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{{quote|''"How dare you! I knew evil was bad, but ''come on''! [[If You're So Evil Eat This Kitten|Eating kittens]] is just plain... Plain wrong, and no-one should do it, '''ever'''!"'' |'''[[The Tick]]''', "Armless But Not Harmless"}}
{{quote|''"How dare you! I knew evil was bad, but ''come on''! [[If You're So Evil Eat This Kitten|Eating kittens]] is just plain... Plain wrong, and no-one should do it, '''ever'''!"'' |'''[[The Tick]]''', "Armless But Not Harmless"}}


When the bad guy's acts are unquestionably evil, but the show's writers [[Viewers Are Morons|feel the need]] to have characters say this out loud. Frequently a sign of a [[Designated Villain]].
When the bad guy's acts are unquestionably evil, but the show's writers [[Viewers are Morons|feel the need]] to have characters say this out loud. Frequently a sign of a [[Designated Villain]].


This could be considered a villains-only [[Sub Trope]] of [[Anvilicious]]. Named for [http://superdickery.com/index.php?option=com_content&view=article&catid=30:frames-and-panels-index&id=769:and-thats-terrible&Itemid=24#content a page]<ref>Warning - Superdickery.com has been known to carry malware, visit at your own risk.</ref> from ''The Super Dictionary'', where even though we see that [[Lex Luthor]] has stolen forty cakes, the panel still reminds us, "And that's terrible."
This could be considered a villains-only [[Sub Trope]] of [[Anvilicious]]. Named for [http://superdickery.com/index.php?option=com_content&view=article&catid=30:frames-and-panels-index&id=769:and-thats-terrible&Itemid=24#content a page]<ref>Warning - Superdickery.com has been known to carry malware, visit at your own risk.</ref> from ''The Super Dictionary'', where even though we see that [[Lex Luthor]] has stolen forty cakes, the panel still reminds us, "And that's terrible."


If they're established as bad by an actual ''action'', see [[Kick the Dog]] and [[Moral Event Horizon]]. If this is used as ''most'' of what is supposed to make the villain bad, it's [[Offstage Villainy]]. [[You're Insane]] can often be used as an alternative.
If they're established as bad by an actual ''action'', see [[Kick the Dog]] and [[Moral Event Horizon]]. If this is used as ''most'' of what is supposed to make the villain bad, it's [[Offstage Villainy]]. [[You're Insane!]] can often be used as an alternative.


A [[Sub Trope]] of [[Show Don't Tell]]. Might be justified if the villain in question is edging toward [[Draco in Leather Pants]] territory.
A [[Sub Trope]] of [[Show, Don't Tell]]. Might be justified if the villain in question is edging toward [[Draco in Leather Pants]] territory.


See also [[There Should Be a Law]], [[Captain Obvious]], [[That Makes Me Feel Angry]], [[And That Would Be Wrong]], [[Captain Obvious Aesop]], [[Informed Wrongness]], and [[What Do You Mean It's Not Heinous?]]. Contrast [[This Is Wrong On So Many Levels]].
See also [[There Should Be a Law]], [[Captain Obvious]], [[That Makes Me Feel Angry]], [[And That Would Be Wrong]], [[Captain Obvious Aesop]], [[Informed Wrongness]], and [[What Do You Mean It's Not Heinous?]]. Contrast [[This Is Wrong On So Many Levels]].
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== The Abridged Series ==
== The Abridged Series ==
* ''[[Princess Tutu Abridged]]'': Child abuse! "It's bad!"
* ''[[Princess Tutu Abridged]]'': Child abuse! "It's bad!"
* ''[[Yu-Gi-Oh the Abridged Series (Web Video)|Yu-Gi-Oh the Abridged Series]]'' has Yami Marik saying that he got [[Dragon Ball Abridged|Team Four Star]]'s account on [[YouTube]] suspended, and everyone is shocked at such a horrible act. [[Cloudcuckoolander|Except for Tristan]].
* ''[[Yu-Gi-Oh!: The Abridged Series (Web Video)|Yu-Gi-Oh the Abridged Series]]'' has Yami Marik saying that he got [[Dragon Ball Abridged|Team Four Star]]'s account on [[YouTube]] suspended, and everyone is shocked at such a horrible act. [[Cloudcuckoolander|Except for Tristan]].
{{quote| '''Tristan:''' Oh my God! Who's Team Four Star?}}
{{quote| '''Tristan:''' Oh my God! Who's Team Four Star?}}
** Pegasus may have kidnapped Yugi's grandfather, but Kaiba [[Screw the Rules I Have Money|cheated in a card game]] and [[This Is Unforgivable|that's unforgivable]].
** Pegasus may have kidnapped Yugi's grandfather, but Kaiba [[Screw the Rules, I Have Money|cheated in a card game]] and [[This Is Unforgivable!|that's unforgivable]].




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== Films ==
== Films ==
* In ''[[Superman II]]'', Perry White informs Clark Kent that terrorists are threatening to destroy the Eiffel Tower (and [[Nuke Em|much, much more]]).
* In ''[[Superman II]]'', Perry White informs Clark Kent that terrorists are threatening to destroy the Eiffel Tower (and [[Nuke'Em|much, much more]]).
{{quote| '''Clark''': Well, jeez, Mr. White, that's terrible!<br />
{{quote| '''Clark''': Well, jeez, Mr. White, that's terrible!<br />
'''Perry''': That's why they call them ''terrorists'', Kent. }}
'''Perry''': That's why they call them ''terrorists'', Kent. }}
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== Literature ==
== Literature ==
* The writers of the ''[[The Glove of Darth Vader|Glove Of Darth Vader]]'' series apparently felt [[The Empire]] was not [[Obviously Evil]] enough. Yes, the Empire from ''[[Star Wars]]''. The books dealt with this by taking the bad guys to sublime levels of [[Card Carrying Villain|Card Carrying Villainy]]. ("I bid you Dark Greetings!") And not even that stopped the narration from constantly referring to them as evil.
* The writers of the ''[[The Glove of Darth Vader|Glove Of Darth Vader]]'' series apparently felt [[The Empire]] was not [[Obviously Evil]] enough. Yes, the Empire from ''[[Star Wars]]''. The books dealt with this by taking the bad guys to sublime levels of [[Card-Carrying Villain|Card Carrying Villainy]]. ("I bid you Dark Greetings!") And not even that stopped the narration from constantly referring to them as evil.
* In ''[[The Legend of Rah and The Muggles (Literature)|The Legend of Rah and The Muggles]]'', when Zyn starts to turn evil, everyone goes on about how he's so "nasty" that he's spreading nastiness like a disease. The talking animals, the Muggles (including Zyn's adopted mother), and dear lord the ''narrator herself'' can't go for two sentences without reminding us how evil Zyn is.
* In ''[[The Legend of Rah and The Muggles (Literature)|The Legend of Rah and The Muggles]]'', when Zyn starts to turn evil, everyone goes on about how he's so "nasty" that he's spreading nastiness like a disease. The talking animals, the Muggles (including Zyn's adopted mother), and dear lord the ''narrator herself'' can't go for two sentences without reminding us how evil Zyn is.
* From the ''[[Honor Harrington (Literature)|Honor Harrington]]'' series, we get this gem from ''War of Honor'' as the [[Sleazy Politician|High Ridge government]] discusses the possibility of facing a new war that could cause their navy huge casualties:
* From the ''[[Honor Harrington (Literature)|Honor Harrington]]'' series, we get this gem from ''War of Honor'' as the [[Sleazy Politician|High Ridge government]] discusses the possibility of facing a new war that could cause their navy huge casualties:
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== Live Action TV ==
== Live Action TV ==
* ''[[Law and Order Special Victims Unit]]'' tends to do this whenever kiddie porn peddlers are involved. One episode featured a convicted pedophile set up a "safe" website for pedophiles to get their fill: [[Loophole Abuse|pictures of underaged children, fully dressed, not in any sexual situations]]. The show tried to sell us that this was bad by having him post a picture of one of the detective's children, causing him to snap and attack him. Not that it was exactly "good", either.
* ''[[Law and Order Special Victims Unit]]'' tends to do this whenever kiddie porn peddlers are involved. One episode featured a convicted pedophile set up a "safe" website for pedophiles to get their fill: [[Loophole Abuse|pictures of underaged children, fully dressed, not in any sexual situations]]. The show tried to sell us that this was bad by having him post a picture of one of the detective's children, causing him to snap and attack him. Not that it was exactly "good", either.
* ''[[Law and Order (TV)|Law and Order]]'' itself tends to be just as bad when their cases have sex crimes connection (with a side of [[What Do You Mean Its Not Heinous]] when dealing with escort services).
* ''[[Law and Order (TV)|Law and Order]]'' itself tends to be just as bad when their cases have sex crimes connection (with a side of [[What Do You Mean It's Not Heinous?]] when dealing with escort services).
* ''[[CSI (TV)|CSI]]'' does this with child molesters quite a lot, too, to contrast them with the frequently jovial treatment they give killers on the show and to say, "But this is ''really'' bad!"
* ''[[CSI (TV)|CSI]]'' does this with child molesters quite a lot, too, to contrast them with the frequently jovial treatment they give killers on the show and to say, "But this is ''really'' bad!"
* Gul Dukat's appearances in the last two seasons of ''[[Star Trek Deep Space Nine (TV)|Star Trek Deep Space Nine]]'' generally included a lot of this. [[Word of God]] says that the creators were concerned about [[Misaimed Fandom]]. So the episode "Waltz" ends with this speech:
* Gul Dukat's appearances in the last two seasons of ''[[Star Trek Deep Space Nine (TV)|Star Trek Deep Space Nine]]'' generally included a lot of this. [[Word of God]] says that the creators were concerned about [[Misaimed Fandom]]. So the episode "Waltz" ends with this speech:
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* Played for laughs in ''[[The Office (TV)|The Office]]'', when David Brent will often end a conversation about sexism or racism with 'which I hate!' just to vainly try and affirm his PC credentials.
* Played for laughs in ''[[The Office (TV)|The Office]]'', when David Brent will often end a conversation about sexism or racism with 'which I hate!' just to vainly try and affirm his PC credentials.
* ''[[Doctor Who (TV)|Doctor Who]]'' is fond of this, usually with the Daleks.
* ''[[Doctor Who (TV)|Doctor Who]]'' is fond of this, usually with the Daleks.
** You'd think {{spoiler|The Master turning everyone on Earth into a copy of himself}} in "The End of Time" was evil enough without {{spoiler|referring to them as [[Godwins Law|"The Master Race."]]}}
** You'd think {{spoiler|The Master turning everyone on Earth into a copy of himself}} in "The End of Time" was evil enough without {{spoiler|referring to them as [[Godwin's Law|"The Master Race."]]}}
* ''[[Highlander (TV)|Highlander]]'' had a tendency to do this. Richie or Joe tells Duncan that the past "crimes" of some Immortal of the week weren't [[Values Dissonance|quite as heinous]] in [[Society Marches On|the time period they were committed]]. Duncan retorts it was "always wrong" and since he's [[The Hero]], is [[Writer On Board|framed as being right]].
* ''[[Highlander (TV)|Highlander]]'' had a tendency to do this. Richie or Joe tells Duncan that the past "crimes" of some Immortal of the week weren't [[Values Dissonance|quite as heinous]] in [[Society Marches On|the time period they were committed]]. Duncan retorts it was "always wrong" and since he's [[The Hero]], is [[Writer On Board|framed as being right]].
* ''[[NCIS (TV)|NCIS]]'', "Toxic":
* ''[[NCIS (TV)|NCIS]]'', "Toxic":
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* [[Crowning Moment of Funny|Hilariously]] [[Subverted Trope|subverted]] by GLaDOS in [[Portal 2 (Video Game)|Portal 2]] when she tries to confuse Wheatley.
* [[Crowning Moment of Funny|Hilariously]] [[Subverted Trope|subverted]] by GLaDOS in [[Portal 2 (Video Game)|Portal 2]] when she tries to confuse Wheatley.
{{quote| '''[[Enemy Mine|GLaDOS]]''' ''(to Wheatley)'': What exactly is wrong with being adopted ? ''(to Chell)'' For the record, [[You Are Fat|you are adopted]] [[And That's Terrible|and that's terrible]], just work with me.}}
{{quote| '''[[Enemy Mine|GLaDOS]]''' ''(to Wheatley)'': What exactly is wrong with being adopted ? ''(to Chell)'' For the record, [[You Are Fat|you are adopted]] [[And That's Terrible|and that's terrible]], just work with me.}}
* ''[[The Legend of Zelda Skyward Sword (Video Game)|The Legend of Zelda: Skyward Sword]]'', when you pick up a Rupoor: "You picked up a Rupoor! That means you've lost 10 Rupees. And that's a little bit sad."
* ''[[The Legend of Zelda: Skyward Sword (Video Game)|The Legend of Zelda: Skyward Sword]]'', when you pick up a Rupoor: "You picked up a Rupoor! That means you've lost 10 Rupees. And that's a little bit sad."
* [[Team Fortress 2 (Video Game)|Team Fortress 2]] has the Sniper's weapon "Jarate", involving a [[Exactly What It Says On the Tin|jar]] and... [[Toilet Humour|something yellow]]. The Engineer has a voice response for getting hit by it: "That just ain't right!"
* [[Team Fortress 2 (Video Game)|Team Fortress 2]] has the Sniper's weapon "Jarate", involving a [[Exactly What It Says On the Tin|jar]] and... [[Toilet Humour|something yellow]]. The Engineer has a voice response for getting hit by it: "That just ain't right!"
* [[Final Fantasy]] loves doing this:
* [[Final Fantasy]] loves doing this:
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* [[Dr. Horribles Sing Along Blog|Captain Hammer's]] penultimate speech. Once he drops the 'tiny cue cards', he says, "She turned me on to this whole homelessness things. Which is terrible. And I realized something..."
* [[Dr. Horribles Sing Along Blog|Captain Hammer's]] penultimate speech. Once he drops the 'tiny cue cards', he says, "She turned me on to this whole homelessness things. Which is terrible. And I realized something..."
* [[EPICMEALTIME (Web Video)|EPICMEALTIME]] cracks eggs like they crack smoke. Smoke crack? No, [[Drugs Are Bad|that's bad]].
* [[EPICMEALTIME (Web Video)|EPICMEALTIME]] cracks eggs like they crack smoke. Smoke crack? No, [[Drugs Are Bad|that's bad]].
* [[Red vs. Blue (Machinima)|Red vs. Blue]] combines this with a form of [[Arson Murder and Jaywalking]] when Sarge finds O'Mally's first victim.
* [[Red vs. Blue (Machinima)|Red vs. Blue]] combines this with a form of [[Arson, Murder, and Jaywalking]] when Sarge finds O'Mally's first victim.
{{quote| '''Sarge:''' Once again I find myself torn. On the one hand, there's one less blue in the Universe. But now Doc's got a bigger body count than me! ''And that just won't do.'' No sir. }}
{{quote| '''Sarge:''' Once again I find myself torn. On the one hand, there's one less blue in the Universe. But now Doc's got a bigger body count than me! ''And that just won't do.'' No sir. }}




== Western Animation ==
== Western Animation ==
* Both justified and not in "Who Shot Mr. Burns, Part I", a summer cliffhanger on ''[[The Simpsons]]'' (the second part not being aired until a few months later) that gave [[Corrupt Corporate Executive|Charles Montgomery Burns]] as many [[Kick the Dog]] moments as possible (in one case quite literally) to create a situation in which [[Asshole Victim|practically everyone in Springfield would have a motive for shooting him]]. Burns has become obsessed with forcing the people of Springfield to rely only on nuclear power from his power plant, and when oil is discovered in the town, Burns buys up all the oil fields to preempt their exploitation by the townspeople. Then, to prevent everyone from using solar power - the one energy source that Burns cannot monopolize - Burns deploys an invention of his that effectively blocks out the sun, plunging Springfield into eternal night. Waylon Smithers, Burns's assistant, has reluctantly gone along until now, primarily out of respect and genuine admiration for Burns, but now tells his boss that his plan is "unconscionably fiendish." Burns promptly fires Smithers for insubordination, reducing the servant to a drunken wreck. He then goes to City Hall just to taunt the townspeople, many of whom are wielding guns at the meeting and some of whom have already threatened to kill him. As Burns [[Tempting Fate|crows that no one in Springfield has the courage to shoot him in the open]], the citizens stand up one by one and together deliver a drawn-out [[The Reason You Suck Speech]], saying that Burns deserves to die and should go to Hell and so forth. (Ironically, after all this, the one who eventually shoots Burns in a darkened alley does so by accident: it's {{spoiler|Maggie Simpson}}.)
* Both justified and not in "Who Shot Mr. Burns, Part I", a summer cliffhanger on ''[[The Simpsons]]'' (the second part not being aired until a few months later) that gave [[Corrupt Corporate Executive|Charles Montgomery Burns]] as many [[Kick the Dog]] moments as possible (in one case quite literally) to create a situation in which [[Asshole Victim|practically everyone in Springfield would have a motive for shooting him]]. Burns has become obsessed with forcing the people of Springfield to rely only on nuclear power from his power plant, and when oil is discovered in the town, Burns buys up all the oil fields to preempt their exploitation by the townspeople. Then, to prevent everyone from using solar power - the one energy source that Burns cannot monopolize - Burns deploys an invention of his that effectively blocks out the sun, plunging Springfield into eternal night. Waylon Smithers, Burns's assistant, has reluctantly gone along until now, primarily out of respect and genuine admiration for Burns, but now tells his boss that his plan is "unconscionably fiendish." Burns promptly fires Smithers for insubordination, reducing the servant to a drunken wreck. He then goes to City Hall just to taunt the townspeople, many of whom are wielding guns at the meeting and some of whom have already threatened to kill him. As Burns [[Tempting Fate|crows that no one in Springfield has the courage to shoot him in the open]], the citizens stand up one by one and together deliver a drawn-out [["The Reason You Suck" Speech]], saying that Burns deserves to die and should go to Hell and so forth. (Ironically, after all this, the one who eventually shoots Burns in a darkened alley does so by accident: it's {{spoiler|Maggie Simpson}}.)
* In ''[[Adventures of Sonic the Hedgehog]]'', Sonic says "[[Clueless Aesop|If someone tries to touch you in a place or in a way that makes you feel uncomfortable]], [[Memetic Mutation|that's no good!]]" Although, this ''was'' to [[Too Smart for Strangers|educate children]]. Children are not expected to know such things.
* In ''[[Adventures of Sonic the Hedgehog]]'', Sonic says "[[Clueless Aesop|If someone tries to touch you in a place or in a way that makes you feel uncomfortable]], [[Memetic Mutation|that's no good!]]" Although, this ''was'' to [[Too Smart for Strangers|educate children]]. Children are not expected to know such things.
** ''[[She Ra Princess of Power (Animation)|She-Ra: Princess of Power]]'' had a very similar PSA at the end of one episode that said almost the same thing. Though very narmy, it actually prompted a few kids to confess to having been molested, so it did it's job.
** ''[[She Ra Princess of Power (Animation)|She-Ra: Princess of Power]]'' had a very similar PSA at the end of one episode that said almost the same thing. Though very narmy, it actually prompted a few kids to confess to having been molested, so it did it's job.
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''(Timmy still doesn't get it.)''<br />
''(Timmy still doesn't get it.)''<br />
'''Wanda:''' Which is bad. }}
'''Wanda:''' Which is bad. }}
* ''[[Static Shock]]'' plays this trope so straight it crosses over into [[So Bad Its Good]] territory on an episode dealing with the horrors of racism. No, really. ''Verbatim.''
* ''[[Static Shock]]'' plays this trope so straight it crosses over into [[So Bad It's Good]] territory on an episode dealing with the horrors of racism. No, really. ''Verbatim.''
{{quote| '''Richie''': My best friend is gone because of you and your stupid racism! ''I hate you!''}}
{{quote| '''Richie''': My best friend is gone because of you and your stupid racism! ''I hate you!''}}
* ''[[Futurama]]'' gives [[My Friends and Zoidberg|Zoidberg]] the wonderful "Your music is bad and you should feel bad!"
* ''[[Futurama]]'' gives [[My Friends and Zoidberg|Zoidberg]] the wonderful "Your music is bad and you should feel bad!"
* ''[[Care Bears|Adventures in Care-a-Lot]]'' has the characters use a lot of [[That Makes Me Feel Angry|Feelings Talk]] to deliver the episode's [[Aesop]], so it's no wonder that [[Harmless Villain|Grizzle]] would get called out at least once in this manner.
* ''[[Care Bears|Adventures in Care-a-Lot]]'' has the characters use a lot of [[That Makes Me Feel Angry|Feelings Talk]] to deliver the episode's [[Aesop]], so it's no wonder that [[Harmless Villain|Grizzle]] would get called out at least once in this manner.
{{quote| "Well, what you did was bad! And wrong! [[Arson Murder and Jaywalking|And a lot of feelings got hurt.]]"}}
{{quote| "Well, what you did was bad! And wrong! [[Arson, Murder, and Jaywalking|And a lot of feelings got hurt.]]"}}
* As the second page quote shows, ''[[The Tick]]'' is really prone to doing this. What with his [[The Ditz|mental state]], this is not particularly surprising.
* As the second page quote shows, ''[[The Tick]]'' is really prone to doing this. What with his [[The Ditz|mental state]], this is not particularly surprising.
* A rather [[Narm|narmy]] version occurs in ''[[Avatar: The Last Airbender (Animation)|Avatar: The Last Airbender]]'' in the series finale, when {{spoiler|Zuko}} finishes explaining what {{spoiler|Ozai}} is actually going to do. What it is is actually pretty terrifying, (What it is: {{spoiler|burning down the entire Earth Continent, plants and people alike}}), but then the [[Comic Relief]] character points out for our convenience:
* A rather [[Narm|narmy]] version occurs in ''[[Avatar: The Last Airbender (Animation)|Avatar: The Last Airbender]]'' in the series finale, when {{spoiler|Zuko}} finishes explaining what {{spoiler|Ozai}} is actually going to do. What it is is actually pretty terrifying, (What it is: {{spoiler|burning down the entire Earth Continent, plants and people alike}}), but then the [[Comic Relief]] character points out for our convenience:
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** Including the disclaimers just opens the door to further controversy. What, exactly, is the message here? "Don't make fun of people who look different from you?" (When, frankly, that's what 50 percent of American humor is, anyway!) "Joking about people is fine, but make sure they're not racial minorities, because they're emotionally fragile and can't handle teasing?" Or is it just "Shooting someone in the face will not result in a blackface gag, so don't try it?"
** Including the disclaimers just opens the door to further controversy. What, exactly, is the message here? "Don't make fun of people who look different from you?" (When, frankly, that's what 50 percent of American humor is, anyway!) "Joking about people is fine, but make sure they're not racial minorities, because they're emotionally fragile and can't handle teasing?" Or is it just "Shooting someone in the face will not result in a blackface gag, so don't try it?"
* ''[[South Park]]''. [[Played for Laughs]]. Especially when the episode has a civil-rights message.
* ''[[South Park]]''. [[Played for Laughs]]. Especially when the episode has a civil-rights message.
** The visit to the Museum of Tolerance in "Death Camp of Tolerance," for one. The tour guide speaks to the group of adults and children [[Viewers Are Morons|as if they're all five years old]].
** The visit to the Museum of Tolerance in "Death Camp of Tolerance," for one. The tour guide speaks to the group of adults and children [[Viewers are Morons|as if they're all five years old]].
** "That movie turns Jews into ''[[Shaped Like Itself|steereeuhtypes]]''! And stereotyping minorities is ''[[Hypocritical Humor|raaauung]]''!"
** "That movie turns Jews into ''[[Shaped Like Itself|steereeuhtypes]]''! And stereotyping minorities is ''[[Hypocritical Humor|raaauung]]''!"
* 1973/74 ''[[Super Friends]]'' episode "The Weather Maker''. The villains have been diverting the Gulf Stream, which has caused severe weather disruptions across the Atlantic Ocean. When the title characters catch up to them, the [[Big Bad]] turns the machine to "Irreversibly On" so they can't turn it off.
* 1973/74 ''[[Super Friends]]'' episode "The Weather Maker''. The villains have been diverting the Gulf Stream, which has caused severe weather disruptions across the Atlantic Ocean. When the title characters catch up to them, the [[Big Bad]] turns the machine to "Irreversibly On" so they can't turn it off.