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See also [[Viewer Gender Confusion]], something which invoking this trope may cause to persist even if the character does get a [[Gender Reveal]].
 
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== Anime and Manga ==
* Helba from ''[[.hack]]''; it's unknown if Helba's Player is a guy or a girl.
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* Edward in ''[[Cowboy Bebop]]'' is introduced like this. Male name, lanky but with prepubescent features, typically dresses in a baggy white shirt and biker shorts (when in a dress, the effect is... ''sort of'' like drag). Regardless of attire, characters are often visibly confused, as Ed's [[Cloudcuckoolander|behavior]] and voice reveal only childlike androgyny. In Ed's introductory episode, the ambiguity is resolved in the very last line, as we cut to an external shot of the ship while Faye wrestles with her:
{{quote|"Hey, you're a '''girl'''?!"}}
*:* Edward herself confirms her gender in [[The Movie]]
* Envy from ''[[Fullmetal Alchemist (manga)|Fullmetal Alchemist]]''. While the gender is eventually revealed in the [[Fullmetal Alchemist (anime)|2003 anime]] ({{spoiler|in which he was originally male}}), and turns out to [[No Biological Sex|not be really applicable in the manga]], Envy's androgynous 'normal' appearance, and being a [[Shape Shifter]], left it ambiguous for quite some time.
* Otto during ''[[Magical Girl Lyrical Nanoha StrikerS]]''. As revealed in the [[Comic Book Adaptation|supplementary manga]], even most of her fellow [[Quirky Miniboss Squad|Numbers]] were unsure if Otto was a male or a female, with the few who knew being told to keep quiet about it by [[Smug Snake|Quattro]]. Eventually revealed to be female, though Seven Arcs continues to play up her ambiguous gender by, for example, excluding her from the Numbers' [[Fan Service]] [[The Merch|posters]].
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{{quote|'''Fans''': Is NZ a boy or a girl?
'''NZ''': Which do you think I am? :D }}
* ''[[Wandering Son]]'' has this with a few characters due to the manga's relation to transgenderism. Makoto is typically seen as a [[Camp Gay]] [[Wholesome Crossdresser]] rather thenthan [[transgender]], though there's room for debate. Takatsuki had some mixed reactions with people due to her shyness, but it's been confirmed she's a trans boy.
* In ''[[Black Lagoon]]'' It's impossible to tell which one of Hansel and Gretel is a boy and which is the girl as they change appearances for the heck of it. It is also speculated that they were both the same gender, which one is anyone's guess.
* In ''[[07-Ghost]]'', Kuroyuri's gender has yet to be revealed. Even the other characters don't know, in which Kuroyuri will even threaten them to death whenever they ask.
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* People are STILL debating the genders of some of the appliances (especially Toaster) from [[The Brave Little Toaster]]
* [[The Lord of the Rings (film)|Gimli]] on dwarf women:
{{quote|'''Gimili:''' It's true you don't see many dwarf women. And in fact, they are so alike in voice and appearance that they're often mistaken for dwarf men.
'''Aragorn:''' It's the beards.
'''Gimili:''' This in turn has given rise to the belief that there ''are'' no dwarf women and that dwarves just spring out of holes in the ground, which is of course ridiculous."}}
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'''Hodgins & Sweets''': I dunno.
''(later)'' {{spoiler|'''Angela''': [[Unsettling Gender Reveal|It moved, he's a guy.]]}} }}
*:* Some fans have theorized that {{spoiler|Angela lied because she had thought Dr. Tanaka was male and didn't want the others to know she was wrong}}. It doesn't help that {{spoiler|Dr. Tanaka is actually played by a woman}}.
* In the original ''[[Star Trek: The Original Series]]'' pilot episode "The Cage", the alien Talosians were played by actresses in heavy alien makeup, but their speech was dubbed over with male voices. The incongruity between their facial features and voices was intended to emphasize their alienness.
** Next Gen: Riker dated a hermaphrodite once. The hermaphrodite was being ostracised from her species' society for acting slightly like a woman instead of carefully maintaining gender ambiguous behaviour. It was [[An Aesop]] about how [[Transgender]] people should be accepted as whatever gender they identify as, even if that gender is ambiguous, but with "the masses" portrayed as being ambiguous rather than divided into two definite genders.
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* [[Pink Floyd]]'s David Gilmour came across as pretty androgynous at times. [http://img52.imageshack.us/img52/4357/davidgilmour.jpg Observe.] (A friend of mine actually mistook him for a woman in that photograph; this is very notable in that she is a diehard Floyd fan who has a more-than-decent grasp on what each band member looks/looked like.)
* Annie Lennox from the Eurythmics got some heat over looking a little more masculine than some would prefer.
 
== Newspaper Comics ==
* The title character of ''[[Krazy Kat]]'' seemed to have whatever gender was most appropriate to the current situation, given the surreal tone of the comic. Creator George Herriman stated that Krazy was "androgynous, but willing to be either". The version in the short lived animated adaptation (from 1961 - 1962) was definitely female.
* [[Played for Laughs]] in one of the later ''[[Peanuts]]'' strips, the day after Halloween, where Charlie Brown, Lucy, and Linus were talking:
{{quote|'''Charlie Brown:''' Well, the Great Pumpkin didn't show up again.
'''Lucy:''' No, she didn't, did she?
''(Big [[Oh Crap]] look from Linus)''
'''Lucy''' ''(With a smug smirk)'': Never occurred to you, did it?}}
 
== Religion ==
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== Tabletop Games ==
* In ''[[Unknown Armies]]'', any avatar of the Mystic Hermaphrodite plays this role to the hilt.; Particularlyparticularly powerful avatars are even able to switch their physical gender daily, making the question unanswerable. The Freak, godwalker of the Mystic Hermaphrodite, is ata theprime pointexample whereof neitherthis he nor she isto the right word - andpoint indeedthat no one seems to know which gender itthey ''used'' to be, if either. The novel ''Godwalker'' reveals {{spoiler|they used to be female}}.
* The [[Exclusively Evil|Chaos gods]] Slaanesh and Tzeentch in ''[[Warhammer Fantasy Battle]]'' and ''[[Warhammer 40,000]]''. Though the other two major Chaos gods (Khorne and Nurgle) are identified as male, Slaanesh is referred to (among its [[I Have Many Names|many names]]) as both "She Who Thirsts" and "the Prince of Excess" and is explicitly hermaphroditic in nature, while Tzeentch is so [[Gambitfluid Pileup|utterlyin incomprehensible]]form itas mightto asrender wellthe bequestion fiftymoot gendersand atis thecalled a "he" to keep samethings timesimple.
** The novel Godwalker reveals {{spoiler|it used to be female}}.
* The [[Exclusively Evil|Chaos gods]] Slaanesh and Tzeentch in ''[[Warhammer Fantasy Battle]]'' and ''[[Warhammer 40,000]]''. Though the other two major Chaos gods (Khorne and Nurgle) are identified as male, Slaanesh is referred to (among its [[I Have Many Names|many names]]) as both "She Who Thirsts" and "the Prince of Excess", while Tzeentch is so [[Gambit Pileup|utterly incomprehensible]] it might as well be fifty genders at the same time.
** Slaanesh is both and neither at the same time, Tzeentch, well he's normaly a cloud of colors and is called a "he" to keep things simple.
* ''[[Vampire: The Requiem]]'' features the Galloi, a Nosferatu bloodline that decides to trade in "[[Uncanny Valley|the crawling creepies]]" for "beauty beyond compare." It doesn't quite work out as planned; they become beautiful and utterly androgynous, but they're ''so'' beautiful that they can't possibly be anything natural, and thus still unnerve people. On top of that, a lot of them worship Cybele, and prefer to do so [[Groin Attack|the old-fashioned way]].
* In ''[[Forgotten Realms]]'', the ormyrr are a non-humanoid race that look like huge worms with big, toad-like heads, and four arms. While they do have genders and have no problem telling each other apart (possibly by odor), it is impossible for members of other races to do so. Most other races use neutral pronouns when referring to them, which doesn't offend them, apparently.
* The [[Yu-Gi-Oh! (Tabletop Game)|''Yu-Gi-Oh!'' card game]] has a downplayed example in [http://yugipedia.com/wiki/Dharc_the_Dark_Charmer "Dharc, the Dark Charmer"] - Dharc is the only one of the archetype referred to with male pronouns, and does straddle the [[Bishonen Line]] in appearance. While the German, Italian and Spanish TCG prints of the card translate "Charmer" as the masculine "Zauberer", "Ammaliatore", and "Encantador" respectively (instead of "Zaubererin", "Ammaliatrice", and "Encantadora"), the French print's card name retains the female "Charmeuse" used for the other "Charmer" monsters. The Japanese version of ''[[Yu-Gi-Oh! 5D's Tag Force 4]]'' uses male pronouns for Dharc.
* The ''YuGiOh'' real-world card game features the character [http://yugioh.wikia.com/wiki/Dharc_the_Dark_Charmer Dharc, the Dark Charmer]. There are four other monsters with similar names, all of which have been female, but Dharc could easily go either way. We're still waiting for someone to even ''ask'' the game's creator...
** According to the French translation, it's a girl; the German translation opts to make it a boy.
 
== [[Theatre]] ==
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'''Robo''': But its exterior is that of a female...
'''Flea''': Male...female...what's the difference? Power is beautiful, and I've got the power! }}
*:* This is even more in context in the DS version:
{{quote|'''Frog''': She is a powerful magician. Do not lower your guard! Flea is not the mere woman she seems.
'''Flea''': Yes, yes... I'm a man, after all, right? *pout*
'''Lucca''': Say what? That's a guy!?
'''Flea''': Tee hee hee... Man or woman, it's all the same. Power is beauty, and I'm deliciously strong! }}
*:* ''[[Chrono Cross]]'' has an even more interesting example. {{spoiler|The computer program FATE is often referred to as the "Goddess of Fate", and in battle, it boasts feminine features. However, the target does say that it is male, and on top of that it had inhabited a male form for the entire game up until that point. Since it is actually a supercomputer, though, gender might be a moot point.}}
* Yumeji from the ''[[Samurai Shodown]]'' series.
* The Great Mizuti from ''[[Baten Kaitos]]''. However, during a very important scene near the end of the game the truth is revealed: {{spoiler|Mizuti's a girl.}}
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* Captain Viridian in ''[[VVVVVV]]'' is never explicitly assigned a gender. Even when giving (somewhat less-than-fulfilling) romantic advice to a trusted member of their crew, the issue of Viridian's gender is entirely unresolved in any capacity. The retro graphics do ultimately little to help clear anything up.
* In ''[[Journey (2012 video game)|Journey]]'', the mysterious robed player character has no gender.
* In ''[[Maple Story]]'', [https://maplestory.fandom.com/wiki/File:NPCArtwork_Jay_(1).png Jay] - Kinesis' assistant/trainer/supplier - seems to be this. The Maple Wiki entry says "male", but the voice during the tutorial seems feminine - whether Jay is the speaking or not is debatable. The profile (where Jay claims to be of the [[Playful Hacker| "PC Master Race"]]) does not specify gender either. Since interaction with Jay is never of any intimate sort (and Kinesis is male and seems heterosexual), it doesn't seem important story-wise.
* ''[[Pokémon]]'':
** Played straight in ''[[Pokémon Red and Blue|Pokémon Red, Blue and Yellow]]'' with the exception of the Nidoran evolutionary lines - but including "obvious" candidates like Machop (which evolves into the male bodybuilder-esque Machoke and Machamp) and Abra (which evolves into the mustachioed Kadabra and Alakazam).
** Subverted with the introduction of gender markers in [[Pokémon Gold and Silver|''Gold'', ''Silver'' and ''Crystal'']] - while there's no difference in appearance between genders for Pokémon, some Pokémon such as the aforementioned Machop and Abra families have non-50/50 gender ratios, and others like Kangaskhan, Miltank and Tauros are [[Single Gender Species]]. In these games only, gender was also tied to Attack IVs - specifically (and a bit [[Unfortunate Implications|unfortunately]]), female Pokémon would always have lower ones than male Pokémon.
** Further subverted from the fourth generation on - ''[[Pokémon Diamond and Pearl]]'' introduce gender differences in appearance for several Pokémon, with some being more subtle than others - e.g., male and female Gyarados have different whisker colorations, while male and female Hippowdon are different colors entirely! These games also introduced gender-specific evolutions such as Vespiquen, Mothim/Wormadam, Froslass, and Gallade.
* When you start off in ''[[Fallen London]]'', you naturally have to choose your character's gender. The choices are "a gentleman", "a lady", and "My dear sir, there are individuals roaming the streets of Fallen London at this very moment with the faces of squid! Squid! Do you ask them their gender? And yet you waste our time asking me trifling and impertinent questions about mine? It is my own business, sir, and I bid you good day." Yeah, the game is kind of weird.
 
== Web Comics ==
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* Most animals.
** Hyenas are especially bad about this because of their rare [[Matriarchy|matriarchal]] social structure, how the female is bigger and more aggressive than the male, and how their naughty bits are almost identical due to the female's usually high level of testosterone, to the point of making ancient people think they were [[Hermaphrodite]]s or [[Gender Bender]]s.
** Birds. Usually, either the male is more flamboyant and colorful thenthan the female, as with peafowl, or the they look identical but the female is bigger, as with eagles.
*** Some birds, like toucans, take this [[Up to Eleven]], so their genders can only be discovered via DNA exams!
* As mentioned above, androgyne is a gender identity for something "halfway" between male and female. Also many a genderqueer person, who reject the binary entirely.