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{{trope}}
{{quote|''"The man who is to be great is the one who can be the most solitary, the most hidden, the most deviant, the man beyond good and evil, lord of his virtues, a man lavishly endowed with will - this is precisely what greatness is to be called: it is able to be as much a totality as something multi-faceted, as wide as it is full."''|'''[[Friedrich Nietzsche]]'''}}
|'''[[Friedrich Nietzsche]]'''}}
 
A character declares that he or his objectives are more valuable than meaningless considerations about good and evil. Such distinctions are for slaves and lesser beings, not for him. He often terms them [[Good Is Old-Fashioned|antiquated]] or [[Silly Rabbit, Idealism Is for Kids|childish]]. He may go on to question [[What Is Evil?]]
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== [[Anime]] and [[Manga]] ==
* Huey Laforet from ''[[Baccano!]]'' is this trope via his several -hundred -year [[For Science!]] ambition. Everyone and everything in this world, including his own daughter, is nothing more than components of a grand experiment- ethics be damned. Even amongst his peers he is considered the creepiest of the lot. Go look at the show's and character entries to see [[Fridge Horror|just what that means.]]
* The Lord of Nightmares from the ''[[Slayers]]'' continuity is Above Good and Evil, and creator of both. She represents the primal chaos from which all things emerge, and can side with creation just as easily as with destruction. Most people are only aware of her destructive side, and consider her the Dark Lord above the Dark Lords.
* ''[[Medaka Box]]'': {{spoiler|Ajimu, who as almost 13 quadrillion super powers}} is basically this, and states that life, death, love, hate, etc. is meaningless garbage. {{spoiler|This is because she is under the delusion that ''everything'' is fake.}}
* A rare heroic example is Touma, the main character from ''[[ToA AruCertain Majutsu noMagical Index]]'' who considers good and evil to be mere shackles, and just does whatever he feels is right at the time. In the World War 3 arc he tells Accelerator that his thoughts that he is a villain are just holding him back.
* Sousuke Aizen from ''[[Bleach]]'' uses this to justify his depraved actions, claiming that distinctions of good and evil would merely limit his potential.
 
 
== [[Comic Books]] ==
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* ''[[New Gods]]'': [[Darkseid]].
* [[Word of God|Word of]] [[Geoff Johns]] says that [[Blackest Night|Nekron]] was intended to be this. Given that he spends most of his panel-time committing atrocity after atrocity, culminating in {{spoiler|putting people's minds in an [[And I Must Scream]] state [[Forced to Watch]] as their now-undead bodies mindlessly slaughter their friends}}, fans tend to [[Complete Monster|disagree]].
 
 
== [[Film]] ==
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* In ''[[Dungeon Siege|In the Name of the King: A Dungeon Siege Tale]]'', the [[Evil Sorcerer]] Gallian tries to destroy the Kingdom of Ehb in order to usher in a [[New World Order]]. When someone points out that he could show his merciful side by releasing the prisoners, he explains in a [[Large Ham]] way that he's beyond such petty concepts as Mercy, Good, or Evil. After he takes over, Good will be redefined in terms of power (i.e. the more the better). He is also insane, which he doesn't try to hide.
* In ''[[Film/Thirst|Thirst]]'', {{spoiler|Tae-ju}} takes this attitude to vampirism, comparing a vampire killing a human to a fox killing a chicken.
 
 
== [[Literature]] ==
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* In [[John C. Wright]]'s ''[[Hermetic Millenium|Count to a Trillion]]'', Menelaus asks whether they are going to teach post-humans morals, and gets the answer that they would be above it—it would make no more sense than preaching monogamy to bees or veganitarism to lions.
 
== [[Live -Action TV]] ==
 
== [[Live Action TV]] ==
* ''[[Charmed]]'' had a group called Avatars with this philosophy. They are actually closer to the [[True Neutral]] variety, though.
* In ''[[Doctor Who]]'', John Lumic justifies his illegal {{spoiler|creation of the Cybermen}} with "I am governed by greater laws, old friend. The right of a man to survive."
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I am serving Fire alone,
Not the bliss and not the pain now. }}
 
 
== [[Video Games]] ==
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* Though labeled an "evil" character ("dark" is more apt), ''[[Street Fighter]]'''s Akuma does not believe there is any merit in tagging one's self as 'good' or 'evil'. His ultimate goal is simply to be the most perfect example of a warrior, and that means anyone who has the might to stand against him will not be spared his full power, regardless of where they are morally.
 
== Web Comics ==
 
== Webcomics ==
* ''[[Bob and George]]'': [http://www.bobandgeorge.com/archives/020723 After he blows up the fortress]
{{quote|'''George''': Uh -- is that a good thing or a bad thing?
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* [[Assassin's Creed|Alt]][[Memetic Badass|air]], according to the Grand Unifying Guesses: "(Altair) serves a higher power now. One that transcends the notions of race, gender and any concept of good and evil."
* In ''[[Atop the Fourth Wall]]'', the [[Eldritch Abomination|Entity]] {{spoiler|aka [[The Missingno|Missingno]],}} is directly stated- by the protagonist, no less- to be a being beyond good and evil.
 
 
== [[Western Animation]] ==