Double Standard Abuse (Female on Male): Difference between revisions
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* There is a strip in ''Sexy Losers'' where the author reverses the genders of Kenta and his horny mom (leaving them a teenage girl being sexually molested by her middle aged father). The audience he's presenting his gender-flipped version to beats the crap out of him. Making sure to [[Don't Explain the Joke|completely point out]] the [[Double Standard]] that people let him get away with it due to this trope, he even says in the final panel "It's the ''same damn joke''!" |
* There is a strip in ''Sexy Losers'' where the author reverses the genders of Kenta and his horny mom (leaving them a teenage girl being sexually molested by her middle aged father). The audience he's presenting his gender-flipped version to beats the crap out of him. Making sure to [[Don't Explain the Joke|completely point out]] the [[Double Standard]] that people let him get away with it due to this trope, he even says in the final panel "It's the ''same damn joke''!" |
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* ''[[PvP (webcomic)|PvP]]'' plays with it [https://web.archive.org/web/20110717215251/http://www.pvponline.com/2010/02/23/little-hand-for-the-big-lady/ here] and for a few other strips - Jade is genuinely surprised Cole and Brent hate being play-punched by her. The entire [[Double Standard]] is brought up [https://web.archive.org/web/20110717215252/http://www.pvponline.com/2010/02/24/touchy-subject/ in the next strip]. Jade (''very'' grudgingly... and all the while maintaining that the men are being ridiculous for even protesting her punching them in the first place) agrees to stop. |
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* [[Tear Jerker|Heartbreakingly]] averted in ''[[Digger]]''. {{spoiler|The reason Ed--by leagues the gentlest character in the strip, mind--was exiled was because, after constant abuse from his wife, he found out she was also abusing their child, and killed her while she slept. Then being hyenas the females are stronger--and the one's with combat training--he wouldn't have stood a chance in a fair fight. Ed is a male but to hyenas gender roles are reversed, it's possibly more accurate to think of this as a male abusing a female. Regardless, the tribal elders were completely on Ed's side but failed to prevent his exile. They still feel guilty for that, and the main reason Ed was still exiled even though the elders thought he was in the right was that (much like British law) tribal law made no allowances for the situation; if anything like this had happened before, there were enough key details missing that the law was predicated on the notion that wives just plain don't provoke their husbands into killing them, and they certainly don't do so to a degree that makes their husband the good guy.}} |
* [[Tear Jerker|Heartbreakingly]] averted in ''[[Digger]]''. {{spoiler|The reason Ed--by leagues the gentlest character in the strip, mind--was exiled was because, after constant abuse from his wife, he found out she was also abusing their child, and killed her while she slept. Then being hyenas the females are stronger--and the one's with combat training--he wouldn't have stood a chance in a fair fight. Ed is a male but to hyenas gender roles are reversed, it's possibly more accurate to think of this as a male abusing a female. Regardless, the tribal elders were completely on Ed's side but failed to prevent his exile. They still feel guilty for that, and the main reason Ed was still exiled even though the elders thought he was in the right was that (much like British law) tribal law made no allowances for the situation; if anything like this had happened before, there were enough key details missing that the law was predicated on the notion that wives just plain don't provoke their husbands into killing them, and they certainly don't do so to a degree that makes their husband the good guy.}} |
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* ''[[Looking for Group]]'' has an extreme example in that when Pella cuts off Richard's hand some fans actually started ''shipping them''! Admittedly his hand got better, and all things considered, her doing that was about as significant to him as a slap on the wrist. Richard seems to find her methods of dealing with him amusing. |
* ''[[Looking for Group]]'' has an extreme example in that when Pella cuts off Richard's hand some fans actually started ''shipping them''! Admittedly his hand got better, and all things considered, her doing that was about as significant to him as a slap on the wrist. Richard seems to find her methods of dealing with him amusing. |
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* ''[[Bittersweet Candy Bowl]]'', Lucy's past habits of violence. {{spoiler|She got better}}. Also eventually deconstructed with how this affected Mike's opinion of her in the long run; he becomes ''very'' bitter, to the point where {{spoiler|his repeated rejections and denials of her feelings for him become emotionally abusive}}. |
* ''[[Bittersweet Candy Bowl]]'', Lucy's past habits of violence. {{spoiler|She got better}}. Also eventually deconstructed with how this affected Mike's opinion of her in the long run; he becomes ''very'' bitter, to the point where {{spoiler|his repeated rejections and denials of her feelings for him become emotionally abusive}}. |
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** You'd have trouble convincing a lot of the [[Fan Dumb|fans]] of Lucy's misbehavior though. |
** You'd have trouble convincing a lot of the [[Fan Dumb|fans]] of Lucy's misbehavior though. |
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* The ''[[Ciem Webcomic Series]]'' averts it |
* The ''[[Ciem Webcomic Series]]'' averts it ''hard''. Both sexes are treated exactly the same, with [[Humans Are the Real Monsters|everyone]] being either a [[Butt Monkey|Complete Pincushion]] or [[Complete Monster]]. Poison Dart Eddie's attempts to drug Candi and Amy stand out as particularly contemptible. Candi only gets off the hook for stinging him because she was trying to spare other women from becoming victims of a serial rapist. Her burning Don to death becomes a haunting guilt that terrorizes her throughout her life, in spite the fact that he had already tried to burn ''her'' to death ''and'' tried to rape her. However, Kelsea Linney blowing up the Levens family's house is depicted as her crossing the [[Moral Event Horizon]]. She gets no sympathy for the false stalking allegations she makes against Denny either, especially since she stole his debit card ''for no reason''. |
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** Played a ''little'' straighter in chapter 24 than elsewhere, but only because the Kerpher Gang is made up of [[Paedo Hunt|child molesters]]. |
** Played a ''little'' straighter in chapter 24 than elsewhere, but only because the Kerpher Gang is made up of [[Paedo Hunt|child molesters]]. |
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** The [[Continuity Reboot|book]] is also a bit straighter, as Candi discovers after Don's death that [[It Gets Easier]] when she snuffs a vampire. Granted, it was [[Shoot the Dog|self defense]] both times, and she still [[Thou Shalt Not Kill|despised having to kill]], but she is fully aware of the slippery slope she's on. |
** The [[Continuity Reboot|book]] is also a bit straighter, as Candi discovers after Don's death that [[It Gets Easier]] when she snuffs a vampire. Granted, it was [[Shoot the Dog|self defense]] both times, and she still [[Thou Shalt Not Kill|despised having to kill]], but she is fully aware of the slippery slope she's on. |
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* Dan Of [[Footloose]] is quite often smacked about the head by his sister, at no point does he retaliate. None of the others seem to have a problem with this. |
* Dan Of [[Footloose]] is quite often smacked about the head by his sister, at no point does he retaliate. None of the others seem to have a problem with this. |
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* In ''[[The Whiteboard]]'', the male characters are quite free to beat up other male character and the female characters are quite free to beat up male characters. [http://www.the-whiteboard.com/autotwb1449.html This strip] and the one after it shows that Pirta hit Doc hard enough for him to have another near death experience. |
* In ''[[The Whiteboard]]'', the male characters are quite free to beat up other male character and the female characters are quite free to beat up male characters. [http://www.the-whiteboard.com/autotwb1449.html This strip] and the one after it shows that Pirta hit Doc hard enough for him to have another near death experience. |
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* Toyed with in [[Homestuck]], though not so much in-story as in the [[Fan Dumb|fandom's interpretations of it.]] [[Magnificent Bastard|Vriska]] harasses and torments [[Extreme Doormat|Tavros]] from the very start of the troll's arc, having {{spoiler|paralyzed him}} and then {{spoiler|demanding he [[Crosses the Line Twice|apologize for being handicapped]] }} because he was ''weighing her down.'' This is all presented up-front without comment, since most of the trolls are somewhat [[Blue and Orange Morality|morally dubious]] by human standards. But some fans have responded that Vriska's actions were justified, since she was [[Cruel to Be Kind|'only trying to help.']] But [[Double Standard|if the genders were reversed]], most readers would find Vriska's psychological abuse to be outright unacceptable, opening up a whole minefield of [[Unfortunate Implications]]. |
* Toyed with in ''[[Homestuck]]'', though not so much in-story as in the [[Fan Dumb|fandom's interpretations of it.]] [[Magnificent Bastard|Vriska]] harasses and torments [[Extreme Doormat|Tavros]] from the very start of the troll's arc, having {{spoiler|paralyzed him}} and then {{spoiler|demanding he [[Crosses the Line Twice|apologize for being handicapped]] }} because he was ''weighing her down.'' This is all presented up-front without comment, since most of the trolls are somewhat [[Blue and Orange Morality|morally dubious]] by human standards. But some fans have responded that Vriska's actions were justified, since she was [[Cruel to Be Kind|'only trying to help.']] But [[Double Standard|if the genders were reversed]], most readers would find Vriska's psychological abuse to be outright unacceptable, opening up a whole minefield of [[Unfortunate Implications]]. |
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* In ''[[Greg (webcomic)|Greg]]'' there are many instances where Greg gets abused by women. [http://gregcomic.com/2012/01/02/storyline-a-silver-lining-part-15/ Here] he is, taking it in the family jewels. [http://gregcomic.com/2011/08/08/guilt-by-association-part-13/ Here] he is getting his skull bashed in. |
* In ''[[Greg (webcomic)|Greg]]'' there are many instances where Greg gets abused by women. [http://gregcomic.com/2012/01/02/storyline-a-silver-lining-part-15/ Here] he is, taking it in the family jewels. [http://gregcomic.com/2011/08/08/guilt-by-association-part-13/ Here] he is getting his skull bashed in. |
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* [[Dumbing of Age]]: Joyce, an ''extremely'' sheltered girl entering college, honestly believes punching [[All Men Are Perverts|Joe]] has no effect as men are stronger than women. He very much does not think this is so. |
* ''[[Dumbing of Age]]'': Joyce, an ''extremely'' sheltered girl entering college, honestly believes punching [[All Men Are Perverts|Joe]] has no effect as men are stronger than women. He very much does not think this is so. |
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{{quote|'''Joe''': Pray for ''me?'' Maybe I'll pray for ''you'' to learn it's ''not cool'' to ''punch people in the face!'' |
{{quote|'''Joe''': Pray for ''me?'' Maybe I'll pray for ''you'' to learn it's ''not cool'' to ''punch people in the face!'' |
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''[[Beat]]'' |
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'''Joyce''': But... but... guys can't ''actually'' get hurt by a girl. Guys are, like, ''strong.'' }} |
'''Joyce''': But... but... guys can't ''actually'' get hurt by a girl. Guys are, like, ''strong.'' }} |
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