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Being a [[Long Runner]], it's only expected to have [[Dethroning Moment of Suck (Darth Wiki)|a few slip-ups]] here and there. Let's hope its famed [[Negative Continuity]] can wipe these out of existence.
Being a [[Long Runner]], it's only expected to have [[Dethroning Moment of Suck|a few slip-ups]] here and there. Let's hope its famed [[Negative Continuity]] can wipe these out of existence.


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* "Alone Again, Natura-Diddily". {{spoiler|Maude}} [[Tonight Someone Dies|dies in a horrific, over the top manner]], leaving poor {{spoiler|Ned}} a wreck. Add on that the episode itself wasn't very funny, and you've got one of the most depressing episodes of the series.
* "Alone Again, Natura-Diddily". {{spoiler|Maude}} [[Tonight Someone Dies|dies in a horrific, over the top manner]], leaving poor {{spoiler|Ned}} a wreck. Add on that the episode itself wasn't very funny, and you've got one of the most depressing episodes of the series.
** What really propelled this episode into Dethroning Moment territory wasn't so much the fact that {{spoiler|Maude}} died. After all, the episode where {{spoiler|Bleeding Gums Murphy}} died was handled beautifully, and you'd think the series would be able to do an even better job with a semi-regular character. But no -- they took that setup and turned it into an episode about Homer setting up {{spoiler|Ned}} with a series of wacky and horrible new girlfriends. I almost hope the writers made this episode as a [[Take That]] towards {{spoiler|Maude's voice actress Maggie Roswell}}, because I simply can't imagine why on earth they would think it was a good idea to kill off {{spoiler|Maude}} and then gloss over her death in favor of comedic shenanigans involving Homer.
** What really propelled this episode into Dethroning Moment territory wasn't so much the fact that {{spoiler|Maude}} died. After all, the episode where {{spoiler|Bleeding Gums Murphy}} died was handled beautifully, and you'd think the series would be able to do an even better job with a semi-regular character. But no -- they took that setup and turned it into an episode about Homer setting up {{spoiler|Ned}} with a series of wacky and horrible new girlfriends. I almost hope the writers made this episode as a [[Take That]] towards {{spoiler|Maude's voice actress Maggie Roswell}}, because I simply can't imagine why on earth they would think it was a good idea to kill off {{spoiler|Maude}} and then gloss over her death in favor of comedic shenanigans involving Homer.
* "The Seven-Beer Snitch". For me, this was the episode that pretty much signaled [[Jumping the Shark|the shark was nearby]]. It had a few good laughs here and there (even though it hit us over the head with [[Were Still Relevant Dammit]]), but I'm afraid [[Batman Forever|it just raised too many questions]]. And these are them: How do you turn a weirdly shaped concert hall into a prison? How come Homer's friends and acquaintances were able to get prison warden jobs just like that? How come they shaved Homer's head even though he has very little hair to begin with? How come the [[Genre Savvy|law and order savvy]] Lisa didn't come to her father's rescue? How come Bart was so dumb in this episode? And who green-lit this episode? Don't get me wrong; I like the zany humor the Simpsons are famous for, but there are [[Even Nerds Have Standards|limits]].
* "The Seven-Beer Snitch". For me, this was the episode that pretty much signaled [[Jumping the Shark|the shark was nearby]]. It had a few good laughs here and there (even though it hit us over the head with [[We're Still Relevant, Dammit!]]), but I'm afraid [[Batman Forever|it just raised too many questions]]. And these are them: How do you turn a weirdly shaped concert hall into a prison? How come Homer's friends and acquaintances were able to get prison warden jobs just like that? How come they shaved Homer's head even though he has very little hair to begin with? How come the [[Genre Savvy|law and order savvy]] Lisa didn't come to her father's rescue? How come Bart was so dumb in this episode? And who green-lit this episode? Don't get me wrong; I like the zany humor the Simpsons are famous for, but there are [[Even Nerds Have Standards|limits]].
* ''E-I-E-I-(Annoyed Grunt)'': The plot itself is pretty funny, but after a while you realize that Homer never used to be ''that stupid''. [[Fridge Horror|Soon enough he'll need a wheelchair in]] [[Flanderization|season 25.]]
* ''E-I-E-I-(Annoyed Grunt)'': The plot itself is pretty funny, but after a while you realize that Homer never used to be ''that stupid''. [[Fridge Horror|Soon enough he'll need a wheelchair in]] [[Flanderization|season 25.]]
* "Homer vs. Dignity". The infamous scene in which [[But You Screw One Goat!|Homer is anally raped by a panda bear]]. Not that the rest of the episode was any better ([[The Other Wiki]] even notes on the page for it that it's often considered [[wikipedia:Homer vs. Dignity|one of the show's worst episodes]]), but that one scene made me so disgusted that I can't even go back to watch classics from the 90's, let alone anything made since.
* "Homer vs. Dignity". The infamous scene in which [[But You Screw One Goat!|Homer is anally raped by a panda bear]]. Not that the rest of the episode was any better ([[The Other Wiki]] even notes on the page for it that it's often considered [[wikipedia:Homer vs. Dignity|one of the show's worst episodes]]), but that one scene made me so disgusted that I can't even go back to watch classics from the 90's, let alone anything made since.
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** Just a minor thing, but the thing that pissed me off most about that episode was the fact Otto's fiance' has a hissy fit at him inviting Poison to play at their wedding. [[Sarcasm Mode|Yes, because noone wants Poison to play at their wedding. The thought is just absurd.]]
** Just a minor thing, but the thing that pissed me off most about that episode was the fact Otto's fiance' has a hissy fit at him inviting Poison to play at their wedding. [[Sarcasm Mode|Yes, because noone wants Poison to play at their wedding. The thought is just absurd.]]
* ''Mypods and Broomsticks'', the episode that involves a small Muslim family moving near the Simpson family and Bart becomes friends with the boy in the family. Everyone already knows how ignorant and stupid Homer has been for years, but does it really justify Homer believing that the family are freaking terrorists, based on their religion and the silly stereotypes dramas play on TV? This was just sinking to a low beyond any level that existed.
* ''Mypods and Broomsticks'', the episode that involves a small Muslim family moving near the Simpson family and Bart becomes friends with the boy in the family. Everyone already knows how ignorant and stupid Homer has been for years, but does it really justify Homer believing that the family are freaking terrorists, based on their religion and the silly stereotypes dramas play on TV? This was just sinking to a low beyond any level that existed.
** While the previously mentioned plot about the Muslim family wasn't great, one of the reasons that I don't watch any of the new Simpsons episodes is because of the episode's other plot. It involves [[Creator's Pet|Lisa]] getting a new "MyPhone" from "Mapple", which is run by Steve Mobs ([[My Immortal|geddit?]]). It's just a bunch of stale, bland, unfunny pop-culture references. This episode is pretty much just the boring epitome of [[Were Still Relevant Dammit|"We're Still Relevant, Dammit!" ]]
** While the previously mentioned plot about the Muslim family wasn't great, one of the reasons that I don't watch any of the new Simpsons episodes is because of the episode's other plot. It involves [[Creator's Pet|Lisa]] getting a new "MyPhone" from "Mapple", which is run by Steve Mobs ([[My Immortal|geddit?]]). It's just a bunch of stale, bland, unfunny pop-culture references. This episode is pretty much just the boring epitome of [[We're Still Relevant, Dammit!|"We're Still Relevant, Dammit!" ]]
* "Million Dollar Maybe," the one with a subplot where Lisa buys a Nintendo Wii for Grandpa and the other people at the Retirement Home. As a result of playing the Wii they start to get more energetic and demanding. So the [[Jerkass]] employees there [[Moral Event Horizon|"destroy it to make their own jobs easier"]]. When Lisa calls them out on this they coldly tell her off, and then... Nothing! That's it! The subplot is dropped leaving a message of "Hey old people, this is what you have to look forward to, fuck you." I have never been able to enjoy a recent Simpsons episode since.
* "Million Dollar Maybe," the one with a subplot where Lisa buys a Nintendo Wii for Grandpa and the other people at the Retirement Home. As a result of playing the Wii they start to get more energetic and demanding. So the [[Jerkass]] employees there [[Moral Event Horizon|"destroy it to make their own jobs easier"]]. When Lisa calls them out on this they coldly tell her off, and then... Nothing! That's it! The subplot is dropped leaving a message of "Hey old people, this is what you have to look forward to, fuck you." I have never been able to enjoy a recent Simpsons episode since.
* A lot of people hate ''That '90s Show'' because it fucks with canon, but I hate it because it made me unbearably angry with Marge. In the flashback we are shown that Homer worked a job he hated so that he could support Marge and pay for her to attend college. How does Marge repay him for this unbelievable kindness? She belittles him, pretty much cheats on him and then dumps him for her tool of a professor because "he embarrasses her". Now she does see the error of her ways but she only returns to him after he becomes a rich and successful musician so we get the [[Unfortunate Implications]] that that's the only reason she is returning. Now Homer Simpson is far from a perfect husband but he has made it clear over and over again that he loves Marge more than anything and this episode was the first I ever questioned what does he see in her? You know you've made someone unlikeable when Homer comes across as more mature and responsible than them.
* A lot of people hate ''That '90s Show'' because it fucks with canon, but I hate it because it made me unbearably angry with Marge. In the flashback we are shown that Homer worked a job he hated so that he could support Marge and pay for her to attend college. How does Marge repay him for this unbelievable kindness? She belittles him, pretty much cheats on him and then dumps him for her tool of a professor because "he embarrasses her". Now she does see the error of her ways but she only returns to him after he becomes a rich and successful musician so we get the [[Unfortunate Implications]] that that's the only reason she is returning. Now Homer Simpson is far from a perfect husband but he has made it clear over and over again that he loves Marge more than anything and this episode was the first I ever questioned what does he see in her? You know you've made someone unlikeable when Homer comes across as more mature and responsible than them.
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* Dear FSM Almighty, "Lisa the Simpson". Basic plot: Lisa finds out that the family has a gene that basically makes you go through Alzheimer's around age eight. At the end of the episode, it turns out that it's only on the Y chromosome, and thus, only men can get it. Let's disregard the incredibly faulty ideas about genetics this episode has, the continuity that prior showed Bart and Homer being [[Book Dumb]] and having a crayon lodged in his brain, respectively, as well as successful automaker and inventor Herb Powell being a Simpson, and Abe Simpson demonstrating extreme battlefield competence, and simply note that it ends on the note that all men in the Simpsons family are doomed to basically become drooling idiots and there's nothing they can do about it. But not Lisa, so apparently this is a happy ending. Yep, Bart is never going to have a decent career and he's probably going to fail at every endeavor, and Homer was destined to that fate from the start, but Lisa can solve that brainteaser. Whoop-de-friggin'-doo. The worst part is that they could have had it end with Lisa accepting the gene, and Homer for giving it to her. But no-oo. Lisa must be Always Right.
* Dear FSM Almighty, "Lisa the Simpson". Basic plot: Lisa finds out that the family has a gene that basically makes you go through Alzheimer's around age eight. At the end of the episode, it turns out that it's only on the Y chromosome, and thus, only men can get it. Let's disregard the incredibly faulty ideas about genetics this episode has, the continuity that prior showed Bart and Homer being [[Book Dumb]] and having a crayon lodged in his brain, respectively, as well as successful automaker and inventor Herb Powell being a Simpson, and Abe Simpson demonstrating extreme battlefield competence, and simply note that it ends on the note that all men in the Simpsons family are doomed to basically become drooling idiots and there's nothing they can do about it. But not Lisa, so apparently this is a happy ending. Yep, Bart is never going to have a decent career and he's probably going to fail at every endeavor, and Homer was destined to that fate from the start, but Lisa can solve that brainteaser. Whoop-de-friggin'-doo. The worst part is that they could have had it end with Lisa accepting the gene, and Homer for giving it to her. But no-oo. Lisa must be Always Right.
** Pretty much agree on what you said. It seemed that everything's okay as long as Lisa's happy. If it's any consolation to you, the episode showing that Homer had a crayon in his brain was aired after this episode, and the Simpson Gene was never mentioned again. For once, thanks [[Negative Continuity]].
** Pretty much agree on what you said. It seemed that everything's okay as long as Lisa's happy. If it's any consolation to you, the episode showing that Homer had a crayon in his brain was aired after this episode, and the Simpson Gene was never mentioned again. For once, thanks [[Negative Continuity]].
* While I quite enjoy even the most notorious episodes, the one episode that pissed me off in the show's 22 (soon to be 23) seasons is "HOMЯ" where Homer gets the crayon removed from his head, making him much smarter. The episode starts out good, but totally goes to hell at the end of the second act, where he tries to help the Power Plant by giving a safety report, but accidentally gets it shut down for maintenance, with Mr. Burns nonchalantly breaking them the news. What follows is the most contrived version of [[Flowers for Algernon Syndrome]] syndrome I've ever seen. All of his friends [[Took a Level In Jerkass|hate them over a sacking that]] [[Wall Banger (Darth Wiki)|wasn't even his intention]], the town shuns him just because everybody else is an idiot, and Homer himself decides to get Moe to put back the crayon, even though he's already formed a bond with the always-smart (if not always butting in) Lisa. How the fuck did this get an Emmy when [[The Powerpuff Girls]] and [[Futurama]] did not?
* While I quite enjoy even the most notorious episodes, the one episode that pissed me off in the show's 22 (soon to be 23) seasons is "HOMЯ" where Homer gets the crayon removed from his head, making him much smarter. The episode starts out good, but totally goes to hell at the end of the second act, where he tries to help the Power Plant by giving a safety report, but accidentally gets it shut down for maintenance, with Mr. Burns nonchalantly breaking them the news. What follows is the most contrived version of [[Flowers for Algernon Syndrome]] syndrome I've ever seen. All of his friends [[Took a Level in Jerkass|hate them over a sacking that]] [[Wall Banger (Darth Wiki)|wasn't even his intention]], the town shuns him just because everybody else is an idiot, and Homer himself decides to get Moe to put back the crayon, even though he's already formed a bond with the always-smart (if not always butting in) Lisa. How the fuck did this get an Emmy when [[The Powerpuff Girls]] and [[Futurama]] did not?
* ''Double, Double, Boy in Trouble'', the one where Bart has taken his obnoxiousness [[Up to Eleven]], then he switches places with a rich boy who looks just like him for a cheap [[Prince and Pauper|Prince And The Pauper]] plot. When he literally has gone too far, after 1.) Losing his parents $50,000. 2.) Ruining Marge's best dress by shooting cat urine onto it. 3.) Starting a fight with Lisa in the car. He finally, during the party Lenny was throwing for everyone, unleashes an army of vacuum robots on the party patrons. After all this, he gets punished. Later in the episode though, when his doppleganger is at his place? Marge completely forgets that Bart is being punished. That's the moment right there--Bart gets off as a [[Karma Houdini]] yet again.
* ''Double, Double, Boy in Trouble'', the one where Bart has taken his obnoxiousness [[Up to Eleven]], then he switches places with a rich boy who looks just like him for a cheap [[Prince and Pauper|Prince And The Pauper]] plot. When he literally has gone too far, after 1.) Losing his parents $50,000. 2.) Ruining Marge's best dress by shooting cat urine onto it. 3.) Starting a fight with Lisa in the car. He finally, during the party Lenny was throwing for everyone, unleashes an army of vacuum robots on the party patrons. After all this, he gets punished. Later in the episode though, when his doppleganger is at his place? Marge completely forgets that Bart is being punished. That's the moment right there--Bart gets off as a [[Karma Houdini]] yet again.
* "MoneyBART" has an opening sequence directed by graffiti artist Banksy, who interpreted the usually-something-we-have-made-fun-of-thing, the Korean animating process, [[Deconstruction|as a fucking sweatshop]]. The result is [http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DX1iplQQJTo this utter clusterfuck.] No matter what you may think of the Ke$ha opening, this one is the one to blame for being nothing but [[Shoot the Shaggy Dog|pointlessly depressing]].
* "MoneyBART" has an opening sequence directed by graffiti artist Banksy, who interpreted the usually-something-we-have-made-fun-of-thing, the Korean animating process, [[Deconstruction|as a fucking sweatshop]]. The result is [http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DX1iplQQJTo this utter clusterfuck.] No matter what you may think of the Ke$ha opening, this one is the one to blame for being nothing but [[Shoot the Shaggy Dog|pointlessly depressing]].
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** Justin_Brett: And here's the [[Blatant Lies|best part]]. At one point Lisa says if she can remember three moments where Bart was nice to her, she'll lift the restraining order. Well, no problem, right? Most fans could name three off the top of their head (including me: Lisa It's Your Birthday, the Hockey episode, and buying Bleeding Gums Murphy's record for her), then the character who experienced those things herself should have no problem, right? Nope. She thinks as hard as she can, and can only come up with two, both of which only came from that episode. [[Negative Continuity]] shouldn't count when it's only being used to let some poor kid be a punching bag for a little more.
** Justin_Brett: And here's the [[Blatant Lies|best part]]. At one point Lisa says if she can remember three moments where Bart was nice to her, she'll lift the restraining order. Well, no problem, right? Most fans could name three off the top of their head (including me: Lisa It's Your Birthday, the Hockey episode, and buying Bleeding Gums Murphy's record for her), then the character who experienced those things herself should have no problem, right? Nope. She thinks as hard as she can, and can only come up with two, both of which only came from that episode. [[Negative Continuity]] shouldn't count when it's only being used to let some poor kid be a punching bag for a little more.
* Like most of the current episodes, the quality of ''[[Treehouse of Horror]]'' is in decline, but most have their moments. In "XXI", the first segment about board games was alright, the second one with Marge and Homer rescuing the drowning man said to have murdered the people on a previous boat was pretty good, except when Homer goes [[Ax Crazy]], and it turns out to be Maggie's imagination but the [[Twilight (novel)|Twilight]] parody was the worst. In "Tweenlight", Lisa falls for a young vampire after he stops a bus from hitting her... and a bike...and a car...and another car...[[Overly Long Gag|and a segway]]. As Lisa and Edmund jump between trees, Milhouse sees this, becomes insanely jealous and turns into...a poodle. Edmund comes to the Simpsons' house with his father, Dracula (why not?). Lisa and Edmund fly of, and Homer and Dracula chase them to "Dracula-La land", and ask [[Sesame Street|the Count]] for help. Edmund wants to bite Lisa, but Homer saves the day by killing them when they drink his blood due to the cholesterol in his blood. Fat jokes are made, Otto is a stoner and the Simpsons are incredibly embarrassing. Who could have thought a Twilight parody could be so bad?
* Like most of the current episodes, the quality of ''[[Treehouse of Horror]]'' is in decline, but most have their moments. In "XXI", the first segment about board games was alright, the second one with Marge and Homer rescuing the drowning man said to have murdered the people on a previous boat was pretty good, except when Homer goes [[Ax Crazy]], and it turns out to be Maggie's imagination but the [[Twilight (novel)|Twilight]] parody was the worst. In "Tweenlight", Lisa falls for a young vampire after he stops a bus from hitting her... and a bike...and a car...and another car...[[Overly Long Gag|and a segway]]. As Lisa and Edmund jump between trees, Milhouse sees this, becomes insanely jealous and turns into...a poodle. Edmund comes to the Simpsons' house with his father, Dracula (why not?). Lisa and Edmund fly of, and Homer and Dracula chase them to "Dracula-La land", and ask [[Sesame Street|the Count]] for help. Edmund wants to bite Lisa, but Homer saves the day by killing them when they drink his blood due to the cholesterol in his blood. Fat jokes are made, Otto is a stoner and the Simpsons are incredibly embarrassing. Who could have thought a Twilight parody could be so bad?
** Smapti: What turned me off this episode is when the Edward character, out of the blue and apropos to nothing in particular, shouts "You are tearing me apart, Lisa!" at the top of his lungs. Inserting a Tommy Wiseau joke into a sketch that has nothing whatsoever to do with ''[[The Room]]'' is just lazy writing and smacks of [[Were Still Relevant Dammit]].
** Smapti: What turned me off this episode is when the Edward character, out of the blue and apropos to nothing in particular, shouts "You are tearing me apart, Lisa!" at the top of his lungs. Inserting a Tommy Wiseau joke into a sketch that has nothing whatsoever to do with ''[[The Room]]'' is just lazy writing and smacks of [[We're Still Relevant, Dammit!]].
*** He didn't even say the line to the actual Lisa who was standing right in front of him, making the moment all the more frustrating.
*** He didn't even say the line to the actual Lisa who was standing right in front of him, making the moment all the more frustrating.
* ''The Good, the Sad, and the Drugly''. Bart and Milhouse pull a prank which involves screwing the nails out of the school and causing walls to fall off. Milhouse accepts the fall for it, and gets suspended while Bart doesn't come clean. Okay, so then Bart promises to visit Milhouse every day until his suspension is up. He then falls for a girl named Jenny, and they start spending a lot of time together, until Bart forgets to visit Milhouse on a rainy night. As punishment, he then invades Bart's life in a very harsh way, until eventually he forces Bart to confess to Jenny about how he isn't who she thought he was. And she dumps Bart, leaving him as a crying mess. Then Milhouse pretty much [[Karma Houdini|makes up with Bart with no reprimandation]]. I felt so bad for Bart there, he made a simple mistake and then it just gets jacked. [[Sarcasm Mode|Thanks, Milhouse, we all know that people like it when you cause your best friend to lose a relationship.]]
* ''The Good, the Sad, and the Drugly''. Bart and Milhouse pull a prank which involves screwing the nails out of the school and causing walls to fall off. Milhouse accepts the fall for it, and gets suspended while Bart doesn't come clean. Okay, so then Bart promises to visit Milhouse every day until his suspension is up. He then falls for a girl named Jenny, and they start spending a lot of time together, until Bart forgets to visit Milhouse on a rainy night. As punishment, he then invades Bart's life in a very harsh way, until eventually he forces Bart to confess to Jenny about how he isn't who she thought he was. And she dumps Bart, leaving him as a crying mess. Then Milhouse pretty much [[Karma Houdini|makes up with Bart with no reprimandation]]. I felt so bad for Bart there, he made a simple mistake and then it just gets jacked. [[Sarcasm Mode|Thanks, Milhouse, we all know that people like it when you cause your best friend to lose a relationship.]]
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