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* Manwiththeplan: The [[Grand Finale]] of [[Digimon Xros Wars: The Young Hunters Leaping Through Time]] is worse than the ending of ''02'' and the Royal Knights arc of ''Frontier'' put together. {{spoiler|It turns out that all the past Digimon heroes coming together was overglorified [[Fan Service]] for the anniversary of the franchise, since they're all rendered useless by the final battle. Taiki, the hero of the past ''Xros Wars'' seasons, gets knocked out by a cheap shot from Ryouma and Astamon once Ryouma reveals he's working for Quartzmon, so he gives his goggles to [[Creator's Pet]] extraordianaire Tagiru, in order for him to take his place. Then Astamon is revealed to have been Quartzmon all along, something that was barely foreshadowed and causes Ryouma to make a [[Heel Face Turn]] because he realizes Quartzmon was using him all along. (Uhh, weren't you concioussly choosing to help Quartzmon anyway, Ryouma? Shouldn't your partner digimon being Quartzmon all along make things more convieniant?) The past heroes then all give their power to Tagiru so he fights the final battle wih Quartzmon alone. It gets to the point where Quartzmon has Xrossed himself with the entire earth and has absorbed the souls of every living thing, so it's up to Tagiru to save the universe on his own, making him an outstanding example of a [[God Mode Sue]] and [[Black Hole Sue]]. And his motivation in all this? "Defeating and hunting Quartzmon will make him a true superstar?" WHAT ABOUT ALL YOUR FRIENDS, LOVED ONES, AND THE WHOLE WORLD YOU SELFISH LITTLE SHIT? And after Quartzmon is defeated, the series ends abrubtly with no true sense of closure and a few things left hanging too!}} So basically, [[They Wasted a Perfectly Good Plot]] in order to show off this flat, unlikable character reminiscent of a self-insert fanfic [[Mary Sue]], and secured ''Young Hunters'' place as the worst [[Digimon]] series ever.
* Manwiththeplan: The [[Grand Finale]] of [[Digimon Xros Wars: The Young Hunters Leaping Through Time]] is worse than the ending of ''02'' and the Royal Knights arc of ''Frontier'' put together. {{spoiler|It turns out that all the past Digimon heroes coming together was overglorified [[Fan Service]] for the anniversary of the franchise, since they're all rendered useless by the final battle. Taiki, the hero of the past ''Xros Wars'' seasons, gets knocked out by a cheap shot from Ryouma and Astamon once Ryouma reveals he's working for Quartzmon, so he gives his goggles to [[Creator's Pet]] extraordianaire Tagiru, in order for him to take his place. Then Astamon is revealed to have been Quartzmon all along, something that was barely foreshadowed and causes Ryouma to make a [[Heel Face Turn]] because he realizes Quartzmon was using him all along. (Uhh, weren't you concioussly choosing to help Quartzmon anyway, Ryouma? Shouldn't your partner digimon being Quartzmon all along make things more convieniant?) The past heroes then all give their power to Tagiru so he fights the final battle wih Quartzmon alone. It gets to the point where Quartzmon has Xrossed himself with the entire earth and has absorbed the souls of every living thing, so it's up to Tagiru to save the universe on his own, making him an outstanding example of a [[God Mode Sue]] and [[Black Hole Sue]]. And his motivation in all this? "Defeating and hunting Quartzmon will make him a true superstar?" WHAT ABOUT ALL YOUR FRIENDS, LOVED ONES, AND THE WHOLE WORLD YOU SELFISH LITTLE SHIT? And after Quartzmon is defeated, the series ends abrubtly with no true sense of closure and a few things left hanging too!}} So basically, [[They Wasted a Perfectly Good Plot]] in order to show off this flat, unlikable character reminiscent of a self-insert fanfic [[Mary Sue]], and secured ''Young Hunters'' place as the worst [[Digimon]] series ever.
* ''[[Futakoi Alternative]]'' is a pretty good show that starts as an [[Crazy Awesome|over-the-top]] [[Rule of Cool|action]]-[[Rule of Funny|comedy]], [[Genre Shift|quickly drops the action]], [[Rule of Drama|then shifts to character drama]]. Surprisingly, it somehow manages to do all of this very well. And then the end of episode 10 pretty much ruins the show. The preceding episodes are intensely dramatic, melancholic, and realistic, with decreasing amounts of comedy. The end of episode 10 marks the reversion of the show to action-comedy, and it comes literally out of nowhere. This is [[Mood Whiplash]] at its finest; the dark nature of the preceding story arc makes the over-the-top-ridiculous action seem [[Wall Banger|very, very out-of-place]], while the over-the-top-ridiculous action makes the dark, realistic drama (which at this point still needs to be fully resolved) [[Narm|impossible to take seriously]].
* ''[[Futakoi Alternative]]'' is a pretty good show that starts as an [[Crazy Awesome|over-the-top]] [[Rule of Cool|action]]-[[Rule of Funny|comedy]], [[Genre Shift|quickly drops the action]], [[Rule of Drama|then shifts to character drama]]. Surprisingly, it somehow manages to do all of this very well. And then the end of episode 10 pretty much ruins the show. The preceding episodes are intensely dramatic, melancholic, and realistic, with decreasing amounts of comedy. The end of episode 10 marks the reversion of the show to action-comedy, and it comes literally out of nowhere. This is [[Mood Whiplash]] at its finest; the dark nature of the preceding story arc makes the over-the-top-ridiculous action seem [[Wall Banger|very, very out-of-place]], while the over-the-top-ridiculous action makes the dark, realistic drama (which at this point still needs to be fully resolved) [[Narm|impossible to take seriously]].
* [[Nadia: The Secret of Blue Water]] was one of my favorite anime, and while I have problems about the Island arc, I found episode 31 to be really good (It progresses the story, gave more development to the title character and introduces the Red Noah). But that's not why I put it here. The three next episodes (AKA The Africa Arc) were, for me, a three part [[Big Lipped Alligator Moment]] where 1) it introduces a second [[Love Interest]] who was already fiancé to someone else (which was never explained or lampshaded), 2) derails the character of Nadia where not one episode ago she says that Jean was more important to her than her Blue Water, 3) derails the character of Grandis to fall into the same trap who ruined her family in the first place (with the same person to boot) and 4) gave us a [[BLAM Episode]] where Jean tries to express his love for Nadia in form of a song. The only thing it gave us is a closure to Grandis' character arc (which is pointless after all).
* ''[[Nadia: The Secret of Blue Water]]'' was one of my favorite anime, and while I have problems about the Island arc, I found episode 31 to be really good (It progresses the story, gave more development to the title character and introduces the Red Noah). But that's not why I put it here. The three next episodes (AKA The Africa Arc) were, for me, a three part [[Big Lipped Alligator Moment]] where 1) it introduces a second [[Love Interest]] who was already fiancée to someone else (which was never explained or lampshaded), 2) derails the character of Nadia where not one episode ago she says that Jean was more important to her than her Blue Water, 3) derails the character of Grandis to fall into the same trap who ruined her family in the first place (with the same person to boot) and 4) gave us a [[Non Sequitur Episode]] where Jean tries to express his love for Nadia in form of a song. The only thing it gave us is a closure to Grandis' character arc (which is pointless after all).
** I concur. The Island/Africa arc is genuinely terrible, but those three episodes were the worst. [[Canon Discontinuity|They're even disregarded when the show gets back on its feet again.]] And yes, the way they destroyed Nadia's character was absolutely unforgiveable; they also did quite a bit of damage to her in the island arc by having her be psychotic and idiotic. (Stealing food from her friends? Smashing cans with boulders? Kissing Jean while he's stoned and expecting him to remember it? HELLO! This is SO not like Nadia's character in the first 22 episodes!) [[Word of God|It's no wonder Anno disowned ten of these twelve episodes.]]
** I concur. The Island/Africa arc is genuinely terrible, but those three episodes were the worst. [[Canon Discontinuity|They're even disregarded when the show gets back on its feet again.]] And yes, the way they destroyed Nadia's character was absolutely unforgiveable; they also did quite a bit of damage to her in the island arc by having her be psychotic and idiotic. (Stealing food from her friends? Smashing cans with boulders? Kissing Jean while he's stoned and expecting him to remember it? HELLO! This is SO not like Nadia's character in the first 22 episodes!) [[Word of God|It's no wonder Anno disowned ten of these twelve episodes.]]
** The worst part, IMO, is in episode 23 when Nadia said Grandis, Hanson and Sanson are evil and deserved disappear in the sky in episode 21. WHAT. No only that [[Out of Character]] for Nadia since she was friendly with Grandis in many episodes, but at this point of the series they did more heroic things than Nadia.
** The worst part, IMO, is in episode 23 when Nadia said Grandis, Hanson and Sanson are evil and deserved disappear in the sky in episode 21. WHAT. No only that [[Out of Character]] for Nadia since she was friendly with Grandis in many episodes, but at this point of the series they did more heroic things than Nadia.
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