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*** The existence of at least one ''What If?'' issue dedicated to this mess means there is at ''least'' one alternate world with another version of Wanda capable of erasing all reality. Probably more. Even [[Excalibur (Comic Book)|Mad Jim Jaspers]] and the [[Villain Sue|(sigh)]] [[Fantastic Four|Marquis of Death]] were at least established to be unique in the multiverse. If there are a bunch of batshit-crazy omnipotent Wandas running around, how is ''anything'' still here?

* ''House of M'' came about because Quicksilver was afraid the Avengers and X-men would kill Wanda because her powers were out of control; it was even suggested that this might be necessary. This was around the time ''Astonishing X-men'' was running a story arc about a way to remove mutant powers, seemingly safely and permanently. [[Poor Communication Kills]].

**Well curing Wanda's powers wouldn't have fixed the issue as she is still suffering severe mental health issues and needed profession help. The real wall banger is the story resorting to [[There Are No Therapists]] who could help Wanda despite the existence of certified therapists such as Emma Forst (who is one the side of killing Wanda) and Doc Sampson who could help Wanda cope with her issues. In addition some of the memebers of both teams did consider killing her [[Properly Paranoid|so Pietro was right to be concerned.]]

* In ''Wolverine #43'', Wolverine was [[Stripped to the Bone]] from a blast by Nitro (yes, [[Civil War (Comic Book)|that Nitro]]). It took less than five pages for Wolverine to [[From a Single Cell|fully]] [[Healing Factor|regenerate]]. If Wolverine could survive that, then he can survive lethal threats like being shot, stabbed, drowned, nuked, etc.; this kills some of the suspense. To add salt to the wound, after being cornered, Nitro decided to take Wolverine hostage by putting a knife up his throat after HAVING WITNESSED WOLVERINE FULLY REGENERATE FROM BEING STRIPPED TO THE BONES BY A NUKE!

** An additional Wallbanger comes when Wolverine starts beating up Nitro, while he explains in his narration that he has noticed how Nitro's explosions don't harm himself. He then concludes that Nitro has a safety area around him, in which the blast doesn't effect anything. So Wolverine can beat him up because any blast wouldn't effect him from that range anymore. However, back at the beginning of Civil War, Namorita stands all of 10 centimeters away from Nitro, whom she holds against a bus. We clearly see her getting blasted to bits when Nitro causes the Stamford incident.

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** [[Nostalgia Filter|THESE DAYS?]] Read any bit of Spider-Man, Hulk, or X-Men. The people in Marvel have always been [[Dying Like Animals|suicidal retards]]. Besides, that's a focal point of the Marvel Universe: even JLA/Avengers noted it!

*** However, it didn't reach true wall-banging status until ''Civil War.''

***True, but there was reason for those characters to be hated in-universe. Spider-Man was a [[Hero with Bad Publicity]] because of J. Jonah Jameson and multiple attempts at a [[Frame-Up]] from villains like the Chamelon and Mysterio. Hulk is at best a [[Nominal Hero]] and at worst a [[Destructive Saviour]] and the X-Men while victims of [[Fantastic Racism]] are not helped by the fact that the majority villains including Magneto are mutants themselves who end up giving the rest of their kind a bad name.

* [[The Incredible Hulk|Red Hulk]] started as merely a powerful villain. Then he fought Thor. The fight ends up in space; then [[Fan Nickname|Rulk]] ''takes Thor's hammer and beats him up with it.'' Thor's hammer, by the way, is [[A Wizard Did It|enchanted]] so that nobody can lift it but Thor himself or a pure-hearted and worthy individual in a desperate situation. Obviously, [[Captain Obvious|Rulk is neither.]] Rulk says that he can bypass this because he is in zero gravity (which, considering he was between the Earth and the moon, is [[You Fail Physics Forever|objectively false]]). [[Fridge Logic|The hammer doesn't obey the laws of gravity for anything else, and its observable property of unliftable attraction to the ground would logically cause it to plummet to the planet's surface instead of fulfilling the directive of the enchantment]]. Even without the gleeful violation of [[Magic A Is Magic A]], this is when Rulk hit [[Villain Sue]] and never looked back. Note that, as the image on the [[Villain Sue]] page demonstrates, Rulk ''topped this'' in terms of Sue-ishness.

** Rulk will now be joining the Avengers...

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* The revelation of Catwoman's baby daughter Helena's father. In Ed Brubaker's run, Selina had a lot of romantic buildup with Bruce Wayne. They'd even consummated their relationship at one point...later, she has a daughter. That Bruce Wayne takes a strong interest in... Selina hints that her baby's father had an incident of violence in his past...that he used to be out during the night. And the baby's name is Helena, the same name as Bruce and Selina's daughter from the alternate continuity Earth...surely this is what we've been waiting for? No, sorry, it's Sam Bradley Jr! Let's discuss why this is stupid: All their romantic buildup happened offscreen and is totally stupid (the flashbacks basically have Selina decide she likes him and decides to sleep with him once because of events unfolding...despite this making little sense.) Selina had just come off a relationship with Sam's FATHER, Slam Bradley...Sam is an annoying little twerp of a character who never gave a reason why we should care about him at all, let alone the stupidity in throwing Selina at him after Bruce and Selina's buildup as a couple to that point. The day this is retconned out and Bruce is revealed as Helena's father will be a good one.

* If you ask someone who voted for Jason Todd to die why they voted that way, they'll usually cite his actions in Jim Starlin's "The Diplomat's Son" from Batman #424. Problem is, that story is a blatant [[Idiot Plot]]. The story opens with Jason beating down a rapist and turning him over to the police, only to discover that he's the titular diplomat's son. Yes, this is one of those stories where "diplomatic immunity" means [[Diplomatic Impunity|"diplomats can commit any atrocity they like and law enforcement is powerless to stop them,"]] so he walks. Seriously, ask any FBI agent and they could list a dozen different ways they could legally nail him. As for the rape victim, she is left alone in her apartment, with no police protection or counseling of any kind. I'm sure this won't lead to any negative outcome—oh look, the rapist just gave her a phone call threatening to come after her again and [[Driven to Suicide|she hanged herself.]] This leads to Robin confronting the rapist on a balcony, where he falls to his death and it's strongly implied that Robin pushed him. That's right, Jason Todd (allegedly) broke the [[Thou Shalt Not Kill]] rule against a [[Complete Monster]] who got away with his crimes due to a legal technicality that ''[[Conviction by Counterfactual Clue|doesn't actually exist,]]'' and that's why people wanted him to die.<ref>Nowadays it seems that fans who wanted Jason dead were actually a [[Vocal Minority]], with one person having made dozens of calls for his death and many others who wanted him to live being children at the time, so they weren't allowed to make the not-so-cheap call.</ref>

*''Robin'' has recently came out as gay in the Batman comics. As in the Tim Drake version. Tim has already been established as being straight including having a [[Love Triangle]] in his solo series with Ariana and Stephanie. Now after 30 years of being into women he is gay. While not the first this has been done in comics in a way that does not make sense (looking at you Iceman), Tim really hit me hard due being my favorite Robin. The Batfamily already has [[Loads and Loads of Characters]] so what would be the harm in introducing another original character to the group that was gay if you really needed to add a second one since there is already Batwoman.

* Chuck Austen's ''Godfall: Preus Returns'' makes his "vaporizing Communion wafers" story look downright respectful by comparison. How bad is it? There is a scene with the titular racist Kryptonian ''kills women by having sex with them, and continues to do so''.