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** In Act 5 of ''[[Homestuck]]'', Eridan is a genocidal snob who aspires to kill off all the lower-class, land-dwelling trolls. But none of his schemes ever work, no one takes him seriously, and the [http://mspaintadventures.com/?s=6&p=004339 narration itself] describes him as an Ineffectual Sympathetic Villain: |
** In Act 5 of ''[[Homestuck]]'', Eridan is a genocidal snob who aspires to kill off all the lower-class, land-dwelling trolls. But none of his schemes ever work, no one takes him seriously, and the [http://mspaintadventures.com/?s=6&p=004339 narration itself] describes him as an Ineffectual Sympathetic Villain: |
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{{quote|[Y]our penchant for mass murder notwithstanding, people tend to regard you as a BIT OF A TOOL.}} |
{{quote|[Y]our penchant for mass murder notwithstanding, people tend to regard you as a BIT OF A TOOL.}} |
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:* Eridan really doesn't [[Zig-Zagging Trope|count as an example]]; it's later revealed that he really doesn't care about killing people, he's just doing it to stay close to his crush. |
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:* Eridan becomes a full-on subversion when {{spoiler|he loses both the [[Moral Event Horizon|"sympathetic"]] and [[Not So Harmless|"ineffectual"]] parts in Act 5 Act 2. The crush mentioned in the above line? He killed her as he leapt across the [[Moral Event Horizon]].}} |
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:* Though he switches right back to ineffectual when {{spoiler|Kanaya comes back from the grave as a vampire and effortlessly fells him. Like a tree.}} |
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:* Jack Noir ''[[Bait the Dog|starts]]'' as this. Later into the story...he's [[Complete Monster|significantly less ineffectual or sympathetic]]. |
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* Dr. Kinesis in [https://web.archive.org/web/20191021162347/http://evilplan.thewebcomic.com/ Evil Plan]. His technology gets stolen, the other villains laugh at him, and on his minions' first mission, they bump into a brand new superhero. |
* Dr. Kinesis in [https://web.archive.org/web/20191021162347/http://evilplan.thewebcomic.com/ Evil Plan]. His technology gets stolen, the other villains laugh at him, and on his minions' first mission, they bump into a brand new superhero. |
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* In ''[[El Goonish Shive]]'', technically, {{spoiler|Magus}} was behind the {{spoiler|v-five Elliot incident}}, and tried to manipulate Ellen within some plot that sounds [[Squick|quite dubious]]. And is not very good at this. But he's in desperate straits, which isn't even his own fault (unlike Abraham's case). And he's still reluctant to kill a guy who stands in his way even when pushed hard to do it. |
* In ''[[El Goonish Shive]]'', technically, {{spoiler|Magus}} was behind the {{spoiler|v-five Elliot incident}}, and tried to manipulate Ellen within some plot that sounds [[Squick|quite dubious]]. And is not very good at this. But he's in desperate straits, which isn't even his own fault (unlike Abraham's case). And he's still reluctant to kill a guy who stands in his way even when pushed hard to do it. |
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