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** Further used in ''[[Discworld|Night Watch]]'', when the People's Republic of Treacle Mine Road can't even agree on what they're fighting for beyond "Truth, Justice and Freedom" (those are free, you see). They settle on {{spoiler|"Truth, Justice, Freedom, Reasonably-Priced Love and a Hard-Boiled Egg!"}}

*** But subverted in that they still manage to be an effective fighting force and outright [[Zig-Zagging Trope|zig zagged]] because it dosn't actually make any difference if they have a decisive victory or a crushing defeat. The real changes are made far away by [[The Chessmaster]].

* In the [[Strugatsky Brothers]]' novel ''[[~~Prisoners of Power (Literature)|~~Prisoners of Power]]'', the mind-controlling totalitarian oligarchy is opposed by what may initially seem to be an unified rebel "Underground". However, to quote the novel itself, "the Underground wasn't a political party. What's more, it wasn't even a front of political parties". Its members couldn't even agree as to whether or not the mind control has to go. Factions range from blatant fascists (who want to overthrow the government and keep the mind control towers) to "biologists" (who just want to destroy the towers, but don't mind keeping the government - so they can't even agree about that), and there are factions within factions as well. It is explicitly pointed out that many prominent Underground leaders are either agents or secret allies of the government. The protagonist ultimately doesn't even bother trying to rally them, instead striking a deal with one of the less secure government leaders for inside information, recruiting a few of the more sensible Underground members and blowing up the mind control center without consulting anybody else. It is implied in later Noonverse novels that he and his allies then had to put down rebellions by some of the other groups, even though the country was already a terrible mess by then due to mind control withdrawal and such.

* In the [[Strugatsky Brothers]]' novel ''[[Prisoners of Power]]'', the mind-controlling totalitarian oligarchy is opposed by what may initially seem to be an unified rebel "Underground". However, to quote the novel itself, "the Underground wasn't a political party. What's more, it wasn't even a front of political parties". Its members couldn't even agree as to whether or not the mind control has to go. Factions range from blatant fascists (who want to overthrow the government and keep the mind control towers) to "biologists" (who just want to destroy the towers, but don't mind keeping the government - so they can't even agree about that), and there are factions within factions as well. It is explicitly pointed out that many prominent Underground leaders are either agents or secret allies of the government. The protagonist ultimately doesn't even bother trying to rally them, instead striking a deal with one of the less secure government leaders for inside information, recruiting a few of the more sensible Underground members and blowing up the mind control center without consulting anybody else. It is implied in later Noonverse novels that he and his allies then had to put down rebellions by some of the other groups, even though the country was already a terrible mess by then due to mind control withdrawal and such.

* ''[[The Thrawn Trilogy]]'', being the earliest-written look at the New Republic after the Emperor died, shows an unfortunate amount of political jockeying. Most of this can be blamed on Borsk Fey'lya and his attempts to gain power, but he's not alone. Garm Bel Iblis, after Bail Organa's death, had actually split off and formed his own rebellion against the Empire, since he thought Mon Mothma was becoming too authoritarian. One of the many plot points in the trilogy is his realizing that a great deal of her reasoning was due to [[The Chains of Commanding]], and they could work together again.

** Later [[Star Wars Expanded Universe]] books have the Empire shatter into squabbling warlords who fight over the true leadership while only weakening each other. In the [[Jedi Academy Trilogy]], the one success [[General Failure|Admiral Daala]] had was in reuniting those fragments and handing them over to Pellaeon after she'd lost a lot of the newly-reformed Empire's forces. Pellaeon worked at keeping the [[Vestigial Empire|Imperial Remnant]] together, [[Hand of Thrawn|then]] decided that it could only survive by [[Peace Conference|making peace with the New Republic]]. Of course, parts of the Empire didn't agree...