own adopted family afterwards should the player go for one again}}.
** Of course, the players themselves can aim to be one should they wish. While the Fallen Child is the one pulling the strings for the last portion of the game, in a Genocide run, the player themselves made the choice to kill every monster in their way, no matter how friendly or innocent they were, and you can easily go out of your way to be as cruel as possible: you can stab Toriel in the back after convincing her to stand down, murder the Royal Guards in front of each other after {{spoiler|getting them to confess to one another}}...
** Of course, the players themselves can aim to be one should they wish. While the Fallen Child is the one pulling the strings for the last portion of the game, in a Genocide run, the player themselves made the choice to kill every monster in their way, no matter how friendly or innocent they were, and you can easily go out of your way to be as cruel as possible: you can stab Toriel in the back after convincing her to stand down, murder the Royal Guards in front of each other after {{spoiler|getting them to confess to one another}}...