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* The entire premise of ''[[Idolmaster: Xenoglossia]]'' is that Japan's government is so committed to honoring its post-WWII disarmament agreements, that when the planet is threatened by asteroids that used to be pieces of the moon, instead of arming itself with ballistic missiles to protect itself like most nations did they go to the ludicrous expense of creating [[Humongous Mecha]] which can only be piloted by children who have certain qualities to destroy the rocks instead.
* The entire premise of ''[[Idolmaster: Xenoglossia]]'' is that Japan's government is so committed to honoring its post-WWII disarmament agreements, that when the planet is threatened by asteroids that used to be pieces of the moon, instead of arming itself with ballistic missiles to protect itself like most nations did they go to the ludicrous expense of creating [[Humongous Mecha]] which can only be piloted by children who have certain qualities to destroy the rocks instead.
* [[Lampshade Hanging]]: Both protagonist and antagonist fall victim to this line of thinking in ''[[Claymore]]''. An awakened being {{spoiler|Ophelia}} puts all of her vulnerable, human portions at her tail and challenges Claire to cut through the awakened being's body using her dangerous "Flash Sword" technique. As Claire begins the test of mettle, {{spoiler|Ophelia}} thinks to herself, "The fool, she could've just ignored me and aimed right for my tail." {{spoiler|Ophelia}} seems to slightly realize that she too is guilty of honor before reason since she agreed to put all of her vulnerable parts in one easy to target place. As she continues to berate Claire's foolishness, {{spoiler|Ophelia}} thinks to herself, "Wait, who am I talking about?"
* [[Lampshade Hanging]]: Both protagonist and antagonist fall victim to this line of thinking in ''[[Claymore]]''. An awakened being {{spoiler|Ophelia}} puts all of her vulnerable, human portions at her tail and challenges Claire to cut through the awakened being's body using her dangerous "Flash Sword" technique. As Claire begins the test of mettle, {{spoiler|Ophelia}} thinks to herself, "The fool, she could've just ignored me and aimed right for my tail." {{spoiler|Ophelia}} seems to slightly realize that she too is guilty of honor before reason since she agreed to put all of her vulnerable parts in one easy to target place. As she continues to berate Claire's foolishness, {{spoiler|Ophelia}} thinks to herself, "Wait, who am I talking about?"
* ''[[One Piece]]'' examples:
* In ''[[One Piece]]'', [[Lovable Sex Maniac]] Sanji is completely [[Wouldn't Hit a Girl|unwilling to hit a female]] for any reason whatsoever. This has very nearly cost him his life on more than one occasion, and he's been called out on it as well. Sanji is fully aware of this, but this rule is so ingrained in him that he can not and will not break it for anything.
** [[Lovable Sex Maniac]] Sanji is completely [[Wouldn't Hit a Girl|unwilling to hit a female]] for any reason whatsoever. This has very nearly cost him his life on more than one occasion, and he's been called out on it as well. Sanji is fully aware of this, but this rule is so ingrained in him that he can not and will not break it for anything.
** Sanji also straight up used this trope when, against the advice from his crewmates, gave food to starving and obviously evil pirates who then immediately attacked him. Sanji then said that he stood by his decision.
** Sanji also straight up used this trope when, against the advice from his crewmates, gave food to starving and obviously evil pirates who then immediately attacked him. Sanji then said that he stood by his decision.
*** Because he {{spoiler|starved almost to death as a kid}} starving is something he literally does not wish on his worst enemy. No exceptions.
*** Because he {{spoiler|starved almost to death as a kid}} starving is something he literally does not wish on his worst enemy. No exceptions.
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** Nami's adoptive mom, Bellemere, essentially chose to be executed rather than disavow being Nami's mother. On the other hand, the doctor and Genzo point out afterward that their plan to send Nojiko and Nami out to sea to spare them from being discovered wouldn't have worked, as the fishmen had sunk all the boats, and Bellemere, having been a former Marine, ''knew'' it would have been impossible to resist the Fishmen, so it's likely Bellemere thought things through more than it seemed.
** Nami's adoptive mom, Bellemere, essentially chose to be executed rather than disavow being Nami's mother. On the other hand, the doctor and Genzo point out afterward that their plan to send Nojiko and Nami out to sea to spare them from being discovered wouldn't have worked, as the fishmen had sunk all the boats, and Bellemere, having been a former Marine, ''knew'' it would have been impossible to resist the Fishmen, so it's likely Bellemere thought things through more than it seemed.
** Interestingly, despite being the main character, Luffy doesn't usually follow this trope to arbitrary levels. You couldn't ask for a truer friend, but he's made it clear that he does what ''he'' wants to do, and doesn't care if other people disapprove. He's also willing to break a promise if he gets angry enough.
** Interestingly, despite being the main character, Luffy doesn't usually follow this trope to arbitrary levels. You couldn't ask for a truer friend, but he's made it clear that he does what ''he'' wants to do, and doesn't care if other people disapprove. He's also willing to break a promise if he gets angry enough.
** Although, in one story, Luffy refused to fight Smoker during the Punk Hazard arc after discovering that Smoker and Tashigi were victims of a [[Freaky Friday Flip]], a situation clearly detrimental to their ability to fight; Luffy didn't hesitate to laugh a little though, even though Smoker ''seriously'' [[Dude, Not Funny| didn't find it funny.]]
** The mayor of the town Buggy is attacking in the Buggy arc tries to stand up to the pirates, prompting Luffy to punch him out. He later realizes that he was wrong and is grateful to Luffy for stopping him from throwing his life away.
** The mayor of the town Buggy is attacking in the Buggy arc tries to stand up to the pirates, prompting Luffy to punch him out. He later realizes that he was wrong and is grateful to Luffy for stopping him from throwing his life away.
* In ''[[Fullmetal Alchemist]]'', Edward turns down the opportunity to take the Philosopher's Stone and run, despite it being the one thing he's been searching for for three years. He leaves it, because the doctor who has the stone used it to heal injuries and sicknesses in his town. Edward says that he didn't want to take away the town's life support, and if he achieved his objective at the cost of others, then it would leave a bitter aftertaste. His brother agrees.
* In ''[[Fullmetal Alchemist]]'', Edward turns down the opportunity to take the Philosopher's Stone and run, despite it being the one thing he's been searching for for three years. He leaves it, because the doctor who has the stone used it to heal injuries and sicknesses in his town. Edward says that he didn't want to take away the town's life support, and if he achieved his objective at the cost of others, then it would leave a bitter aftertaste. His brother agrees.
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