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** In both the film and the book, neither Inigo nor Fezzik are particularly bright. Only the film version of Vizzini comes off as an idiot, though—the book Vizzini is legitimately portrayed as a twisted genius (who, in the end, gets tricked into outsmarting himself).
* Blaggut, the illiterate, less-than-bright searat in ''[[Redwall|The Bellmaker]]'', the only vermin in the series to survive a [[Heel Face Turn]]. He's initially paired with the captain from his ship, who obeys the usual [[Exclusively Evil]] role of vermin, but eventually {{spoiler|kills him when the captain murders the abbey's Badger Mother}}.
* The ''[[Discworld]]'' novels will occasionally feature a stupid, more sympathetic villain (Banjo of ''[[Discworld/Hogfather|Hogfather]]'', Lemon of ''[[Discworld/Soul Music (novel)|Soul Music]]'', and Mr. Tulip of ''[[Discworld/The Truth|The Truth]]'' all leap to mind) who gets a more favourable end, but this is more to show how easily stupid people can be led astray. The heroes are usually quite intelligent.
** Possibly played straight with Brutha from ''[[Discworld/Small Gods|Small Gods]]''. Despite his fantastic memory, he is considered a bit dim by most other characters. Nevertheless, he is compassionate and noble, and is the only one of Om's many worshipers to actually ''believe'' in him. It may be that his simplicity is the reason he never questioned what he was taught to believe (as opposed to everyone else, who simply go through the motions out of tradition and fear).
** This is explicitly subverted with the characters of Carrot and Vimes. Carrot is a good natured, kind, and generally optimistic person who is often described as "simple". After this description, however, the books never forget to mention that [[Good Is Not Dumb|"simple" doesn't mean stupid]], and as the books go on it is clear that Carrot has an incredible deductive mind. Vimes, on the other hand is a cynical grouch who has little use for most people around him, but it's made clear that he truly loves his city and those who work under him, not to mention his wife and son.
{{quote|'''Angua:''' Someone has to be very complex indeed to be as simple as Carrot.}}
*** Vimes is often regarded by others as not very bright, but he makes up for it through a combination of obstinacy and being [[Dangerously Genre Savvy]].
*** You should also keep in mind that mostMost of the people who believe that Vimes is stupid believe it because they're classist assholes who can't believe that a former pauper could outwit them. Except for Lord Vetinari (and Vimnes' wife Sybil), this "rich=smart" assumption they run on has been proven to be almost universally wrong.
** Cohen and his 'horde' from ''[[Discworld/Interesting Times|Interesting Times]]'' can't exactly be called smart (except for 'teach'), but they '''are''' extremely skilled fighters.
* In ''[[Harry Potter (novel)|Harry Potter]]'', Ron is frequently shown to not be the brightest of the bunch but is also Harry's best friend. Also, to certain extent, Harry himself, who always does the [[Idiot Ball|most idiotic and suicidal possible action]] to solve each and every plot throughout the books.
** Contrast them with Voldemort, who was described as having a terrifyingly keen intellect as a student and was even said by ''Dumbledore'' himself to have been one of the most brilliant students Hogwarts ever had.