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{{quote|''I wish I'd given Oak to my son when he was a child, haha, just kidding, [[I Have No Son|I don't have a son]], well technically I do, but [[This Is Unforgivable!|he's in real estate...]]''}}
{{quote|''I wish I'd given Oak to my son when he was a child, haha, just kidding, [[I Have No Son|I don't have a son]], well technically I do, but [[This Is Unforgivable!|he's in real estate...]]''}}
* [http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hawQ5wobi1Y "Wouldja please pass the jelleh?"]
* [http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hawQ5wobi1Y "Wouldja please pass the jelleh?"]


== Anime and Manga ==
== Anime and Manga ==
* ''[[Nausicaa of the Valley of the Wind]]'' features the third kind: "Show no mercy to the insolent!"
* ''[[Nausicaa of the Valley of the Wind]]'' features the third kind: "Show no mercy to the insolent!"
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** Wasting food is an ugly thing to do, though. The character also had a very plausible [[Freudian Excuse]] not to want to waste food.
** Wasting food is an ugly thing to do, though. The character also had a very plausible [[Freudian Excuse]] not to want to waste food.
* ''[[Ranma ½]]'': [[Embarrassing First Name|Pantyhose Taro's]] grudge with Happosai. His legitimate (potential) [[One-Winged Angel|grudge (his curse)]] is a [[Red Herring]] to this.
* ''[[Ranma ½]]'': [[Embarrassing First Name|Pantyhose Taro's]] grudge with Happosai. His legitimate (potential) [[One-Winged Angel|grudge (his curse)]] is a [[Red Herring]] to this.


== [[Comic Books]] ==
== [[Comic Books]] ==
* Guess what hyper-fundamentalist comic company fits the first kind. If you said [[Chick Tract|Chick Tracts]], then you get a gold star.
* Guess what hyper-fundamentalist comic company fits the first kind. If you said [[Chick Tract|Chick Tracts]], then you get a gold star.
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'''The Clipper''': Of course Pooky! Pooky is the stigmata of your evil! }}
'''The Clipper''': Of course Pooky! Pooky is the stigmata of your evil! }}
* In ''[[The League of Extraordinary Gentlemen]]'', Hyde eventually reveals what horrible sins that Verse's Dr. Jekyll had seen in himself, that had led him to try to isolate his "evil nature" in the first place. His "heinous crimes"? {{spoiler|Borrowing a book without asking, and feeling sexually attracted to young men without ever acting upon those feelings.}} Of course, [[Deliberate Values Dissonance|the latter was viewed as slightly more heinous in Victorian times than today]], but nevertheless.
* In ''[[The League of Extraordinary Gentlemen]]'', Hyde eventually reveals what horrible sins that Verse's Dr. Jekyll had seen in himself, that had led him to try to isolate his "evil nature" in the first place. His "heinous crimes"? {{spoiler|Borrowing a book without asking, and feeling sexually attracted to young men without ever acting upon those feelings.}} Of course, [[Deliberate Values Dissonance|the latter was viewed as slightly more heinous in Victorian times than today]], but nevertheless.


== Film ==
== Film ==
* ''[[The Big Lebowski]]'', Walter pulls a gun on a fellow bowler for stepping over the line in a league match and refusing to take the penalty. "MARK IT ZERO!"
* ''[[The Big Lebowski]]'', Walter pulls a gun on a fellow bowler for stepping over the line in a league match and refusing to take the penalty. "MARK IT ZERO!"
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* ''[[Follow That Bird]]'': Despite The Sleaze Brothers' real crime through the film was attempting to kidnap Big Bird to put into their circus, they ultimately get punished by officer John Candy for [[Brick Joke|"Stealing an apple from a kid's lunch box."]]
* ''[[Follow That Bird]]'': Despite The Sleaze Brothers' real crime through the film was attempting to kidnap Big Bird to put into their circus, they ultimately get punished by officer John Candy for [[Brick Joke|"Stealing an apple from a kid's lunch box."]]
* ''[[You've Got Mail]]'': While Kathleen and Joe are having a tiff at a dinner party (shortly after small-bookstore owner Kathleen finds out Joe is the part of the corporate Fox Books hierarchy), he nonchantantly scoops some caviar off a dessert plate onto his own. Kathleen is offended by that ("That caviar is a GARNISH!"), prompting Joe to look her in the eye and wordlessly put more caviar on his plate.
* ''[[You've Got Mail]]'': While Kathleen and Joe are having a tiff at a dinner party (shortly after small-bookstore owner Kathleen finds out Joe is the part of the corporate Fox Books hierarchy), he nonchantantly scoops some caviar off a dessert plate onto his own. Kathleen is offended by that ("That caviar is a GARNISH!"), prompting Joe to look her in the eye and wordlessly put more caviar on his plate.


== Literature ==
== Literature ==
* Violet Beauregarde in original ''[[Charlie and the Chocolate Factory]]'' novel. The other "bad" kids were spoiled brat Veruca Salt, gluttonous Augustus Gloop, and Mike Teavee who has become violent from watching too much television. Violet's flaw was [[Arson, Murder, and Jaywalking|chewing gum too much]].
* Violet Beauregarde in original ''[[Charlie and the Chocolate Factory]]'' novel. The other "bad" kids were spoiled brat Veruca Salt, gluttonous Augustus Gloop, and Mike Teavee who has become violent from watching too much television. Violet's flaw was [[Arson, Murder, and Jaywalking|chewing gum too much]].
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{{quote|''I am not a vindictive man, but I felt, as anybody would have felt in my place, that if fellows like young Tuppy are allowed to get away with it the whole fabric of Society and Civilization must inevitably crumble.''}}
{{quote|''I am not a vindictive man, but I felt, as anybody would have felt in my place, that if fellows like young Tuppy are allowed to get away with it the whole fabric of Society and Civilization must inevitably crumble.''}}
* Since ''[[Mommie Dearest]]'' is about growing up with an abusive mother, a lot of the things that set Joan off come off this way, including the infamous wire hanger scene from the film adaptation.
* Since ''[[Mommie Dearest]]'' is about growing up with an abusive mother, a lot of the things that set Joan off come off this way, including the infamous wire hanger scene from the film adaptation.


== [[Live Action TV]] ==
== [[Live Action TV]] ==
* ''[[Monty Python's Flying Circus]]'' did the fourth kind quite a few times, satirizing the way British culture used to encourage the first kind. The page quote comes from their restaurant sketch, combining this with [[My Greatest Failure]].
* ''[[Monty Python's Flying Circus]]'' did the fourth kind quite a few times, satirizing the way British culture used to encourage the first kind. The page quote comes from their restaurant sketch, combining this with [[My Greatest Failure]].
* In the ''[[Seinfeld]]'' episode The Package, Jerry is interrogated by Newman for mail fraud... and let's just say Newman relishes in the thought of catching and fining Jerry, even if there wasn't much actual fraud going on. [[Arson, Murder, and Jaywalking|He still gets fined, though.]]
* In the ''[[Seinfeld]]'' episode The Package, Jerry is interrogated by Newman for mail fraud... and let's just say Newman relishes in the thought of catching and fining Jerry, even if there wasn't much actual fraud going on. [[Arson, Murder, and Jaywalking|He still gets fined, though.]]

* ''[[Deep Space Nine]]''. Captain Sisko hunts down a traitor from his own chain of command. Traitor as in joining the Maquis, a group that attempts to harm only war-mongering Cardassians as policy. Said traitor believes that Sisko is blowing everything out of proportion, and references ''[[Les Misérables]]'' a lot. It's left up to the viewers to decide whether Sisko is truly upholding Federation values as he states, or is just secretly pissed that someone would dare "leave paradise" ([[The Federation]]), as the traitor claims.
* ''[[Deep Space Nine]]''. Captain Sisko hunts down a traitor from his own chain of command. Traitor as in joining the Maquis, a group that attempts to harm only war-mongering Cardassians as policy. Said traitor believes that Sisko is blowing everything out of proportion, and references ''[[Les Misérables]]'' a lot. It's left up to the viewers to decide whether Sisko is truly upholding Federation values as he states, or is just secretly pissed that someone would dare "leave paradise" ([[The Federation]]), as the traitor claims.
** Both deploy chemical weapons against civilians, take from that what you will. (Though the chemical weapons were meant to force populations to permanently evacuate the planets they were living on; they weren't immediately fatal.)
** Both deploy chemical weapons against civilians, take from that what you will. (Though the chemical weapons were meant to force populations to permanently evacuate the planets they were living on; they weren't immediately fatal.)
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* On a couple of episodes of [[Sports Night]], Bobbi Bernstein substitutes for Casey as anchor, which Dan has a problem with, since she claims he slept with her in Spain, and then never called. He swears not only has he never slept with her, he never even knew her back then, he's never been to Spain, and he wouldn't treat a woman like that. Whoever he tells this story to has the same response; "Oh, Dan. You never called?"
* On a couple of episodes of [[Sports Night]], Bobbi Bernstein substitutes for Casey as anchor, which Dan has a problem with, since she claims he slept with her in Spain, and then never called. He swears not only has he never slept with her, he never even knew her back then, he's never been to Spain, and he wouldn't treat a woman like that. Whoever he tells this story to has the same response; "Oh, Dan. You never called?"
** Averted when he finds out that he had been to Spain and slept with Bobbi, he was just so drunk on the trip he forgot about it. Bobbi was also going by Roberta at the time and he didn't connect Bobbi with the name.
** Averted when he finds out that he had been to Spain and slept with Bobbi, he was just so drunk on the trip he forgot about it. Bobbi was also going by Roberta at the time and he didn't connect Bobbi with the name.

== Music ==
== Music ==
* The video to John Waite's "Missing You" uses type 3 because this is about his girlfriend suddenly leaving him for no reason. At one point, he ''breaks a phone booth phone'' out of anger and heartbreak.
* The video to John Waite's "Missing You" uses type 3 because this is about his girlfriend suddenly leaving him for no reason. At one point, he ''breaks a phone booth phone'' out of anger and heartbreak.
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* Trouble on my Mind by Pusha T ft. Tyler, The Creator is about wanting to cause trouble yet has lyrics such as "Let's hit a couple bars and give some bitches wet willies." The music video features the two throwing eggs at random passerby, doing wheelies in a Rascal and trashing a hotel room.
* Trouble on my Mind by Pusha T ft. Tyler, The Creator is about wanting to cause trouble yet has lyrics such as "Let's hit a couple bars and give some bitches wet willies." The music video features the two throwing eggs at random passerby, doing wheelies in a Rascal and trashing a hotel room.
* Psychostick thrives on this, with songs like "I Hate Doing Laundry" and "Don't Eat My Food".
* Psychostick thrives on this, with songs like "I Hate Doing Laundry" and "Don't Eat My Food".


== [[Professional Wrestling]] ==
== [[Professional Wrestling]] ==
* This being a form of show business where [[Popularity Power]] counts for so much, it's really not surprising when this trope shows up in wrestling.
* This being a form of show business where [[Popularity Power]] counts for so much, it's really not surprising when this trope shows up in wrestling.
** It's never more blatant than when the audience boos a [[Evil Foreigner|foreign heel]] ''simply for being foreign''. The heel might not even have had the chance to commit any misdeed yet, or at worst has simply declared his native country to be the greatest in the world [[Double Standard|(something that Americans are saying all the time, and they hardly ever seem to get scolded for it)]]. A good example was French-Canadian wrestler Sylvan Grenier, who in the summer of 2006 became Quebec's "Ambassador to the World" and was forever talking up how great the province of Quebec was. He was certainly annoying, and perhaps a bit [[Faux Affably Evil]], but the American crowds treated everything he said or did as negatively as if it came from King Booker or Mr. Kennedy (two of the biggest heels on ''SmackDown!'' at the time), even if it was morally neutral or an honest mistake. Of course, Sylvan was eventually given some [[Kick the Dog]] characteristics to retroactively justify all this hatred, but the principle still applies.
** It's never more blatant than when the audience boos a [[Evil Foreigner|foreign heel]] ''simply for being foreign''. The heel might not even have had the chance to commit any misdeed yet, or at worst has simply declared his native country to be the greatest in the world [[Double Standard|(something that Americans are saying all the time, and they hardly ever seem to get scolded for it)]]. A good example was French-Canadian wrestler Sylvan Grenier, who in the summer of 2006 became Quebec's "Ambassador to the World" and was forever talking up how great the province of Quebec was. He was certainly annoying, and perhaps a bit [[Faux Affably Evil]], but the American crowds treated everything he said or did as negatively as if it came from King Booker or Mr. Kennedy (two of the biggest heels on ''SmackDown!'' at the time), even if it was morally neutral or an honest mistake. Of course, Sylvan was eventually given some [[Kick the Dog]] characteristics to retroactively justify all this hatred, but the principle still applies.


== Theatre ==
== Theatre ==
* In ''[[The Rise and Fall of the City of Mahagonny]]'', Jimmy's crimes, by increasing severity of the sentences he is handed by the [[Kangaroo Court]], are: indirect murder of a friend (the man who [[Casualty in the Ring|killed him in the ring]] is unknown to the court because he's the prosecutor); breach of the peace; seducing a girl (i.e. a prostitute); singing a subversive song; and not paying for two rounds of whiskey and a broken bar-rail. For this last offense, which the court declares to be the most heinous crime in the world, Jimmy is sentenced to die in the electric chair. It may even be worse than premeditated murder (a crime which the prosecutor bewails using ''exactly the same words''), because one accused of that might have money to [[Screw the Rules, I Have Money|bribe the judge]].
* In ''[[The Rise and Fall of the City of Mahagonny]]'', Jimmy's crimes, by increasing severity of the sentences he is handed by the [[Kangaroo Court]], are: indirect murder of a friend (the man who [[Casualty in the Ring|killed him in the ring]] is unknown to the court because he's the prosecutor); breach of the peace; seducing a girl (i.e. a prostitute); singing a subversive song; and not paying for two rounds of whiskey and a broken bar-rail. For this last offense, which the court declares to be the most heinous crime in the world, Jimmy is sentenced to die in the electric chair. It may even be worse than premeditated murder (a crime which the prosecutor bewails using ''exactly the same words''), because one accused of that might have money to [[Screw the Rules, I Have Money|bribe the judge]].
* In ''[[Zombie Prom]]'', Miss Strict notices that [[New Transfer Student|Jonny Warner]]'s jacket is missing an "h". Jonny explains that he's spelling his name without it now, Miss Strict tells him it's not wise to defile a good Christian name and tells him to put it back in. When he (calmly) tells her he kind of wants to keep the "h" out, she immediately decides that he is a hooligan ("''With'' an "h"!") and the other students are in awe of the "Rebel Without An "H"!", as they see it.
* In ''[[Zombie Prom]]'', Miss Strict notices that [[New Transfer Student|Jonny Warner]]'s jacket is missing an "h". Jonny explains that he's spelling his name without it now, Miss Strict tells him it's not wise to defile a good Christian name and tells him to put it back in. When he (calmly) tells her he kind of wants to keep the "h" out, she immediately decides that he is a hooligan ("''With'' an "h"!") and the other students are in awe of the "Rebel Without An "H"!", as they see it.
* In ''[[The Book of Mormon (theatre)|The Book of Mormon]]'', Elder Price sings about the worst sin he's ever committed, one that's left him haunted by guilt for his entire life: when he was five, he blamed his brother for taking a donut that he actually ate himself. He also thinks that deciding to walk out on his mission in Uganda makes him literally worse than Hitler.
* In ''[[The Book of Mormon (theatre)|The Book of Mormon]]'', Elder Price sings about the worst sin he's ever committed, one that's left him haunted by guilt for his entire life: when he was five, he blamed his brother for taking a donut that he actually ate himself. He also thinks that deciding to walk out on his mission in Uganda makes him literally worse than Hitler.


== [[Video Games]] ==
== [[Video Games]] ==
* ''[[Bangai-O]]'''s [[Excuse Plot]] revolves around the protagonists punishing a gang that smuggles '''fruit'''. ''Bangai-O Spirits'' doesn't even bother with the [[Excuse Plot]], making new players [[Fridge Logic|wonder why destroyed enemies leave behind fruit pickups.]]
* ''[[Bangai-O]]'''s [[Excuse Plot]] revolves around the protagonists punishing a gang that smuggles '''fruit'''. ''Bangai-O Spirits'' doesn't even bother with the [[Excuse Plot]], making new players [[Fridge Logic|wonder why destroyed enemies leave behind fruit pickups.]]
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* In ''[[Mass Effect 3]]'', {{spoiler|the Illusive Man}}'s reaction to seeing Shepard after (s)he storms {{spoiler|the Cerberus base}}.
* In ''[[Mass Effect 3]]'', {{spoiler|the Illusive Man}}'s reaction to seeing Shepard after (s)he storms {{spoiler|the Cerberus base}}.
{{quote|{{spoiler|'''The Illusive Man'''}}: Shepard. ''You're in my chair.''}}
{{quote|{{spoiler|'''The Illusive Man'''}}: Shepard. ''You're in my chair.''}}


== [[Web Comics]] ==
== [[Web Comics]] ==
* ''[[The Adventures of Dr. McNinja]]'': ''[http://drmcninja.com/page.php?pageNum=7&issue=15 King Radical is subverting our country's rich history for his own devious purposes!]''
* ''[[The Adventures of Dr. McNinja]]'': ''[http://drmcninja.com/page.php?pageNum=7&issue=15 King Radical is subverting our country's rich history for his own devious purposes!]''
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** In the [[Ultimate Universe|Comprehensive Universe]], Imaki behaves slightly more realistically. Her one night's stand with Jack is ignored, however. And Candi ends up having on-and-off sex with Donte a lot less often.
** In the [[Ultimate Universe|Comprehensive Universe]], Imaki behaves slightly more realistically. Her one night's stand with Jack is ignored, however. And Candi ends up having on-and-off sex with Donte a lot less often.
* ''Edmund Finney's Quest'' quadruply does not subvert this [http://eqcomics.com/2011/09/02/an-arrest/ here]. (The "fake bomb threat" was part of a [[Monty Python|Four Yorkshiremen]] argument and, of course, was neither a fake bomb threat nor a real one.)
* ''Edmund Finney's Quest'' quadruply does not subvert this [http://eqcomics.com/2011/09/02/an-arrest/ here]. (The "fake bomb threat" was part of a [[Monty Python|Four Yorkshiremen]] argument and, of course, was neither a fake bomb threat nor a real one.)


== [[Web Original]] ==
== [[Web Original]] ==
* Episode 4 of [[Chobits Abridged]] has this. Loitering is so heinous, the police pull and cock their guns just to be sure.
* Episode 4 of [[Chobits Abridged]] has this. Loitering is so heinous, the police pull and cock their guns just to be sure.
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{{quote|Some people considered them “cute”, he understood. There were even dolls and some dreadful Disney cartoon. He gazed at an animal face with outsized human eyes, a skull bloated to hold a man-sized brain, a foreshortened muzzle which somehow twisted itself to mimic human speech (he had been told that he would find Equestria full of English-speakers: very few humans could duplicate the whinnying local speech), and forelimbs that looked like tapering cones of hairy flesh until they bent with, again, that blasphemous plasticity…and he was to entrust his life to things like this one?}}
{{quote|Some people considered them “cute”, he understood. There were even dolls and some dreadful Disney cartoon. He gazed at an animal face with outsized human eyes, a skull bloated to hold a man-sized brain, a foreshortened muzzle which somehow twisted itself to mimic human speech (he had been told that he would find Equestria full of English-speakers: very few humans could duplicate the whinnying local speech), and forelimbs that looked like tapering cones of hairy flesh until they bent with, again, that blasphemous plasticity…and he was to entrust his life to things like this one?}}
* In ''[[Mega Man Dies at the End]]'', [[Bomberman]] ([[Name's the Same|not]] [[Mega Man (video game)|Bomb Man]]) is a psychopath with a fondness for [[Stuff Blowing Up]], yet people seem most upset at the fact that he uses the metric system.
* In ''[[Mega Man Dies at the End]]'', [[Bomberman]] ([[Name's the Same|not]] [[Mega Man (video game)|Bomb Man]]) is a psychopath with a fondness for [[Stuff Blowing Up]], yet people seem most upset at the fact that he uses the metric system.


== [[Western Animation]] ==
== [[Western Animation]] ==
* Fish slapping, from the ''[[Veggie Tales]]'' film Jonah. Justified in that it's all a story being told by the modern day Pirates, and saying what the ''real'' Assyrians did would be inappropriate for their young audience.
* Fish slapping, from the ''[[Veggie Tales]]'' film Jonah. Justified in that it's all a story being told by the modern day Pirates, and saying what the ''real'' Assyrians did would be inappropriate for their young audience.
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Cabbage Merchant: "[[Off with His Head|Off with their heads!]] One for each head of cabbage!" }}
Cabbage Merchant: "[[Off with His Head|Off with their heads!]] One for each head of cabbage!" }}
** Somewhat justified, since this is this poor guy's business. But he seems to be able to replenish his supply for the next time his cabbage stand gets destroyed.
** Somewhat justified, since this is this poor guy's business. But he seems to be able to replenish his supply for the next time his cabbage stand gets destroyed.


== [[Real Life]] ==
== [[Real Life]] ==
* [[Grammar Nazi]]: HEIL SPELLCHECK!
* [[Grammar Nazi]]: HEIL SPELLCHECK!