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** Sora is pretty much the strongest out of all of them, his assistance was sort of a necessity. Plus DiZ probably still needed time to create that machine he wanted to use to contain Kingdom Hearts.
** Sora is pretty much the strongest out of all of them, his assistance was sort of a necessity. Plus DiZ probably still needed time to create that machine he wanted to use to contain Kingdom Hearts.
** They could have tried to. Roxas is rather strong when equipped with both keyblades, and he took out Saix with relative ease. Kingdom Hearts wasn't yet finished, so if he had uber!Riku on his side, it is plausible that he could have won. He would only be required to slash through buildings if Xemnas were able to enter Kingdom Hearts. The reason it didn't happen was that DiZ was pulling the strings. He essentially had Sora, Donald and Goofy captive, not to mention the only person able to fix him, so Riku and Mickey would obey him if it came down to conflict between them. As it stood, they were happy enough to follow him. As for DiZ himself: He hates Nobodies. Understandable in a way, being locked in darkness and all, but too eager to take vengeance on all Nobodies. Working WITH one would be too much to bear for him, even for taking down the Organisation.
** They could have tried to. Roxas is rather strong when equipped with both keyblades, and he took out Saix with relative ease. Kingdom Hearts wasn't yet finished, so if he had uber!Riku on his side, it is plausible that he could have won. He would only be required to slash through buildings if Xemnas were able to enter Kingdom Hearts. The reason it didn't happen was that DiZ was pulling the strings. He essentially had Sora, Donald and Goofy captive, not to mention the only person able to fix him, so Riku and Mickey would obey him if it came down to conflict between them. As it stood, they were happy enough to follow him. As for DiZ himself: He hates Nobodies. Understandable in a way, being locked in darkness and all, but too eager to take vengeance on all Nobodies. Working WITH one would be too much to bear for him, even for taking down the Organisation.
*** He only took out Saïx because he wasn't using über Kingdom-Hearts moonlight power like he does during his fight with Sora.
*** He only took out Saïx because he wasn't using über Kingdom-Hearts moonlight power like he does during his fight with Sora.
** They all wanted Sora back, is my personal interpretation. As far as they're concerned (except for Namine), Roxas is just a shallow shell of the guy who's not only their friend, but the one most capable of fighting and defeating the Organization. They had already wasted 300-some days trying to fix his memories, after all.
** They all wanted Sora back, is my personal interpretation. As far as they're concerned (except for Namine), Roxas is just a shallow shell of the guy who's not only their friend, but the one most capable of fighting and defeating the Organization. They had already wasted 300-some days trying to fix his memories, after all.
*** Not to mention how powerful Sora's ''Heart'' is, which Roxas doesn't have.
*** Not to mention how powerful Sora's ''Heart'' is, which Roxas doesn't have.
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** They work, they just don't work as well. Their friendship existed even before Xion joined the group. As was shown, Axel treated her as a friend, but she was never as important to him as Roxas was. Axel wigging out like he did in KHII over Roxas makes a whole lot more sense than if Roxas was replaced by Xion during KHII.
** They work, they just don't work as well. Their friendship existed even before Xion joined the group. As was shown, Axel treated her as a friend, but she was never as important to him as Roxas was. Axel wigging out like he did in KHII over Roxas makes a whole lot more sense than if Roxas was replaced by Xion during KHII.
*** Though potential problem: we're told not that she'll be destroyed and forgotten, but that she'll never have existed at all. So there never would have been a Xion to remember. Possibly anyway, the whole 'memories can never be truly forgotten' thing may still apply as those events both did and didn't take place.
*** Though potential problem: we're told not that she'll be destroyed and forgotten, but that she'll never have existed at all. So there never would have been a Xion to remember. Possibly anyway, the whole 'memories can never be truly forgotten' thing may still apply as those events both did and didn't take place.
*** The answer is that Xion is Roxas. Any interaction Axel had with Xion is recast in their memory as interaction with Roxas, which goes a long way toward explaining the [[Yandere (disambiguation)]] [[Ho Yay]] subtext between them.
*** The answer is that Xion is Roxas. Any interaction Axel had with Xion is recast in their memory as interaction with Roxas, which goes a long way toward explaining the [[:Category:Yandere|Yandere]] [[Ho Yay]] subtext between them.
**** Prove, please, or else, this is nothing but you're theory. Nothing in the game presents this, and neither do official statements. What they ''do'' show, is Xion fading away from their memories when hanging out in the clock tower once Deep Dive comes in, and it's only each other to interact with. And despite that it's a retcon that never truly existed, if we are to take Days as it is now in correlation with [[KH 2]], most of the spaces that are blank when Roxas slowly remembers his past memories shows that they were more erased out than replaced.
**** Prove, please, or else, this is nothing but you're theory. Nothing in the game presents this, and neither do official statements. What they ''do'' show, is Xion fading away from their memories when hanging out in the clock tower once Deep Dive comes in, and it's only each other to interact with. And despite that it's a retcon that never truly existed, if we are to take Days as it is now in correlation with [[KH 2]], most of the spaces that are blank when Roxas slowly remembers his past memories shows that they were more erased out than replaced.
** Roxas and Axel's memories get rewritten, with Xion out of it. During [[Kingdom Hearts II]], they're both too busy to stop and think about how little sense their recently rewritten lives make, and as ''coded'' showed us, Roxas is very much aware that he's forgotten something, he just doesn't know what.
** Roxas and Axel's memories get rewritten, with Xion out of it. During [[Kingdom Hearts II]], they're both too busy to stop and think about how little sense their recently rewritten lives make, and as ''coded'' showed us, Roxas is very much aware that he's forgotten something, he just doesn't know what.