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** The point was probably that the AIS rule was ridiculous in and of itself. |
** The point was probably that the AIS rule was ridiculous in and of itself. |
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* The extent to which this show started to employ the [[Parenting the Husband]] trope in the later seasons. This alone is annoying in and of itself. |
* The extent to which this show started to employ the [[Parenting the Husband]] trope in the later seasons. This alone is annoying in and of itself. |
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* [[Abuse Is Okay When |
* [[Double Standard Abuse (Female on Male)|Abuse Is Okay When It's Female On Male]]. The fact that the show kept using this trope and portraying it as being justified was irksome and just plain bad. If Ray and Debra's roles were reversed, the studio audience probably wouldn't be cheering so much. |
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* Debra's obvious emotional instability never being addressed is something that just bugs me. Given that on EVERY episode she portrayed as being nitpicky, very insecure, whiny and always unsatisfied w/the majority of things that Ray does, doesn't anyone else think that DEBRA is the problem and not Ray? How often could somebody sit there and be criticized for things that aren't that important or for things that aren't actually THAT BAD by a loved one before they seriously considered that their loved one might have a mental or emotional illness? |
* Debra's obvious emotional instability never being addressed is something that just bugs me. Given that on EVERY episode she portrayed as being nitpicky, very insecure, whiny and always unsatisfied w/the majority of things that Ray does, doesn't anyone else think that DEBRA is the problem and not Ray? How often could somebody sit there and be criticized for things that aren't that important or for things that aren't actually THAT BAD by a loved one before they seriously considered that their loved one might have a mental or emotional illness? |
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** Ray Romano was at least aware of this, if Ray Barone wasn't. In an HBO comedy showcase after ''[[Everybody Loves Raymond]]'' was off the air, he said something like "You have no idea how many times on the show I wanted to say 'Shut the fuck up, Debra!'" |
** Ray Romano was at least aware of this, if Ray Barone wasn't. In an HBO comedy showcase after ''[[Everybody Loves Raymond]]'' was off the air, he said something like "You have no idea how many times on the show I wanted to say 'Shut the fuck up, Debra!'" |
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* The attempts to justify Debra's behavior. It really needs to be said that if the roles were reversed and Ray was the abuser, ''no one'' would be trying to defend him. But due to [[Double Standard |
* The attempts to justify Debra's behavior. It really needs to be said that if the roles were reversed and Ray was the abuser, ''no one'' would be trying to defend him. But due to [[Double Standard]]s, apparently Debra is innocent. [[Double Standard Abuse (Female on Male)|Abuse Is Okay When It's Female On Male]] indeed... |
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** Not innocent. A flawed character on a show filled with flawed characters whose flaws are generally for the purposes of humor, and not meant to be taken too seriously. |
** Not innocent. A flawed character on a show filled with flawed characters whose flaws are generally for the purposes of humor, and not meant to be taken too seriously. |
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*** Spousal abuse is not meant to be taken seriously? [[Unfortunate Implications]] abound. |
*** Spousal abuse is not meant to be taken seriously? [[Unfortunate Implications]] abound. |
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