Hate Sink: Difference between revisions

Content added Content deleted
(moved new examples to the end of their sections per standard guidelines, added missing markup, fixed MSWord punctuation, copyedits for readability)
Line 45: Line 45:
* [[Subverted Trope|Subverted]] [[Tragic Villain|tragically]] in ''[[ParaNorman]]''. {{spoiler|[[Hanging Judge|Judge Hopkins and the other Puritan citizens]] ''did'' [[Moral Event Horizon|cross the line]] by [[Would Hurt a Child|sentencing]] [[The Heavy|The Witch]]/[[Dark Magical Girl|Agatha Prenderghast]] [[Would Hurt a Child|to death]], showing nothing but [[Dissonant Serenity|callous dismissal]] over the whole thing, which led to [[Woobie, Destroyer of Worlds|Aggie]] [[Roaring Rampage of Revenge|viciously retaliating by transforming them into zombies, leading to Blithe Hollow's famous curse]].}} As it turns out later, {{spoiler|Hopkins did not do this out of [[For the Evulz|senseless cruelty]], but because [[Well-Intentioned Extremist|he wanted to protect his people]] and was afraid of Aggie's ability to speak to the dead (the [[Deliberate Values Dissonance|time period]] didn't help matters). The zombies [[My God, What Have I Done?|are crushed with guilt over this]], and the reason they help [[The Hero|Norman]] is [[The Atoner|to make up for the mess they've caused]].}} Their state, instead of being portrayed as a [[Catharsis Factor]], shows how [[Jerkass Woobie|tragic]] they are {{spoiler|and how [[He Who Fights Monsters|deranged]] {{spoiler|Aggie}} [[Revenge Before Reason|has become]]. Due to this, [[Nice Guy|Norman]] [[Talking the Monster to Death|talks her out of her rage]] in order for her and the zombies to finally pass away and end the curse once and for all.}}
* [[Subverted Trope|Subverted]] [[Tragic Villain|tragically]] in ''[[ParaNorman]]''. {{spoiler|[[Hanging Judge|Judge Hopkins and the other Puritan citizens]] ''did'' [[Moral Event Horizon|cross the line]] by [[Would Hurt a Child|sentencing]] [[The Heavy|The Witch]]/[[Dark Magical Girl|Agatha Prenderghast]] [[Would Hurt a Child|to death]], showing nothing but [[Dissonant Serenity|callous dismissal]] over the whole thing, which led to [[Woobie, Destroyer of Worlds|Aggie]] [[Roaring Rampage of Revenge|viciously retaliating by transforming them into zombies, leading to Blithe Hollow's famous curse]].}} As it turns out later, {{spoiler|Hopkins did not do this out of [[For the Evulz|senseless cruelty]], but because [[Well-Intentioned Extremist|he wanted to protect his people]] and was afraid of Aggie's ability to speak to the dead (the [[Deliberate Values Dissonance|time period]] didn't help matters). The zombies [[My God, What Have I Done?|are crushed with guilt over this]], and the reason they help [[The Hero|Norman]] is [[The Atoner|to make up for the mess they've caused]].}} Their state, instead of being portrayed as a [[Catharsis Factor]], shows how [[Jerkass Woobie|tragic]] they are {{spoiler|and how [[He Who Fights Monsters|deranged]] {{spoiler|Aggie}} [[Revenge Before Reason|has become]]. Due to this, [[Nice Guy|Norman]] [[Talking the Monster to Death|talks her out of her rage]] in order for her and the zombies to finally pass away and end the curse once and for all.}}
* Bob's boss Mr. Huph from ''[[The Incredibles]]'' isn't a murderous supervillain like Syndrome or even a criminal, but he makes up for his lack of crimes with his startling [[Lack of Empathy]]. He belittles Bob for trying to help Insuricare's customers get paid, refuses to let him stop a mugger, and takes a sickening amount of glee in humiliating him. You'd be hard-pressed to shed a tear once Bob has enough and breaks every bone in his body by throwing him through several walls, [[Reality Ensues|even though he gets fired for it in the process.]]
* Bob's boss Mr. Huph from ''[[The Incredibles]]'' isn't a murderous supervillain like Syndrome or even a criminal, but he makes up for his lack of crimes with his startling [[Lack of Empathy]]. He belittles Bob for trying to help Insuricare's customers get paid, refuses to let him stop a mugger, and takes a sickening amount of glee in humiliating him. You'd be hard-pressed to shed a tear once Bob has enough and breaks every bone in his body by throwing him through several walls, [[Reality Ensues|even though he gets fired for it in the process.]]
* ''Delgo''’s villain Sedessa has been criticized for being cliche, it’s made clear that she has made things far worse for both the Nohrin and the Lochni, who had coexisted peacefully before she stepped on. The Kockni had stopped giving the Nohrin land, but it was only because they themselves needed land in order to survive. But while King Zahn (the Nohrin king) wished to negotiate, Sedessa chose to commit genocide out of xenophobia and ruthless pragmatism, even encouraging her own brother (the king) to do the same. Inevitably, Sedessa’s actions cause a race war…but her later decision of choosing to murder King Zahn and his wife only make things worse. And she did it over being punished for causing so much horrible things.
* Lord Barkis from ''[[Corpse Bride]]'' is not just a deplorable [[Gold Digger|gold digging]] murderer, but also a smug blowhard with no good qualities to his name. Him tricking the lovable Emily into eloping with him only to murder her once he got his hands on her family's money is horrible enough, but when he cruelly mocks her for never being able to marry either the men she loved, the viewer's bound to have no sympathy for him when his own stupidity leads to his death and horrible afterlife.
* Lord Barkis from ''[[Corpse Bride]]'' is not just a deplorable [[Gold Digger|gold digging]] murderer, but also a smug blowhard with no good qualities to his name. Him tricking the lovable Emily into eloping with him only to murder her once he got his hands on her family's money is horrible enough, but when he cruelly mocks her for never being able to marry either the men she loved, the viewer's bound to have no sympathy for him when his own stupidity leads to his death and horrible afterlife.
* In ''[[Kim Possible Movie: So the Drama]]'', we have Eric the Synthodrone. While at first he appears to be an awesome boyfriend and just the boy Kim wants in her life, it’s eventually revealed that he’s a backstabber working for Dr. Drakken - in his defense, [[Robotic Reveal|this is his programming]. But he also enjoys doing what he does to Kim to a certain extent, and goes a bit further by insulting Rufus as well, which presumably wasn’t in his programming. This is likely why he dies at the end (since he doesn’t have a real way of seeking redemption), though it’s implied he can be rebuilt.
* In ''[[Kim Possible Movie: So the Drama]]'', we have Eric the Synthodrone. While at first he appears to be an awesome boyfriend and just the boy Kim wants in her life, it’s eventually revealed that he’s a backstabber working for Dr. Drakken - in his defense, [[Robotic Reveal|this is his programming]. But he also enjoys doing what he does to Kim to a certain extent, and goes a bit further by insulting Rufus as well, which presumably wasn’t in his programming. This is likely why he dies at the end (since he doesn’t have a real way of seeking redemption), though it’s implied he can be rebuilt.
Line 71: Line 70:
* ''[[Unstoppable]]'': You can't hate a runaway train, but you can hate [[Obstructive Bureaucrat]] Galvin. His comeuppance is that he loses his job afterwards.
* ''[[Unstoppable]]'': You can't hate a runaway train, but you can hate [[Obstructive Bureaucrat]] Galvin. His comeuppance is that he loses his job afterwards.
* ''[[Back to the Future]]'': While he gets a lot of genuinely funny lines, Biff Tannen is still a real shitheel at the end of the day. It's bad enough that he's currently George McFly's boorish, overbearing boss, but when they were teenagers he was a violent bully who got his kicks out of cruelly humiliating him, and attempts to do the same to Marty when he travels back to 1955. He's also an attempted rapist who tries to have his way with Lorraine, but gets his lights punched out when George finally stands up to him.
* ''[[Back to the Future]]'': While he gets a lot of genuinely funny lines, Biff Tannen is still a real shitheel at the end of the day. It's bad enough that he's currently George McFly's boorish, overbearing boss, but when they were teenagers he was a violent bully who got his kicks out of cruelly humiliating him, and attempts to do the same to Marty when he travels back to 1955. He's also an attempted rapist who tries to have his way with Lorraine, but gets his lights punched out when George finally stands up to him.
* ''[[Delgo]]''{{'}}s villain Sedessa has been criticized for being cliche; it's also made clear that she has made things far worse for both the Nohrin and the Lochni, who had coexisted peacefully before she stepped on. The Kockni had stopped giving the Nohrin land, but it was only because they themselves needed land in order to survive. But while King Zahn (the Nohrin king) wished to negotiate, Sedessa chose to commit genocide out of xenophobia and ruthless pragmatism, even encouraging her own brother (the king) to do the same. Inevitably, Sedessa’s actions cause a race war... but her later decision to murder King Zahn and his wife only made things worse. And she did it over being punished for causing so much horrible things.


== [[Literature]] ==
== [[Literature]] ==
Line 126: Line 126:
* ''[[Grand Theft Auto (series)|Grand Theft Auto V]]'': While the main characters [[The Caper|Franklin, Michael and Trevor]] are highly flawed criminals (''especially'' [[Ax Crazy|Trevor]]), they're nowhere near as loathsome as the [[Big Bad Ensemble]], Devin Weston and Steve Haines. Devin is one of the most despised GTA antagonists due to him acting like a cowardly and incredibly annoying [[Rich Bitch|Rich Bastard]] [[Man Child]] who goes as far as to {{spoiler|send the military organization Merryweather to kill Michael's family, as well as forcing Franklin into betraying either Michael or Trevor.}} Steve, for his part, beats the crap out of Michael for the [[Sarcasm Mode|unforgivable crime]] of standing up to him, becoming more and more of a dick as the game goes on. {{spoiler|Needless to say, choosing the C Option (leading to the "Deathwish" ending) is extremely satisfying despite its difficulty, since it allows to deliver these bastards the comeuppance they so deserve.}}
* ''[[Grand Theft Auto (series)|Grand Theft Auto V]]'': While the main characters [[The Caper|Franklin, Michael and Trevor]] are highly flawed criminals (''especially'' [[Ax Crazy|Trevor]]), they're nowhere near as loathsome as the [[Big Bad Ensemble]], Devin Weston and Steve Haines. Devin is one of the most despised GTA antagonists due to him acting like a cowardly and incredibly annoying [[Rich Bitch|Rich Bastard]] [[Man Child]] who goes as far as to {{spoiler|send the military organization Merryweather to kill Michael's family, as well as forcing Franklin into betraying either Michael or Trevor.}} Steve, for his part, beats the crap out of Michael for the [[Sarcasm Mode|unforgivable crime]] of standing up to him, becoming more and more of a dick as the game goes on. {{spoiler|Needless to say, choosing the C Option (leading to the "Deathwish" ending) is extremely satisfying despite its difficulty, since it allows to deliver these bastards the comeuppance they so deserve.}}
* ''[[The Last of Us]]'' focuses on a [[Zombie Apocalypse]] full of [[Grey And Gray Morality]], so it has [[Bitch in Sheep's Clothing|David]] from the Winter Chapter, a cannibalistic psychopath who tries to [[Rape Is a Special Kind of Evil|rape Ellie]], with his boss battle being considered the most tense "Hide and Seek" level ever. {{spoiler|Which makes it more of a relief when Ellie slams the psycho with a machete repeatedly.}}
* ''[[The Last of Us]]'' focuses on a [[Zombie Apocalypse]] full of [[Grey And Gray Morality]], so it has [[Bitch in Sheep's Clothing|David]] from the Winter Chapter, a cannibalistic psychopath who tries to [[Rape Is a Special Kind of Evil|rape Ellie]], with his boss battle being considered the most tense "Hide and Seek" level ever. {{spoiler|Which makes it more of a relief when Ellie slams the psycho with a machete repeatedly.}}
*Dr. Barnaby from ''Dead Rising'' isn’t a likable character. Admittedly, it wasn’t wrong for him try genetically engineeeing cattle. Americans do need to eat, even if one could consider Americans to be gluttonous without really sounding racist. But while Carlito ended up going completely insane from what he witnessed after witnessing Barnaby unintentionally create zombies (more or less), Barnaby decides not to regret anything. So he ends up becoming a zombie himself, because Barnaby was more or less intended to be Carlito’s first victim. The Willamette Mall was a trap for him.
* ''[[Blaz Blue]]'': Yuuki Terumi is a weird zig-zagged example. [[In-Universe]], he's the personification of this trope, being a sadistic and cruel [[Troll]] who thinks of himself as the center of the universe, and ruins everyone's lives [[For the Evulz]], to the point he even uses this trope to survive. Out of universe, though, he's [[Love to Hate|beloved by the fans]] for his design, cool powers, accomplishments, and generally being praised for succeeding at being this trope.
* ''[[Blaz Blue]]'': Yuuki Terumi is a weird zig-zagged example. [[In-Universe]], he's the personification of this trope, being a sadistic and cruel [[Troll]] who thinks of himself as the center of the universe, and ruins everyone's lives [[For the Evulz]], to the point he even uses this trope to survive. Out of universe, though, he's [[Love to Hate|beloved by the fans]] for his design, cool powers, accomplishments, and generally being praised for succeeding at being this trope.
* ''[[Undertale]]'' invokes this trope with [[Big Bad|Flowey]]. For most of the game, he's shown as a [[Jerkass|repulsive]] [[The Sociopath|sociopath]] who tries to kill you at the beginning of the game, {{spoiler| steals the six souls you collected ''twice'', uses his resetting powers to torture the player, and overall tries to prevent you from getting your happy ending.}} This is done to make [[The Reveal]] about him all the more effective: {{spoiler|Namely, his true identity as [[The Lost Lenore|Asriel]] [[Nice Guy|Dreemurr]], and consequently, the [[Came Back Wrong|most]] [[Tragic Monster|tragic]] [[Jerkass Woobie|character]] of the game.}} As such, his status as this can be [[Subverted Trope|subverted]] with both the Pacifist Run ({{spoiler|When he, as Asriel, recovers his compassion for enough time to apologize for his actions}}) and the Genocide Run ({{spoiler|When he's killed by [[Bigger Bad|the Fallen Child]] while [[Ain't Too Proud to Beg|pleading for mercy]], making his fate [[Alas, Poor Villain|too horrifying to get any satisfaction from it]].}})
* ''[[Undertale]]'' invokes this trope with [[Big Bad|Flowey]]. For most of the game, he's shown as a [[Jerkass|repulsive]] [[The Sociopath|sociopath]] who tries to kill you at the beginning of the game, {{spoiler| steals the six souls you collected ''twice'', uses his resetting powers to torture the player, and overall tries to prevent you from getting your happy ending.}} This is done to make [[The Reveal]] about him all the more effective: {{spoiler|Namely, his true identity as [[The Lost Lenore|Asriel]] [[Nice Guy|Dreemurr]], and consequently, the [[Came Back Wrong|most]] [[Tragic Monster|tragic]] [[Jerkass Woobie|character]] of the game.}} As such, his status as this can be [[Subverted Trope|subverted]] with both the Pacifist Run ({{spoiler|When he, as Asriel, recovers his compassion for enough time to apologize for his actions}}) and the Genocide Run ({{spoiler|When he's killed by [[Bigger Bad|the Fallen Child]] while [[Ain't Too Proud to Beg|pleading for mercy]], making his fate [[Alas, Poor Villain|too horrifying to get any satisfaction from it]].}})
Line 158: Line 157:
* [[Big Bad|The Origami Killer]] in ''[[Heavy Rain]]'' is set up to be this, thanks to the ridiculous sadism he shows as he murders children and forces their fathers to endure hell in a bid to save them. It's subverted later on once it's revealed that he is {{spoiler|Scott Shelby}}, who is a very sympathetic and even likable man with a fucked-up childhood that ''explains'' why he does what he does, even if there's no justifying it.
* [[Big Bad|The Origami Killer]] in ''[[Heavy Rain]]'' is set up to be this, thanks to the ridiculous sadism he shows as he murders children and forces their fathers to endure hell in a bid to save them. It's subverted later on once it's revealed that he is {{spoiler|Scott Shelby}}, who is a very sympathetic and even likable man with a fucked-up childhood that ''explains'' why he does what he does, even if there's no justifying it.
* Pigma Dengar from ''[[Star Fox]]'' has his fair share of entertaining moments, but he's a lot less likable than his Star Wolf wingmen and even Andross himself. A total swine of a man [[Pig Man|in more ways than one]], Pigma was a loyal member of the original Star Fox team before selling them out to Andross and playing a role in the death of James McCloud. He's disgustingly proud of being a greedy traitor, and cruelly taunts Fox, James' son, by ''making fun of his dying screams''. When you shoot him down during the boss fights against Star Wolf, it's hard not to smile when he whines and complains about his misfortune.
* Pigma Dengar from ''[[Star Fox]]'' has his fair share of entertaining moments, but he's a lot less likable than his Star Wolf wingmen and even Andross himself. A total swine of a man [[Pig Man|in more ways than one]], Pigma was a loyal member of the original Star Fox team before selling them out to Andross and playing a role in the death of James McCloud. He's disgustingly proud of being a greedy traitor, and cruelly taunts Fox, James' son, by ''making fun of his dying screams''. When you shoot him down during the boss fights against Star Wolf, it's hard not to smile when he whines and complains about his misfortune.
* Dr. Barnaby from ''[[Dead Rising]]'' isn't a likable character. Admittedly, it wasn't wrong for him to try genetically engineeeing cattle. Americans do need to eat, even if one could consider Americans to be gluttonous without really sounding racist. But while Carlito ended up going completely insane from what he saw after witnessing Barnaby unintentionally create zombies (more or less), Barnaby decides not to regret anything. So he ends up becoming a zombie himself, because Barnaby was more or less intended to be Carlito’s first victim. The Willamette Mall was a trap for him.


==[[Web Comics]]==
==[[Web Comics]]==