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Has nothing to do with shoes.
Has nothing to do with shoes.


=== '''[http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Affirming_the_consequent Affirming the consequent]''': ===
== [[wikipedia:Affirming the consequent|Affirming the consequent]] ==


:: This claim is most simply put as:
:: This claim is most simply put as:


{{quote| If A, then B.<br />
{{quote|If A, then B.
B.<br />
B.
Therefore, A. }}
Therefore, A. }}


:: It's a fallacy because at no point is it shown that A is the ''only'' possible cause of B; therefore, even if B is true, A can still be false. For example:
:: It's a fallacy because at no point is it shown that A is the ''only'' possible cause of B; therefore, even if B is true, A can still be false. For example:


{{quote| If my car was Ferrari, it would be able to travel at over a hundred miles per hour.<br />
{{quote|If my car was Ferrari, it would be able to travel at over a hundred miles per hour.
I clocked my car at 101 miles per hour.<br />
I clocked my car at 101 miles per hour.
Therefore, my car is a Ferrari. }}
Therefore, my car is a Ferrari. }}
:: This is popular in conspiracy theories. Here the fallacy is fairly obvious; given the evidence, the car ''might'' be a Ferrari, but it might also be a Bugatti, Lamborghini, or any other model of performance car, since the ability to travel that fast is not unique to Ferraris. Hell, it might even be a Subaru Outback. Note that while this may appear to call all hypothesis / evidence experiments fallacious, they are based on additional evaluations of the likelihood of ''other'' theories, thus establishing that A ''is'' a likely cause of B.
:: This is popular in conspiracy theories. Here the fallacy is fairly obvious; given the evidence, the car ''might'' be a Ferrari, but it might also be a Bugatti, Lamborghini, or any other model of performance car, since the ability to travel that fast is not unique to Ferraris. Hell, it might even be a Subaru Outback. Note that while this may appear to call all hypothesis / evidence experiments fallacious, they are based on additional evaluations of the likelihood of ''other'' theories, thus establishing that A ''is'' a likely cause of B.


=== '''[http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Denying_the_antecedent Denying the antecedent]''': ===
== [[wikipedia:Denying the antecedent|Denying the antecedent]] ==


:: The flip side of the above, where you say that because the initial conditions did not happen, the result is impossible.
:: The flip side of the above, where you say that because the initial conditions did not happen, the result is impossible.


{{quote| If a person is wearing a hat, they have a head.<br />
{{quote|If a person is wearing a hat, they have a head.
I am not wearing a hat.<br />
I am not wearing a hat.
Therefore I do not have a head. }}
Therefore I do not have a head. }}


:: Note that, by the [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Contrapositive contrapositive] rule, these two fallacies are equivalent. For example, you could replace "If a person is wearing a hat, they have a head" by the logically identical statement "If a person has no head, they aren't wearing a hat" to turn the first example of denying the antecedent into an example of affirming the consequent.
:: Note that, by the [[wikipedia:Contrapositive|contrapositive]] rule, these two fallacies are equivalent. For example, you could replace "If a person is wearing a hat, they have a head" by the logically identical statement "If a person has no head, they aren't wearing a hat" to turn the first example of denying the antecedent into an example of affirming the consequent.


{{examples|Examples:}}
* In ''[[American Dad (Animation)|American Dad]]'', Stan sinks his entire savings to build a rocket for Steve to win a contest.


== Looks like this fallacy but is not ==
{{quote| Stan: You gotta spend money to make money.<br />
* Inference to the best explanation. The usual form of scientific reasoning, as well as a lot of Sherlock Holmes' "deductions" (though he's wrong to call them that, since this is a form of ''inductive'' reasoning).
Francine: But you didn't make any money!<br />
{{quote|B.
The best explanation for B would be A.
Therefore, A (probably). }}
** This differs from the Ferrari example above in that it posits a stronger connection between A and B than just A's truth entailing B's; B is actually giving some positive reason to ''prefer'' A over the other possibilities. (This approaches, without actually becoming, the logical relationship "if and only if".) Also, this form of argument isn't claiming deductive certainty, so the bar is a little lower for it being acceptable.
** Scientific reasoning is frequently attacked by those who understand this fallacy, but not the scientific method, which has the following form:
{{quote|B.
A is the best explanation for B, so I will claim "A is the most likely explanation."
If A, then C.
Therefore, if not C, not A (valid contrapositive).
Is C true? Yes? I will increase my confidence that A is the correct explanation.
If A, then D.
Not D!
I must provisionally reject A or modify it to account for D, then continue to seek new information and propose new possible explanations. }}


{{examples}}
* In ''[[American Dad]]'', Stan sinks his entire savings to build a rocket for Steve to win a contest.

{{quote|Stan: You gotta spend money to make money.
Francine: But you didn't make any money!
Stan: So logically, I didn't spend any money! [[No Fourth Wall|*waves at the camera*]] Goodnight everybody! }}
Stan: So logically, I didn't spend any money! [[No Fourth Wall|*waves at the camera*]] Goodnight everybody! }}


* A current argument made by Obama supporters against conservatives.
* An argument made by Obama supporters against conservatives.
{{quote| Racists who don't like black people oppose Obama's presidency<br />
{{quote|Racists who don't like black people oppose Obama's presidency
Bob opposes Obama's presidency<br />
Bob opposes Obama's presidency
Therefore Bob is a racist. }}
Therefore Bob is a racist. }}
** This is not to say that you can't make an argument that someone that opposes Obama is a racist, but it does not follow automatically from being opposed to his presidency and/or policies.
** This is not to say that you can't make an argument that someone that opposes Obama is a racist, but it does not follow automatically from being opposed to his presidency and/or policies.
** A similar argument from Obama detractors is that anyone who voted for Obama did so only for affirmative action's sake, rather than because they believed Obama was a strong candidate on his own merit.
** A similar argument from Obama detractors is that anyone who voted for Obama did so only for affirmative action's sake, rather than because they believed Obama was a strong candidate on his own merit.
** I opposed Obama because I was for Hillary, [[Hypocritical Humor|you sexist!]]
** I opposed Obama because I was for Hillary, [[Hypocritical Humor|you sexist!]]
==== Looks like this fallacy but is not: ====
* Inference to the best explanation. The usual form of scientific reasoning, as well as a lot of Sherlock Holmes' "deductions" (though he's wrong to call them that, since this is a form of ''inductive'' reasoning).
{{quote| B.<br />
The best explanation for B would be A.<br />
Therefore, A (probably). }}
** This differs from the Ferrari example above in that it posits a stronger connection between A and B than just A's truth entailing B's; B is actually giving some positive reason to ''prefer'' A over the other possibilities. Also, this form of argument isn't claiming deductive certainty, so the bar is a little lower for it being acceptable.
** Scientific reasoning is frequently attacked by those who understand this fallacy, but not the scientific method, which has the following form:
{{quote| B.<br />
A is the best explanation for B, so I will claim "A is the most likely explanation."<br />
If A, then C.<br />
Therefore, if not C, not A (valid contrapositive).<br />
Is C true? Yes? I will increase my confidence that A is the correct explanation.<br />
If A, then D.<br />
Not D!<br />
I must provisionally reject A or modify it to account for D, then continue to seek new information and propose new possible explanations. }}


{{reflist}}
{{reflist}}
[[Category:Logic Tropes]]
[[Category:Logical Fallacies]]
[[Category:Logical Fallacies]]
[[Category:Converse Error]]
[[Category:Converse Error]]
[[Category:Trope]]

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    Has nothing to do with shoes.

    Affirming the consequent

    This claim is most simply put as:

    If A, then B.
    B.
    Therefore, A.

    It's a fallacy because at no point is it shown that A is the only possible cause of B; therefore, even if B is true, A can still be false. For example:

    If my car was Ferrari, it would be able to travel at over a hundred miles per hour.
    I clocked my car at 101 miles per hour.
    Therefore, my car is a Ferrari.

    This is popular in conspiracy theories. Here the fallacy is fairly obvious; given the evidence, the car might be a Ferrari, but it might also be a Bugatti, Lamborghini, or any other model of performance car, since the ability to travel that fast is not unique to Ferraris. Hell, it might even be a Subaru Outback. Note that while this may appear to call all hypothesis / evidence experiments fallacious, they are based on additional evaluations of the likelihood of other theories, thus establishing that A is a likely cause of B.

    Denying the antecedent

    The flip side of the above, where you say that because the initial conditions did not happen, the result is impossible.

    If a person is wearing a hat, they have a head.
    I am not wearing a hat.
    Therefore I do not have a head.

    Note that, by the contrapositive rule, these two fallacies are equivalent. For example, you could replace "If a person is wearing a hat, they have a head" by the logically identical statement "If a person has no head, they aren't wearing a hat" to turn the first example of denying the antecedent into an example of affirming the consequent.


    Looks like this fallacy but is not

    • Inference to the best explanation. The usual form of scientific reasoning, as well as a lot of Sherlock Holmes' "deductions" (though he's wrong to call them that, since this is a form of inductive reasoning).

    B.
    The best explanation for B would be A.
    Therefore, A (probably).

      • This differs from the Ferrari example above in that it posits a stronger connection between A and B than just A's truth entailing B's; B is actually giving some positive reason to prefer A over the other possibilities. (This approaches, without actually becoming, the logical relationship "if and only if".) Also, this form of argument isn't claiming deductive certainty, so the bar is a little lower for it being acceptable.
      • Scientific reasoning is frequently attacked by those who understand this fallacy, but not the scientific method, which has the following form:

    B.
    A is the best explanation for B, so I will claim "A is the most likely explanation."
    If A, then C.
    Therefore, if not C, not A (valid contrapositive).
    Is C true? Yes? I will increase my confidence that A is the correct explanation.
    If A, then D.
    Not D!
    I must provisionally reject A or modify it to account for D, then continue to seek new information and propose new possible explanations.


    Examples of Converse Error include:
    • In American Dad, Stan sinks his entire savings to build a rocket for Steve to win a contest.

    Stan: You gotta spend money to make money.
    Francine: But you didn't make any money!
    Stan: So logically, I didn't spend any money! *waves at the camera* Goodnight everybody!

    • An argument made by Obama supporters against conservatives.

    Racists who don't like black people oppose Obama's presidency
    Bob opposes Obama's presidency
    Therefore Bob is a racist.

      • This is not to say that you can't make an argument that someone that opposes Obama is a racist, but it does not follow automatically from being opposed to his presidency and/or policies.
      • A similar argument from Obama detractors is that anyone who voted for Obama did so only for affirmative action's sake, rather than because they believed Obama was a strong candidate on his own merit.
      • I opposed Obama because I was for Hillary, you sexist!