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** Another 2000AD comic, ''Invasion!'' and its sequel, ''Savage'', feature the Volgans, a far-right Russian regime. Originally intended to be played by the Soviet Union, [[Executive Meddling|Editorial Meddling]] forced the creators to use a generically authoritarian [[Ruritania]]n [[Expy]] so as not to aggravate officials at the Soviet embassy during a period of fragile détente. They were later explicitly revealed to be Russian.
*** Likewise, the enemy Norts from ''Rogue Trooper'' show quite a number of Nazi characteristics.
** The Norsefire Party werein closer''[[V tofor aVendetta]]'' logicalIS (ifthe Nazi party, and more specifically conceived as the (extreme) extensionlogical conclusion of right-wing tendencies in late 1980s Britain; they're a decidedly unsubtle [[Expy]] of the National Front with some level-grinding in competence. That Norsefire are essentially the Nazi Party ''and still'' recognisably a heartbeat away from the government of the time is part of what makes ''[[V for Vendetta]]'' so chilling.
* The Norsefire Party in ''[[V for Vendetta]]'' IS the Nazi Party (if it was late 1990's Britain).
*** The head honcho Leader Adam Susan, in an introspective moment before the beginning of his slide into true madness, outright confirms to himself he is fascist, both by the historic and the Nazi definition. In his own mental phrasing (and Norsefire doctrine, no doubt), the war "put paid to freedom".
** The Norsefire Party were closer to a logical (if extreme) extension of right-wing tendencies in late 1980s Britain; they're a decidedly unsubtle [[Expy]] of the National Front with some level-grinding in competence. That Norsefire are essentially the Nazi Party ''and still'' recognisably a heartbeat away from the government of the time is part of what makes ''[[V for Vendetta]]'' so chilling.
*** It should be noted that Norsefire are an implicitly neo-Nazi organisation, and so the parallels are conscious decisions by Norsefire itself. Unlike most entries on this page, Norsefire consciously emulate Nazi Germany.
*** The head honcho Leader Adam Susan, in an introspective moment before the beginning of his slide into true madness, outright confirms to himself he is fascist, both by the historic and the Nazi definition. In his own mental phrasing (and Norsefire doctrine, no doubt), the war "put paid to freedom".
** HYDRA from [[Marvel]] probably fall here. Somewhat like Norsefire above, HYDRA started off as an actual Nazi organisation during World War II which became independent when the actual Nazis, well, ''lost''. When your founders are Nazis, it's no stretch that your organisation end up Nazi-like.
*** It should be noted that Norsefire are an implicitly neo-Nazi organisation, and so the parallels are conscious decisions by Norsefire itself. Unlike most entries on this page, Norsefire consciously emulate Nazi Germany.
** In the Fifth Sleeper story, the [[Red Skull]] tells [[Captain America (comics)|Captain America]] that HYDRA was always a front for "the true force supreme, NAZIISM!" (His words, not mine.) It says a lot for how hated the Nazis are that HYDRA is, by comparison, a [[Slave to PR]].
* HYDRA from Marvel probably fall here.
** Somewhat like Norsefire above, HYDRA started off as an actual Nazi organisation during World War II which became independent when the actual Nazis, well, ''lost''. When your founders are Nazis it's no stretch that your organisation end up Nazi-like.
** In the Fifth Sleeper story, the [[Red Skull]] tells [[Captain America (comics)]] that HYDRA was always a front for "the true force supreme, NAZIISM!" (His words, not mine.) It says a lot for how hated the Nazis are that HYDRA is, by comparison, a [[Slave to PR]].
* In the Archie ''[[Archies Sonic the Hedgehog|Sonic The Hedgehog]]'' series, Angel Island was occupied for a time by the [[Big Bad|Dr. Eggman]]-backed Dingo Regime, whose soldiers not only wore Brown Shirt-esque uniforms, but who imprisoned all captured Echidnas in what were clearly concentration camps.
* Bob Heller, one of the presidential candidates in ''[[Transmetropolitan]]'', whose rhetoric is equal parts [[The Strong Should Dominate the Weak]] and [[Patriotic Fervor]]. His campaign insignia is a black "H" in a white circle on a field of red, and other characters openly compare him to the Nazis and his campaign events to the Nuremberg rallies. (Just how much of a [[Crapsack World]] is ''Transmetropolitan''? Not only is Heller not the most evil candidate in the race, he's not even the most evil candidate ''in his party''.)
 
== Film ==
* The government in ''[[V for Vendetta (film)|the film adaptation of ''V for Vendetta]]'']] is very Nazi-like. Also, much like the original Norsefire. The leader's name, is also changed to "Adam Sutler", which sounds too similar to "Adolf Hitler" to have been a coincidence, especially when you consider that in the comic the film was based on (see above), his name was "Susan."
* Since the movie ''[[Starship Troopers (film)|Starship Troopers]]'' is a satire of the gung-ho jingoism of the novel, they use the Nazi-like symbolism to portray the humans as an [[Humans Are the Real Monsters|evil invading race]] by [[Putting on the Reich]], and occasionally showing a propaganda commercial. This is capped by [[Neil Patrick Harris]] (at the time, best known for ''[[Doogie Howser, M.D.]]'') as a Dr. Mengele [[Expy]]. One [[Wild Mass Guessing|fan theory]] is that the humans faked the asteroid attack to justify the invasion. Either that, or used the opportunity provided by the otherwise natural asteroid strike to start a war. In any case, it's never shown how the Arachnids could have deliberately launched the asteroid.
** In the comic book, he doesn't even pretend to not be fascist.
* Since the movie ''[[Starship Troopers (film)|Starship Troopers]]'' is a satire of the gung-ho jingoism of the novel, they use the Nazi-like symbolism to portray the humans as an [[Humans Are the Real Monsters|evil invading race]] by [[Putting on the Reich]], and occasionally showing a propaganda commercial. This is capped by [[Neil Patrick Harris]] (at the time, best known for ''[[Doogie Howser, M.D.]]'') as a Dr. Mengele [[Expy]]. One [[Wild Mass Guessing|fan theory]] is that the humans faked the asteroid attack to justify the invasion. Either that, or used the opportunity provided by the otherwise natural asteroid strike to start a war. In any case it's never shown how the Arachnids could have deliberately launched the asteroid.
* The ''[[Lion King]]'' gives us the song ''[http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=L0AiN8vrn9Y Be Prepared]'', in which Scar rallies the Hyenas into setting up a new age in Pride Rock, ruled by Scar and the Hyenas. The Nazi Symbolism is quite clear during a sequence when the Hyenas goose step (the most evilest march ever) by Scar. The scene is directly inspired by ''[[Triumph of the Will]]''.
** This makes the song especially chilling if you watch it in either Hebrew or [http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ASEQScFZd_I German].
* The 1940 [[Charlie Chaplin]] film ''[[The Great Dictator]]'' is about a thinly-veiled parody of the Nazi regime, whose leader is named Adenoid Hynkel and whose symbol is the Double Cross. The location is translated from Germany to the [[Ruritania|fictional country]] of Tomania; the anti-Semitism is left undisguised.
* In [[The Avengers (film)|Marvel's ''The Avengers'']], Loki is prone to [[Putting on the Reich]], and performs a 'you were born to be ruled speech' and one old German calls him out in a [[Badass Bystander]] moment when he says to kneel.
{{quote|'''Old German''': I will not bow to a man like you.
'''Loki''': There are no [[A God Am I|men like me.]]
'''Old German''': There are [[Adolf Hitler|always men like you.]] }}
* This was predated, surprisingly, by [[The Three Stooges]] short ''You Nazty Spy!'' (which came out a few months earlier) withhas Moe as Hailstone, leader of Moronica and Larry and Curly standing in for Goebbels and Goering respectively. It also spawned a sequel, ''I'll Never Heil Again.'' Especially noteworthy is that the Stooges were Jewish in [[Real Life]].
** "Quit yer Stalin!"
* In ''[[Star Wars]]'', particularly the [[Expanded Universe]], it's definitely possible to see [[The Empire]] as Nazilike. It's not just the cut of the officers' uniforms (and Grand Moff Tarkin definitely acts the part of a Nazi official), or the fact that its [[Faceless Goons]] are called "stormtroopers". The Empire is also strictly, stridently [[Fantastic Racism|speciesist]], always putting humans before nonhumans, to the point where the nonhumans on the capital planet are restricted to a single sector. And it rose when a charismatic leader talked his way into a high position in a democratic government, created problems, then refused to let go.
*** With [[The Three Stooges]] being Jews in [[Real Life]].
* In ''[[Star Wars]]'', particularly the [[Expanded Universe]], it's definitely possible to see [[The Empire]] as Nazilike. It's not just the cut of the officers' uniforms (and Grand Moff Tarkin definitely acts the part of a Nazi official) or the fact that its [[Faceless Goons]] are called "stormtroopers". The Empire is also strictly, stridently [[Fantastic Racism|speciesist]], always putting humans before nonhumans, to the point where the nonhumans on the capital planet are restricted to a single sector. And it rose when a charismatic leader talked his way into a high position in a democratic government, created problems, then refused to let go.
** Not to mention him gaining power by first becoming Chancellor.
** Rather ironically, a ''Rebel'' ceremony at the end of the original film is clearly modeled on ''Triumph of the Will''.