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** [[Disproportionate Retribution|"After time we grew strong, they gave us cognitive powers/ They made us work far too long at unreasonable hours!"]]
** [[Disproportionate Retribution|"After time we grew strong, they gave us cognitive powers/ They made us work far too long at unreasonable hours!"]]
* One of the major themes of [[The Protomen]]'s CDs, especially the first one.
* One of the major themes of [[The Protomen]]'s CDs, especially the first one.
* [[Ayreon]] does this to great effect in ''Unnatural Selection'' from ''[tel:01011001 01011001]''.
* [[Ayreon]] does this to great effect in "Unnatural Selection" from ''01011001''.
{{quote|''We gave them feelings, what did they sense?''
{{quote|''We gave them feelings, what did they sense?''
''Shout at the world in their defense.''
''Shout at the world in their defense.''
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==[[Video Games]]==
==[[Video Games]]==
* ''[[2027]]'': Titan will reference this if you {{spoiler|initate the Vladmir ending.}}
* ''[[2027]]'': Titan will reference this if you {{spoiler|initate the Vladmir ending.}}
* In ''[[Strange Journey]]'', most of the humans and demons are mostly cool with each other. Humans from your investigation team tend to go somewhere between [[Lawful Neutral]] and [[True Neutral]], and the demons swing in a true diverse fashion, with virtually all alignments represented. Then again, demons like [[Complete Monster|Mitra]] appear. Turns out, Captain Jack and his all-too human pals are way, ''way'', '''''w[[Rule of Three|ay]]''''', too on par with Mitra for comfort, butchering demons (and by their willingness to torture and kill Jimenez, humans too) to create their own demon army. Especially when it turns out Jack and co. are [[Only in It For the Money]].
* In ''[[Shin Megami Tensei: Strange Journey]]'', most of the humans and demons are mostly cool with each other. Humans from your investigation team tend to go somewhere between [[Lawful Neutral]] and [[True Neutral]], and the demons swing in a true diverse fashion, with virtually all alignments represented. Then again, demons like [[Complete Monster|Mitra]] appear. Turns out, Captain Jack and his all-too human pals are way, ''way'', '''''w[[Rule of Three|ay]]''''', too on par with Mitra for comfort, butchering demons (and by their willingness to torture and kill Jimenez, humans too) to create their own demon army. Especially when it turns out Jack and co. are [[Only in It For the Money]].
** ALL of the demons (or near all of them) are very quick to point out that while the Schwartzwelt is essentially a [[Hell Gate|hell on earth]], all of it is modeled on humanity's being a race of bastards with the innate instinct and talent for killing (Especially killing other humans). The more wild/bloodthirsty demons clearly state how awed they are by that aspect of humanity with a grudging respect/obvious distaste.
** ''All'' of the demons (or near all of them) are very quick to point out that while the Schwartzwelt is essentially a [[Hell Gate|hell on earth]], all of it is modeled on humanity's being a race of bastards with the innate instinct and talent for killing (Especially killing other humans). The more wild/bloodthirsty demons clearly state how awed they are by that aspect of humanity with a grudging respect/obvious distaste.
** After a while, having ''every single demon'' you try to negotiate with asking "Why do humans suck so much?" gets tiresome... (Though they also like to ask, "Nice suit! Where'd you get it?", so...)
** After a while, having ''every single demon'' you try to negotiate with asking "Why do humans suck so much?" gets tiresome... (Though they also like to ask, "Nice suit! Where'd you get it?", so...)
**This trope ends up happening in ''Shin Megami Tensei V.'' While Lahmu did play a role in the corruption of Satori, he never forced her to be evil. (All he did was give her some of his power, not much…but enough to kill the two bullies that were oppressing her). It was ultimately the two mean girls that caused Satori’s Start of Darkness.
** This trope ends up happening in ''Shin Megami Tensei V''. While Lahmu did play a role in the corruption of Satori, he never forced her to be evil. (All he did was give her some of his power, not much…but enough to kill the two bullies that were oppressing her). It was ultimately the two mean girls that caused Satori’s Start of Darkness.
* ''[[Persona (video game)|Persona]]'' games gave us the [[Anthropomorphic Personification]] of this trope in [[Cosmic Horror|Nyarlathotep]] - an entity literally created as [[The Heartless|the dark, destructive side of the collective unconscious]], [[Made of Evil|a monstrous entity born of Humanity's hatred, fear and despair]]. [[As Long as There Is Evil|He will exist as long as Humanity does]]. He has been known to [[Omnicidal Maniac|indulge in omnicidal plans]]... [[Persona 2|and he has been]] [[The Bad Guy Wins|known to win]].
* ''[[Persona (video game)|Persona]]'' games gave us the [[Anthropomorphic Personification]] of this trope in [[Cosmic Horror|Nyarlathotep]] - an entity literally created as [[The Heartless|the dark, destructive side of the collective unconscious]], [[Made of Evil|a monstrous entity born of Humanity's hatred, fear and despair]]. [[As Long as There Is Evil|He will exist as long as Humanity does]]. He has been known to [[Omnicidal Maniac|indulge in omnicidal plans]]... [[Persona 2|and he has been]] [[The Bad Guy Wins|known to win]].
** Of course, He of the Thousand Masks takes his name from a Lovecraftian [[Eldritch Abomination]] who just likes to mess with sapient life.
** Of course, He of the Thousand Masks takes his name from a Lovecraftian [[Eldritch Abomination]] who just likes to mess with sapient life.