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{{quote|''[''[[Star Trek]]'' fans] need to do what us ''[[Highlander]]'' fans and a great majority of ''[[Star Wars]]'' fans do: If you don't like it, get angry over it for a very brief period of time, then go into a severe drinking fit, and then pretend the sequels you don't like don't exist! ... It's called selective amnesia, and it works wonders for nerds.''|[[The Spoony Experiment|Noah Antwiler]] on Trekkie reactions to the 2009 ''[[Star Trek (film)|Star Trek]]'' film}}
{{quote|''[''[[Star Trek]]'' fans] need to do what us ''[[Highlander]]'' fans and a great majority of ''[[Star Wars]]'' fans do: If you don't like it, get angry over it for a very brief period of time, then go into a severe drinking fit, and then pretend the sequels you don't like don't exist! ... It's called selective amnesia, and it works wonders for nerds.''|[[The Spoony Experiment|Noah Antwiler]] on Trekkie reactions to the 2009 ''[[Star Trek (film)|Star Trek]]'' film}}


Established movie franchises tend to have [[Discontinuity]] imposed on them, especially whenever [[Sequelitis|crappy sequels]] rear their ugly head.
Established movie franchises tend to have [[Fanon Discontinuity]] imposed on them, especially whenever [[Sequelitis|crappy sequels]] rear their ugly head.


Note 1: Do not include examples based only in adaptation. [[The Film of the Book|A movie adaptation]] can not be discontinued since it is not part of the continuity of the original. You can discontinue a sequel of the adaptation but not the actual adaptation. To a lesser degree you can discontinue ''parts'' of a movie.
Note 1: Do not include examples based only in adaptation. [[The Film of the Book|A movie adaptation]] can not be discontinued since it is not part of the continuity of the original. You can discontinue a sequel of the adaptation but not the actual adaptation. To a lesser degree you can discontinue ''parts'' of a movie.
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*** And now that Disney owns the rights to Star Wars, [[Canon Discontinuity|they agree]].
*** And now that Disney owns the rights to Star Wars, [[Canon Discontinuity|they agree]].
** Lucas mentioned that his work on ''[[Robot Chicken]]-Star Wars' was his way of apologizing to the fans for anything they don't like about the series. Apology accepted.
** Lucas mentioned that his work on ''[[Robot Chicken]]-Star Wars' was his way of apologizing to the fans for anything they don't like about the series. Apology accepted.
** [[Star Wars]] has ''all kinds'' of [[Discontinuity]] groups. Some say the Prequels and the Clone Wars movie never happened [[In-Universe]]. Others say that only the movies ever happened, and that the Expanded Universe is non-canon. Still others say that nothing after Empire Strikes Back happened. Then we get into the groups that dis the continuity in regards to certain parts of the Expanded Universe, like the Jedi Prince series, the [[New Jedi Order]] series, [[Star Wars Legacy|the Legacy era]], and so on.
** [[Star Wars]] has ''all kinds'' of [[Fanon Discontinuity]] groups. Some say the Prequels and the Clone Wars movie never happened [[In-Universe]]. Others say that only the movies ever happened, and that the Expanded Universe is non-canon. Still others say that nothing after Empire Strikes Back happened. Then we get into the groups that dis the continuity in regards to certain parts of the Expanded Universe, like the Jedi Prince series, the [[New Jedi Order]] series, [[Star Wars Legacy|the Legacy era]], and so on.
** Lucas once said that the Jedi, as seen in the prequels, were allowed to have sex, but ''weren't'' allowed to form attachments. Just about ''everyone'' has ignored this, from fans to EU creators, for obvious reasons<ref>Partially because it's not as fun writing fanfic if it's just sex, and partially because some people don't like the idea of sex without love, or even a strong "like".</ref>
** Lucas once said that the Jedi, as seen in the prequels, were allowed to have sex, but ''weren't'' allowed to form attachments. Just about ''everyone'' has ignored this, from fans to EU creators, for obvious reasons<ref>Partially because it's not as fun writing fanfic if it's just sex, and partially because some people don't like the idea of sex without love, or even a strong "like".</ref>
* While we're in [[George Lucas]] productions, fans who [[Hype Backlash|were frustrated]] with ''[[Indiana Jones and the Kingdom of the Crystal Skull]]'' (though like the ''Star Wars'' prequels, the expectations were really high after 19 years of waiting) try to ignore its existence.
* While we're in [[George Lucas]] productions, fans who [[Hype Backlash|were frustrated]] with ''[[Indiana Jones and the Kingdom of the Crystal Skull]]'' (though like the ''Star Wars'' prequels, the expectations were really high after 19 years of waiting) try to ignore its existence.
** There is also the fact that unlike [[Star Wars]], Indy's EU is fairly obscure, so it's no surprise many fans not only don't think of any but the movies as canon... they don't even ''know'' about the novels, comics (specially the ''terrible'' 80s Marvel comics), park rides, tabletop games and videogames. Opinion is perhaps more divided about the prequel TV series, the only non-movie installment that gets some references in fan fiction.
** There is also the fact that unlike [[Star Wars]], Indy's EU is fairly obscure, so it's no surprise many fans not only don't think of any but the movies as canon... they don't even ''know'' about the novels, comics (specially the ''terrible'' 80s Marvel comics), park rides, tabletop games and video games. Opinion is perhaps more divided about the prequel TV series, the only non-movie installment that gets some references in fan fiction.
* Some people also play Discontinuity on ''[[Batman and Robin (film)|Batman and Robin]].'' It's a different way, though. ''[[Batman and Robin (film)|Batman and Robin]]'' gets openly razzed. ''[[Batman Forever]],'' being neither like the first two films nor as outrageous as this [[Ink Stain Adaptation]], simply gets ignored.
* Some people also play Fanon Discontinuity on ''[[Batman and Robin (film)|Batman and Robin]].'' It's a different way, though. ''[[Batman and Robin (film)|Batman and Robin]]'' gets openly razzed. ''[[Batman Forever]],'' being neither like the first two films nor as outrageous as this [[Ink Stain Adaptation]], simply gets ignored.
* With ''[[The Pink Panther]]'' films, there are fans who only count the films [[Peter Sellers]] was in as canon. ''Trail of the Pink Panther'' is an interesting case here, since it was assembled from deleted scenes and flashbacks of Sellers two years after his death. If the film doesn't count on its own, then the deleted scenes can be seen as canon in their original context of material dropped from ''The Pink Panther Strikes Again''. Even MGM/UA has encouraged the Sellers-only approach on occasion; the ''Pink Panther Film Collection'' DVD box set from 2004 only included the Sellers films they owned the rights to. (They don't currently own the ''Return of...'' rights).
* With ''[[The Pink Panther]]'' films, there are fans who only count the films [[Peter Sellers]] was in as canon. ''Trail of the Pink Panther'' is an interesting case here, since it was assembled from deleted scenes and flashbacks of Sellers two years after his death. If the film doesn't count on its own, then the deleted scenes can be seen as canon in their original context of material dropped from ''The Pink Panther Strikes Again''. Even MGM/UA has encouraged the Sellers-only approach on occasion; the ''Pink Panther Film Collection'' DVD box set from 2004 only included the Sellers films they owned the rights to. (They don't currently own the ''Return of...'' rights).
* Many fans [http://proxy.espn.go.com/espn/page2/story?page=simmons/011207 declared] that ''[[Rocky V]]'' never happened, even before ''Rocky Balboa'' ([[Broad Strokes|mostly]]) [[Canon Discontinuity|ratified that judgment]]. [[Bill Simmons]] use of the phrase "never happened" might be the [[Trope Codifier]], or, at the very least, one of the more popular uses.
* Many fans [http://proxy.espn.go.com/espn/page2/story?page=simmons/011207 declared] that ''[[Rocky V]]'' never happened, even before ''Rocky Balboa'' ([[Broad Strokes|mostly]]) [[Canon Discontinuity|ratified that judgment]]. [[Bill Simmons]] use of the phrase "never happened" might be the [[Trope Codifier]], or, at the very least, one of the more popular uses.