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** During {{spoiler|his mini-mission}}, Joker wonders if he's dooming the galaxy by {{spoiler|hooking up EDI}}. At one point he mutters, "...now I have to spend all day computing pi because Joker plugged in the Overlord." Then comes the [[Tear Jerker|Overlord]] [[Nightmare Fuel|DLC]]...
** During {{spoiler|his mini-mission}}, Joker wonders if he's dooming the galaxy by {{spoiler|hooking up EDI}}. At one point he mutters, "...now I have to spend all day computing pi because Joker plugged in the Overlord." Then comes the [[Tear Jerker|Overlord]] [[Nightmare Fuel|DLC]]...
** A [[YouTube]] user made a [http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xQvPFNjxxU0&context=C4045cc8ADvjVQa1PpcFPlCObhVG4znLyTaB8NJUflIkyZAeYoiRQ= video] that depicted the series ending like ''[[Neon Genesis Evangelion]]''. It was meant as a joke, but turned out to be prophetic when the third installment came out six months later and the fans' reaction towards the ending being similar to ''Evangelion'''s 16 years earlier.
** A [[YouTube]] user made a [http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xQvPFNjxxU0&context=C4045cc8ADvjVQa1PpcFPlCObhVG4znLyTaB8NJUflIkyZAeYoiRQ= video] that depicted the series ending like ''[[Neon Genesis Evangelion]]''. It was meant as a joke, but turned out to be prophetic when the third installment came out six months later and the fans' reaction towards the ending being similar to ''Evangelion'''s 16 years earlier.
** One of Jack's lines is "If I die, I'm haunting you, Shepard," a typical [[Badass Boast]] that shows her [[Hidden Depths]] that she believes in that sort of thing. In ''[[Mass Effect 3 (Video Game)|Mass Effect 3]]'', those who have died haunt Shepard.
** One of Jack's lines is "If I die, I'm haunting you, Shepard," a typical [[Badass Boast]] that shows her [[Hidden Depths]] that she believes in that sort of thing. In ''[[Mass Effect 3]]'', those who have died haunt Shepard.
* [[Game Breaker]]:
* [[Game Breaker]]:
** The Sentinel's Tech Armor. With the right upgrades, the cooldown times are short, when destroyed it automatically replenishes Shepard's natural shields and causes a wide pulse that stumbles nearby enemies, and when activated automatically sets squadmates' cooldowns to zero (the last one thanks to [[Good Bad Bugs]]).
** The Sentinel's Tech Armor. With the right upgrades, the cooldown times are short, when destroyed it automatically replenishes Shepard's natural shields and causes a wide pulse that stumbles nearby enemies, and when activated automatically sets squadmates' cooldowns to zero (the last one thanks to [[Good Bad Bugs]]).
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* [[Genius Bonus]]:
* [[Genius Bonus]]:
** The ship that Morinth left Illium on is the ''Demeter''. In Greek mythology, Demeter was an extremely powerful goddess who lost her daughter to the underworld and walked the earth endlessly searching for her. Sounds a bit like a certain justicar...which makes this a [[Incredibly Lame Pun|literal]] [[Mythology Gag]]. For bonus points, the Demeter was also the name of the ship the Count travelled on in Dracula.
** The ship that Morinth left Illium on is the ''Demeter''. In Greek mythology, Demeter was an extremely powerful goddess who lost her daughter to the underworld and walked the earth endlessly searching for her. Sounds a bit like a certain justicar...which makes this a [[Incredibly Lame Pun|literal]] [[Mythology Gag]]. For bonus points, the Demeter was also the name of the ship the Count travelled on in Dracula.
** Does the name of Jacob's father's ship (the ''Hugo Gernsbeck'') sound familiar to you? If you're a sci-fi buff, it should. Hugo Gernsbeck is generally considered the father of modern science fiction and founder of the ''[[Amazing Stories (Magazine)|Amazing Stories]]'' magazine. It's who the [[Hugo Award]] is named after. Although considering that the ship named after him is populated in the game by a bunch of self-centered jackasses who routinely perform [[Mind Rape]] on their crew, it's not the ''best'' tribute they could have given the father of modern science fiction...
** Does the name of Jacob's father's ship (the ''Hugo Gernsbeck'') sound familiar to you? If you're a sci-fi buff, it should. Hugo Gernsbeck is generally considered the father of modern science fiction and founder of the ''[[Amazing Stories (magazine)|Amazing Stories]]'' magazine. It's who the [[Hugo Award]] is named after. Although considering that the ship named after him is populated in the game by a bunch of self-centered jackasses who routinely perform [[Mind Rape]] on their crew, it's not the ''best'' tribute they could have given the father of modern science fiction...
* [[Goddamn Bats]]: Husks, on any difficulty. They don't use guns, they just run up to you and start whacking you. Mowing them down before they can get to you can be hard because they move ridiculously fast. They also tend to swarm you while you're focused on trying to shoot down something else. They have a few [[Weaksauce Weakness|Weaksauce Weaknesses]] (biotics, [[Kill It With Fire|being set on fire]], [[Kill It With Ice|being frozen]], being shot in the legs), but these tend to not be particularly useful if you're facing [[Zerg Rush|ten at once]].
* [[Goddamn Bats]]: Husks, on any difficulty. They don't use guns, they just run up to you and start whacking you. Mowing them down before they can get to you can be hard because they move ridiculously fast. They also tend to swarm you while you're focused on trying to shoot down something else. They have a few [[Weaksauce Weakness|Weaksauce Weaknesses]] (biotics, [[Kill It with Fire|being set on fire]], [[Kill It with Ice|being frozen]], being shot in the legs), but these tend to not be particularly useful if you're facing [[Zerg Rush|ten at once]].
* [[Good Bad Bug]]:
* [[Good Bad Bug]]:
** Hitting melee halfway between the Claymore's reload animation causes it to auto-complete, and you can fire instantly with it. The Claymore is the single-shot uber-tier shotgun, and basically turns into a semi-automatic.
** Hitting melee halfway between the Claymore's reload animation causes it to auto-complete, and you can fire instantly with it. The Claymore is the single-shot uber-tier shotgun, and basically turns into a semi-automatic.
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** Suffice to say, if a character isn't loyal odds are they'll die, regardless of your actions to protect them during the suicide mission. It's possible to keep non-loyal characters alive, but that generally requires a knowledge of the underlying systems governing the mission that a first-time player isn't going to have.
** Suffice to say, if a character isn't loyal odds are they'll die, regardless of your actions to protect them during the suicide mission. It's possible to keep non-loyal characters alive, but that generally requires a knowledge of the underlying systems governing the mission that a first-time player isn't going to have.
* [[Holy Shit Quotient]]: Gets taken [[Up to Eleven]]. Especially in the loyalty missions.
* [[Holy Shit Quotient]]: Gets taken [[Up to Eleven]]. Especially in the loyalty missions.
* [[Like You Would Really Do It]]: Subverted. Shepard dies ten minutes into the game, and is brought back... but can potentially [[Killed Off for Real|die for real]] at the end of the game, so, yes, they ''would'' really do it. Then subverted ''again'', in that save games where the entire team dies won't carry over to ''[[Mass Effect 3 (Video Game)|Mass Effect 3]]''.
* [[Like You Would Really Do It]]: Subverted. Shepard dies ten minutes into the game, and is brought back... but can potentially [[Killed Off for Real|die for real]] at the end of the game, so, yes, they ''would'' really do it. Then subverted ''again'', in that save games where the entire team dies won't carry over to ''[[Mass Effect 3]]''.
* [[Memetic Badass]]:
* [[Memetic Badass]]:
** Niftu Cal, the biotic god. [http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=d2ttQ5diSA4 Fear his great biotic wind!]
** Niftu Cal, the biotic god. [http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=d2ttQ5diSA4 Fear his great biotic wind!]
** Also, Sir Isaac Newton. '''THE DEADLIEST SON OF A BITCH IN SPACE!!!'''
** Also, Sir Isaac Newton. '''THE DEADLIEST SON OF A BITCH IN SPACE!!!'''
* [[Memetic Mutation]]:
* [[Memetic Mutation]]:
** "ASSUMING DIRECT CONTROL". <ref>Harbinger, the [[Big Bad]] of ''[[Mass Effect 2 (Video Game)|Mass Effect 2]]'' uses [[Villain Override]] to possess any of his mooks on the battlefield, at any time, and says this line when he does.</ref>
** "ASSUMING DIRECT CONTROL". <ref>Harbinger, the [[Big Bad]] of ''[[Mass Effect 2]]'' uses [[Villain Override]] to possess any of his mooks on the battlefield, at any time, and says this line when he does.</ref>
** [http://yfrog.com/0flolwhutsheperdj SHEPARD IS PLEASED]. <ref>Shepard's [[Uncanny Valley]] rape face is used to make any situation more uncomfortable.</ref>
** [http://yfrog.com/0flolwhutsheperdj SHEPARD IS PLEASED]. <ref>Shepard's [[Uncanny Valley]] rape face is used to make any situation more uncomfortable.</ref>
** "I've had enough of your disingenuous assertions!" *PAWNCH* <ref>A reporter who made you look bad no matter what you said in the first game returns; if you didn't punch her the first time, you can punch her now, and say that line.</ref>
** "I've had enough of your disingenuous assertions!" *PAWNCH* <ref>A reporter who made you look bad no matter what you said in the first game returns; if you didn't punch her the first time, you can punch her now, and say that line.</ref>
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*** ''So'' worth it when you get to the solar system and try to probe Uranus.
*** ''So'' worth it when you get to the solar system and try to probe Uranus.
{{quote| '''EDI''': [[What the Hell, Hero?|Really, Commander?]]...Probing Uranus.}}
{{quote| '''EDI''': [[What the Hell, Hero?|Really, Commander?]]...Probing Uranus.}}
** If you do something to enemies (such as [[Kill It With Fire|set them on fire]]), they will let out a scream that goes on for about thirty seconds before they shut up.
** If you do something to enemies (such as [[Kill It with Fire|set them on fire]]), they will let out a scream that goes on for about thirty seconds before they shut up.
** '''Assuming control. Shepard, if I must tear you apart, I will. This hurts you.''' During combat, [[Boss in Mook Clothing]] [[Big Bad]] Harbinger is painfully able to spray comments about you and your teammates at about the same rate as his weapon.
** '''Assuming control. Shepard, if I must tear you apart, I will. This hurts you.''' During combat, [[Boss in Mook Clothing]] [[Big Bad]] Harbinger is painfully able to spray comments about you and your teammates at about the same rate as his weapon.
** The screams of the VI during the Overlord DLC seems designed to make you jump out of your seat and tear off your headphones. During the trek through the inert geth ship, the designers go out of their way to blurt out the noise at just the right time to scare the crap out of the player--they even lampshade it with a crew log about Halloween.
** The screams of the VI during the Overlord DLC seems designed to make you jump out of your seat and tear off your headphones. During the trek through the inert geth ship, the designers go out of their way to blurt out the noise at just the right time to scare the crap out of the player--they even lampshade it with a crew log about Halloween.
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** If anyone was actually thinking or hoping they would find all of the abducted colonists alive at the end and be able to save them, they were tragically mistaken.
** If anyone was actually thinking or hoping they would find all of the abducted colonists alive at the end and be able to save them, they were tragically mistaken.
** The ending of "Arrival" DLC is an enormous punch in the gut for both player and Shepard. {{spoiler|Shepard is forced to destroy an entire solar system and its 305,000 batarian inhabitants in order to prevent an imminent Reaper invasion. Hackett notes that even though he knows Shepard did the right thing, the Alliance ''will'' force him/her to pay for this and that the batarians will attempt to do the same thing.}}
** The ending of "Arrival" DLC is an enormous punch in the gut for both player and Shepard. {{spoiler|Shepard is forced to destroy an entire solar system and its 305,000 batarian inhabitants in order to prevent an imminent Reaper invasion. Hackett notes that even though he knows Shepard did the right thing, the Alliance ''will'' force him/her to pay for this and that the batarians will attempt to do the same thing.}}
* [[Replacement Scrappy|Replacement]] [[Scrappy Mechanic]]: The Mako planet-roving gets replaced with two: The Hammerhead, and planet scanning. Even [[Bio Ware]] admits that, in retrospect, planet scanning was handled poorly in ''Mass Effect 2''. On the official forums at least one [[Bio Ware]] employee has said that "nobody liked" it, and as a result the planet scanning system has been completely overhauled for ''[[Mass Effect 3 (Video Game)|Mass Effect 3]]'' so that it's less tedious and time-consuming.
* [[Replacement Scrappy|Replacement]] [[Scrappy Mechanic]]: The Mako planet-roving gets replaced with two: The Hammerhead, and planet scanning. Even [[BioWare]] admits that, in retrospect, planet scanning was handled poorly in ''Mass Effect 2''. On the official forums at least one [[BioWare]] employee has said that "nobody liked" it, and as a result the planet scanning system has been completely overhauled for ''[[Mass Effect 3]]'' so that it's less tedious and time-consuming.
* [[Rewatch Bonus]]: Keep an eye out for someone who has [[Memetic Mutation|assumed direct control]] when watching the surveillance footage on Freedom's Progress.
* [[Rewatch Bonus]]: Keep an eye out for someone who has [[Memetic Mutation|assumed direct control]] when watching the surveillance footage on Freedom's Progress.
* [[Ruined FOREVER]]:
* [[Ruined FOREVER]]:
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** Because there's [[Loads and Loads of Characters|twelve party members]], and they're largely interchangeable during missions, cutscenes often use the same animations for each character. This works fine for the most part, but can get strange if you have Garrus and/or Grunt in your party--their models are noticeably larger than the rest of the characters', meaning that an animation or pose which works for the other ten characters ends up...not working for Garrus or Grunt. For example, bring Garrus on Tali's loyalty mission--during {{spoiler|Tali's trial}}, check the background. Garrus is sitting in the stands...with his arms clipping through his legs.
** Because there's [[Loads and Loads of Characters|twelve party members]], and they're largely interchangeable during missions, cutscenes often use the same animations for each character. This works fine for the most part, but can get strange if you have Garrus and/or Grunt in your party--their models are noticeably larger than the rest of the characters', meaning that an animation or pose which works for the other ten characters ends up...not working for Garrus or Grunt. For example, bring Garrus on Tali's loyalty mission--during {{spoiler|Tali's trial}}, check the background. Garrus is sitting in the stands...with his arms clipping through his legs.
** Bringing Zaeed to Garrus' recruitment mission triggers an extra conversation between him and Tarak. At the end, there's a closeup of Tarak's face--''[http://i39.tinypic.com/23hqdu1.png with his head clipping through the camera]''.
** Bringing Zaeed to Garrus' recruitment mission triggers an extra conversation between him and Tarak. At the end, there's a closeup of Tarak's face--''[http://i39.tinypic.com/23hqdu1.png with his head clipping through the camera]''.
* [[Tainted By the Preview]]: The first teaser for the game was met by quite the reaction, as was [[Tattooed Crook|Jack's]] reveal.
* [[Tainted by the Preview]]: The first teaser for the game was met by quite the reaction, as was [[Tattooed Crook|Jack's]] reveal.
* [[Take That]]: Tela Vasir, at the cheapness of Vanguards.
* [[Take That]]: Tela Vasir, at the cheapness of Vanguards.
* [[Tear Jerker]]: There a couple moments in some of the characters' loyalty missions. But the big one is at the end of the Project Overlord DLC. {{spoiler|By the time Shepard has made it to the final boss, he/she has learned that Dr. Archer's exploited his autistic brother by integrating him with a VI, trapping him in a reality of perpetual suffering. After defeating the final boss, Shepard chews Archer out for what has happened to David, who now lives '''physically''' plugged into the facility's computer system.}}
* [[Tear Jerker]]: There a couple moments in some of the characters' loyalty missions. But the big one is at the end of the Project Overlord DLC. {{spoiler|By the time Shepard has made it to the final boss, he/she has learned that Dr. Archer's exploited his autistic brother by integrating him with a VI, trapping him in a reality of perpetual suffering. After defeating the final boss, Shepard chews Archer out for what has happened to David, who now lives '''physically''' plugged into the facility's computer system.}}
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* [[Fan Nickname]]: SuZe was her nickname before people knew it was "Jack". Short for "''Su''bject ''Ze''ro". It's fallen out of use now, probably because hardly anyone in the game calls her "Subject Zero."
* [[Fan Nickname]]: SuZe was her nickname before people knew it was "Jack". Short for "''Su''bject ''Ze''ro". It's fallen out of use now, probably because hardly anyone in the game calls her "Subject Zero."
* [[Jerkass Woobie]]: As revealed by her loyalty mission, {{spoiler|Jack was constantly tortured by Cerberus in order to turn her into the ultimate weapon. When she was a kid, she would be thrown into an arena to fight to the death against wild animals and other biotic kids, in addition to the brutality she had to endure from the scientists and guards.}}
* [[Jerkass Woobie]]: As revealed by her loyalty mission, {{spoiler|Jack was constantly tortured by Cerberus in order to turn her into the ultimate weapon. When she was a kid, she would be thrown into an arena to fight to the death against wild animals and other biotic kids, in addition to the brutality she had to endure from the scientists and guards.}}
* [[Woobie, Destroyer of Worlds|Woobie, Destroyer Of Worlds]]: See [[Jerkass Woobie]] above. Even after she gets some closure via her loyalty mission, she admits that she "still kinda want[s] to kill everyone [she] meet[s]. No offence."
* [[Woobie, Destroyer of Worlds]]: See [[Jerkass Woobie]] above. Even after she gets some closure via her loyalty mission, she admits that she "still kinda want[s] to kill everyone [she] meet[s]. No offence."


'''Jacob Taylor'''
'''Jacob Taylor'''
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* [[Memetic Mutation]]: Heavy risk... [http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=G4ze_R3TevE But the PRIIIIIZE].
* [[Memetic Mutation]]: Heavy risk... [http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=G4ze_R3TevE But the PRIIIIIZE].
* [[Narm Charm]]: His romance path is not known for being especially well-written, though it did provide a nice meme.
* [[Narm Charm]]: His romance path is not known for being especially well-written, though it did provide a nice meme.
* [[Tier Induced Scrappy]]: He is by far the weakest character in the game. His skills are Pull (an okay move, but useless against enemies with barriers), Incendiary Ammo (okay ammo power, but weak compared to others like Warp Ammo and Armor Piercing Ammo and redundant considering that Grunt and Shepard may also have it), and Barrier. His weapon selection could be worse, but he'd have to be able to use heavy weapons, which no one but Shepard can do, in order to make up for his shortcomings.
* [[Tier-Induced Scrappy]]: He is by far the weakest character in the game. His skills are Pull (an okay move, but useless against enemies with barriers), Incendiary Ammo (okay ammo power, but weak compared to others like Warp Ammo and Armor Piercing Ammo and redundant considering that Grunt and Shepard may also have it), and Barrier. His weapon selection could be worse, but he'd have to be able to use heavy weapons, which no one but Shepard can do, in order to make up for his shortcomings.
** What really screws him up is Barrier because the AI keeps auto-casting that for no reason. He is actually a pretty well-balanced character who is good at crowd-control thanks to Pull and Inferno Ammo and won't die as often as most of the other characters thanks to his high HP.
** What really screws him up is Barrier because the AI keeps auto-casting that for no reason. He is actually a pretty well-balanced character who is good at crowd-control thanks to Pull and Inferno Ammo and won't die as often as most of the other characters thanks to his high HP.
*** The Barrier problem is negated if you have the Lair of the Shadow Broker [[DLC]], as you can redistribute his talent points entirely and simply choose not to spend the leftover point on Barrier.
*** The Barrier problem is negated if you have the Lair of the Shadow Broker [[DLC]], as you can redistribute his talent points entirely and simply choose not to spend the leftover point on Barrier.
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* [[Base Breaker]]: Quite possibly one of the biggest examples in the entire trilogy. Most fans either love Miranda or absolutely loathe her. Its hard to find a fan who has a neutral opinion of her. Some find her hot, others find her blatant status as Fanservice (complete with many a shot of her ass) annoying. Some feel sorry for her, others think she's whiny and arrogant. And then there are some who don't like her for her [[Knight Templar|loyalty to Cerberus]]
* [[Base Breaker]]: Quite possibly one of the biggest examples in the entire trilogy. Most fans either love Miranda or absolutely loathe her. Its hard to find a fan who has a neutral opinion of her. Some find her hot, others find her blatant status as Fanservice (complete with many a shot of her ass) annoying. Some feel sorry for her, others think she's whiny and arrogant. And then there are some who don't like her for her [[Knight Templar|loyalty to Cerberus]]
* [[Canon Sue]]: [[Bio Ware]] uses Miranda to explore the entire concept of the [[Mary Sue|perfect human]]. She's unbelievably gorgeous, brilliant and skilled. She is those things because her father, an egotistical prick, designed her that way in a lab. [[Deconstructed Trope|Miranda is tortured by all of those gifts, seeing in them constant evidence of her father's influence.]]
* [[Canon Sue]]: [[BioWare]] uses Miranda to explore the entire concept of the [[Mary Sue|perfect human]]. She's unbelievably gorgeous, brilliant and skilled. She is those things because her father, an egotistical prick, designed her that way in a lab. [[Deconstructed Trope|Miranda is tortured by all of those gifts, seeing in them constant evidence of her father's influence.]]
* [[Jerkass Woobie]]
* [[Jerkass Woobie]]
* [[Memetic Mutation]]: DAT ASS.
* [[Memetic Mutation]]: DAT ASS.
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'''Aria T'Loak'''
'''Aria T'Loak'''


* [[Ensemble Darkhorse]]: [[Large Ham]]. [[Memetic Mutation|Memetic]] [[Precision F-Strike]]. [[Jerk With a Heart of Gold]]. [[Fetish Fuel Station Attendant]]. [[Badass]]. [[Worthy Opponent]] to one of the most popular characters in the fandom ([[Epileptic Trees|probably]]). Her popularity ''far'' overshadows [[One-Scene Wonder|her screen time]].
* [[Ensemble Darkhorse]]: [[Large Ham]]. [[Memetic Mutation|Memetic]] [[Precision F-Strike]]. [[Jerk with a Heart of Gold]]. [[Fetish Fuel Station Attendant]]. [[Badass]]. [[Worthy Opponent]] to one of the most popular characters in the fandom ([[Epileptic Trees|probably]]). Her popularity ''far'' overshadows [[One-Scene Wonder|her screen time]].
* [[Epileptic Trees]]: There are more than a few involving her, one being that she's acquainted with Wrex, {{spoiler|which is heavily hinted at in-game.}}
* [[Epileptic Trees]]: There are more than a few involving her, one being that she's acquainted with Wrex, {{spoiler|which is heavily hinted at in-game.}}
* [[Evil Is Sexy]]: Okay, Aria may not be straight-up evil, but she is a crime lord, and she's sexy even for an asari.
* [[Evil Is Sexy]]: Okay, Aria may not be straight-up evil, but she is a crime lord, and she's sexy even for an asari.
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'''Urz'''
'''Urz'''


* [[Ensemble Darkhorse]]: Quite a few players have expressed the desire to [[I'm Taking Her Home With Me|take Urz back to the Normandy with them]] after watching him follow Shepard adoringly around Tuchanka.
* [[Ensemble Darkhorse]]: Quite a few players have expressed the desire to [[I'm Taking Her Home with Me|take Urz back to the Normandy with them]] after watching him follow Shepard adoringly around Tuchanka.
* [[Ugly Cute]]: [http://images2.wikia.nocookie.net/__cb20100220175819/masseffect/images/f/f5/Varren.png Just look at that face].
* [[Ugly Cute]]: [http://images2.wikia.nocookie.net/__cb20100220175819/masseffect/images/f/f5/Varren.png Just look at that face].
** ''Good varren''.
** ''Good varren''.