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== Tabletop Games ==
== Tabletop Games ==
* Hey look, it's a walking lion! He's brave, loyal and kind! [[Warhammer 40000|Shoot the everloving fuck outta him!]] -gunfire noises-
* Hey look, it's a walking lion! He's brave, loyal and kind! [[Warhammer 40,000|Shoot the everloving fuck outta him!]] -gunfire noises-
** To be fair, shooting the everloving fuck out of anything is the first rule of survival in that game.
** To be fair, shooting the everloving fuck out of anything is the first rule of survival in that game.
* ''[[Exalted]]'' subverts this with the various varieties of Beastmen. Most of them tend to be violent barbarians who run around pillaging, raping, and occasionally eating the humans they come across. Most notable in this category are the Wolfmen of the North and Raksi's baby-eating Apemen. However, the Hawkmen and Snakemen of Halta and the [[Our Mermaids Are Different|Sharkmen and Squidmen]] of Luthe are perfectly civilized people. Granted, however, that the little sharkgirl in the comic preceding the Luthe chapter of ''Compass of Terrestrial Directions: West'' was quite adorable.
* ''[[Exalted]]'' subverts this with the various varieties of Beastmen. Most of them tend to be violent barbarians who run around pillaging, raping, and occasionally eating the humans they come across. Most notable in this category are the Wolfmen of the North and Raksi's baby-eating Apemen. However, the Hawkmen and Snakemen of Halta and the [[Our Mermaids Are Different|Sharkmen and Squidmen]] of Luthe are perfectly civilized people. Granted, however, that the little sharkgirl in the comic preceding the Luthe chapter of ''Compass of Terrestrial Directions: West'' was quite adorable.
* ''[[Dungeons and Dragons]]'' does this quite a bit.
* ''[[Dungeons & Dragons]]'' does this quite a bit.
** Werewolves and wererats are [[Exclusively Evil]] and Always [[Lawful Evil]] respectively (despite ''both'' original animal being very pack-minded) while werebears are ''Always Lawful Good'' and werecats are always neutral.
** Werewolves and wererats are [[Exclusively Evil]] and Always [[Lawful Evil]] respectively (despite ''both'' original animal being very pack-minded) while werebears are ''Always Lawful Good'' and werecats are always neutral.
** Then there are anthromorphic Hyenas, also known as gnolls, which are...well...they have a penchant for enslaving other humanoids, and that's when they're not ''eating'' them (and they have a knack for eating their slaves sooner or later.) Gnolls just do it because they're sadistic - the Monster Manual outright states that "they enjoy intelligent prey because they scream more."
** Then there are anthromorphic Hyenas, also known as gnolls, which are...well...they have a penchant for enslaving other humanoids, and that's when they're not ''eating'' them (and they have a knack for eating their slaves sooner or later.) Gnolls just do it because they're sadistic - the Monster Manual outright states that "they enjoy intelligent prey because they scream more."
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** ''[[Mario & Luigi: Bowser's Inside Story|Mario and Luigi: Bowser's Inside Story]]'' averts the trend with the Goombas with the Chuboomba, which is chubby, has a lollipop, is generally considered cute by the fandom, and is still an enemy in the game.
** ''[[Mario & Luigi: Bowser's Inside Story|Mario and Luigi: Bowser's Inside Story]]'' averts the trend with the Goombas with the Chuboomba, which is chubby, has a lollipop, is generally considered cute by the fandom, and is still an enemy in the game.
*** See [[Fat Bastard]].
*** See [[Fat Bastard]].
** The ''[[New Super Mario Bros]].'' series averts this trope. Those cute Koopas? Who [http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=s03Kco-XQCY dance to the BGM]? You're still allowed, still ''encouraged'', to stomp on them mercilessly and use their shells as a weapon.
** The ''[[New Super Mario Bros.]].'' series averts this trope. Those cute Koopas? Who [http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=s03Kco-XQCY dance to the BGM]? You're still allowed, still ''encouraged'', to stomp on them mercilessly and use their shells as a weapon.
* Both played with and subverted in ''[[World of Warcraft]]''. On the one hand, the more [[What Measure Is a Non-Human?|humanoid]], pleasant-looking races form the Alliance, who are [[Black and Grey Morality|usually framed as]] the more protagonistic faction. But on the other hand, the fierce, alien and sometimes downright ugly races of the Horde are playable characters and are also sometimes portrayed in a positive light, just as the Alliance races can be malicious. ([[Humans Are the Real Monsters|Particularly humans.]])
* Both played with and subverted in ''[[World of Warcraft]]''. On the one hand, the more [[What Measure Is a Non-Human?|humanoid]], pleasant-looking races form the Alliance, who are [[Black and Grey Morality|usually framed as]] the more protagonistic faction. But on the other hand, the fierce, alien and sometimes downright ugly races of the Horde are playable characters and are also sometimes portrayed in a positive light, just as the Alliance races can be malicious. ([[Humans Are the Real Monsters|Particularly humans.]])
** The Tauren are a very good example; aligned with the Horde faction, they can be easily described as 800 pound bipedal cows. Naturally, they gain a health boost as a racial ability, being extremely tall and muscular. And they are, surprisingly, extremely peaceful most of the time.
** The Tauren are a very good example; aligned with the Horde faction, they can be easily described as 800 pound bipedal cows. Naturally, they gain a health boost as a racial ability, being extremely tall and muscular. And they are, surprisingly, extremely peaceful most of the time.
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** Of course the minions are [[Ugly Cute]].
** Of course the minions are [[Ugly Cute]].
{{quote|'''Gnarl:''' This is why nature doesn't work by survival of the fluffiest, sire. They're just too stupid!}}
{{quote|'''Gnarl:''' This is why nature doesn't work by survival of the fluffiest, sire. They're just too stupid!}}
* For Muppy of ''[[Mana Khemia Alchemists of Al Revis]]'', apparently ''anyone'' who he/she/it comes into contact with (barring [[Only Sane Man|Nikki]]) couldn't see past his cute, [[Pokémon]]-like appearance to realize that he's actually a ''selfish jerk bent on taking over the world''.
* For Muppy of ''[[Mana Khemia: Alchemists of Al-Revis]]'', apparently ''anyone'' who he/she/it comes into contact with (barring [[Only Sane Man|Nikki]]) couldn't see past his cute, [[Pokémon]]-like appearance to realize that he's actually a ''selfish jerk bent on taking over the world''.
* ''[[Hello Kitty]] Online'' is weird about this. Being based on Sanrio characters, absolutely ''everything'' is cute, but the friendly NPCs include some stuff that would be considered decidedly "non-cute" without the Sanrio treatment—the preview Flash game, ''Island of Fun'' includes a friendly tyrannosaur, octopus, and fish-man.
* ''[[Hello Kitty]] Online'' is weird about this. Being based on Sanrio characters, absolutely ''everything'' is cute, but the friendly NPCs include some stuff that would be considered decidedly "non-cute" without the Sanrio treatment—the preview Flash game, ''Island of Fun'' includes a friendly tyrannosaur, octopus, and fish-man.
* The [[Mascot]]s of ''[[Tokimeki Memorial]] 1'' (the Koala) and ''2'' (Kero the frog and Gray the alien). Aside from Kero, which arguably goes more on the cute side, it's hard to tell if they're cute or ugly/evil-looking. To push it further, in the case of the Koala who's proved as a mean-spirited fellow, at least two characters hates its guts (Yuina and Naomi), but it's ''loved'' by Miharu (who even puts [[Anime Hair|her hair in koala-ears shape]]) and [[Friend to All Living Things|Megumi]]. And as far as Kero goes, [[Sibling Yin-Yang|the twin sisters Shirayuki]] [[Different As Night and Day|have radically different opinions about him]]: [[The Ingenue|sweet ingenue Miho]] ''loves'' him, while [[Genki Girl|playful and mischievous Maho]] ''loathes'' it.
* The [[Mascot]]s of ''[[Tokimeki Memorial]] 1'' (the Koala) and ''2'' (Kero the frog and Gray the alien). Aside from Kero, which arguably goes more on the cute side, it's hard to tell if they're cute or ugly/evil-looking. To push it further, in the case of the Koala who's proved as a mean-spirited fellow, at least two characters hates its guts (Yuina and Naomi), but it's ''loved'' by Miharu (who even puts [[Anime Hair|her hair in koala-ears shape]]) and [[Friend to All Living Things|Megumi]]. And as far as Kero goes, [[Sibling Yin-Yang|the twin sisters Shirayuki]] [[Different As Night and Day|have radically different opinions about him]]: [[The Ingenue|sweet ingenue Miho]] ''loves'' him, while [[Genki Girl|playful and mischievous Maho]] ''loathes'' it.
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* Australian Cane Toads. They are a pest that is a threat to native wildlife. They're not the only introduced species there is...but they're probably are the only one that people like to play golf with or deliberately run over with their cars. Kittens? Rabbits? Not so much.
* Australian Cane Toads. They are a pest that is a threat to native wildlife. They're not the only introduced species there is...but they're probably are the only one that people like to play golf with or deliberately run over with their cars. Kittens? Rabbits? Not so much.
* In China, St. Bernard dogs are raised for food. Of course, there is an [http://www.snopes.com/inboxer/petition/bernard.asp email chain] to stop this abhorrent practice.
* In China, St. Bernard dogs are raised for food. Of course, there is an [http://www.snopes.com/inboxer/petition/bernard.asp email chain] to stop this abhorrent practice.
* There has apparently been talk about banning goldfish as pets in San Francisco due to them often being bred in unethical conditions or something along those lines. Whether you agree with the ban or not, you have to admit that the people's reactions have been telling of this trope. The worst comments claimed that they can't even feel pain, which has been scientifically proven wrong (and even if it wasn't, you'd think the benefit of the doubt would go towards supposing that they can, to avoid possibly causing pain). Goldfish are generally often treated badly, for example kept in far too small bowls, again probably due to this trope. It's all too hard to make people understand that not only do they in fact have longer memories than 3 seconds (as busted by the [[Myth Busters]], among others), they are actually rather smart and can learn tricks and ''even recognize humans by voice''.
* There has apparently been talk about banning goldfish as pets in San Francisco due to them often being bred in unethical conditions or something along those lines. Whether you agree with the ban or not, you have to admit that the people's reactions have been telling of this trope. The worst comments claimed that they can't even feel pain, which has been scientifically proven wrong (and even if it wasn't, you'd think the benefit of the doubt would go towards supposing that they can, to avoid possibly causing pain). Goldfish are generally often treated badly, for example kept in far too small bowls, again probably due to this trope. It's all too hard to make people understand that not only do they in fact have longer memories than 3 seconds (as busted by the [[MythBusters]], among others), they are actually rather smart and can learn tricks and ''even recognize humans by voice''.
* Another fish example are the species of tuna, many of which are being overfished into extinction. Meanwhile, what the general public worries about is that dolphins might be harmed as a side effect of tuna fishing.
* Another fish example are the species of tuna, many of which are being overfished into extinction. Meanwhile, what the general public worries about is that dolphins might be harmed as a side effect of tuna fishing.
* In Conservation Biology, this trope is called a [[wikipedia:Flagship species|"Flagship species"]] or an [[wikipedia:Umbrella species|"Umbrella species"]].
* In Conservation Biology, this trope is called a [[wikipedia:Flagship species|"Flagship species"]] or an [[wikipedia:Umbrella species|"Umbrella species"]].
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