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* In ''[[Star Trek]]'' fandom, Vulcans go through something similar called "Pon Farr." The very ''origin'' of [[Slash Fic]]s comes from corny situations where Spock had to mate with someone (Kirk) "or else." The various shows themselves found loopholes to get out of the implications.
* In ''[[Star Trek]]'' fandom, Vulcans go through something similar called "Pon Farr." The very ''origin'' of [[Slash Fic]]s comes from corny situations where Spock had to mate with someone (Kirk) "or else." The various shows themselves found loopholes to get out of the implications.
** It was 'Mate or Die' originally, but turned into 'Mate, Fight or Die' to give the writers an out in the ST: Voyager episode 'Blood Fever'. The idea in TOS 'Amok Time' was that if anyone challenged a Vulcan's right to his wife while he was in the throes of the blood fever they'd literally have to kill him to stop him. Later writers missed the point (perhaps intentionally) {{spoiler|that Spock was snapped out of Pon Farr by the shock of thinking he'd killed his friend. His line "It must have been the combat" was a cover for this (embarrassing) emotional reaction.}}
** It was 'Mate or Die' originally, but turned into 'Mate, Fight or Die' to give the writers an out in the ST: Voyager episode 'Blood Fever'. The idea in TOS 'Amok Time' was that if anyone challenged a Vulcan's right to his wife while he was in the throes of the blood fever they'd literally have to kill him to stop him. Later writers missed the point (perhaps intentionally) {{spoiler|that Spock was snapped out of Pon Farr by the shock of thinking he'd killed his friend. His line "It must have been the combat" was a cover for this (embarrassing) emotional reaction.}}
* Frequently done in ''[[The Lord of the Rings]]'' fanfic, often though not always with Elves. [http://tinni.s43.eatj.com/index.jsp This site] debunks the idea.
* Frequently done in ''[[The Lord of the Rings]]'' fanfic, often though not always with Elves. [https://web.archive.org/web/20080512092341/http://tinni.s43.eatj.com/index.jsp This site] debunks the idea.
{{quote|"This is a fanon invention that has Elves, who are dying either of wounds or grief, "bond" with another Elf or man, by mingling their blood, having sex and thus getting new strength; sort of leeching life off the other and forever living like that. In this case, if one of the Elves "bonded" dies then the remaining Elf must find someone else to bond with or also die. I found no explicit or implicit grounds for this in Tolkien's writing. Still a very interesting concept. Once again Laws and Customs of the Eldar, History of Middle-earth: Morgoth's Ring holds the most information regarding elven relationships."}}
{{quote|"This is a fanon invention that has Elves, who are dying either of wounds or grief, "bond" with another Elf or man, by mingling their blood, having sex and thus getting new strength; sort of leeching life off the other and forever living like that. In this case, if one of the Elves "bonded" dies then the remaining Elf must find someone else to bond with or also die. I found no explicit or implicit grounds for this in Tolkien's writing. Still a very interesting concept. Once again Laws and Customs of the Eldar, History of Middle-earth: Morgoth's Ring holds the most information regarding elven relationships."}}
* A [[Darker and Edgier]] ''[[Redwall]]'' fanfic used this to explain Veil's conception. Swartt had apparently no interest in Bluefen in canon, yet they had a kid. The characters involved are [[Talking Animal|anthropomorphic]] ferrets, and the females have a tendency to develop diseases of the bone marrow if they don't mate at the appropriate time. Sooo ...
* A [[Darker and Edgier]] ''[[Redwall]]'' fanfic used this to explain Veil's conception. Swartt had apparently no interest in Bluefen in canon, yet they had a kid. The characters involved are [[Talking Animal|anthropomorphic]] ferrets, and the females have a tendency to develop diseases of the bone marrow if they don't mate at the appropriate time. Sooo ...
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** ...I can't even BEGIN to describe how stupid this is...
** ...I can't even BEGIN to describe how stupid this is...
* This trope comes up fairly often in any given fandom. Often takes the form of, essentially, something akin to this: a character afflicted with a poison/drug/substance/aphrodisiac/etc that for whatever reason amps up their sex drive [[Up to Eleven|times eleven]]. Not only does it make them virtually crazy with lust, their partner is confronted with the knowledge that if the afflicted is not satiated they'll suffer horrible consequences ranging from extreme discomfort/injury, to insanity, to actual death. Mate or die, truly. Oh and having sex once isn't good enough. It's going to last for hours.
* This trope comes up fairly often in any given fandom. Often takes the form of, essentially, something akin to this: a character afflicted with a poison/drug/substance/aphrodisiac/etc that for whatever reason amps up their sex drive [[Up to Eleven|times eleven]]. Not only does it make them virtually crazy with lust, their partner is confronted with the knowledge that if the afflicted is not satiated they'll suffer horrible consequences ranging from extreme discomfort/injury, to insanity, to actual death. Mate or die, truly. Oh and having sex once isn't good enough. It's going to last for hours.
* A milder version comes up in quite a lot of [[My Little Pony: Friendship Is Magic|My Little Pony Friendship Is Magic]] lemons: Ponies have a mating season just like real horses (or as similar as the author's knowledge of horses allow). While they don't ''die'' if they don't have sex, they become quite obsessed with it and it makes anything but trying to get laid very hard, justifying OOC behaviour and the like. The end results vary: [http://www.fimfiction.net/story/3693/Why-Didn%27t-Ah-Stay-at-Th%27-Farm%3F In Why Didn't Ah Stay At The Farm], Big Macintosh [[Double Standard Rape (Female on Male)|makes the mistake]] of going into town during that time, while in [http://www.fimfiction.net/story/1306/Fun-Bus-to-Manehattan Fun Bus to Manehattan] the Mane 6 decides to counter the lack of eligible males in Ponville by just taking the bus to Manehattan for some quick sex tourism (NSFW, though the mood of the stories for each of the Mane 6 is actually quite different).
* A milder version comes up in quite a lot of [[My Little Pony: Friendship Is Magic|My Little Pony Friendship Is Magic]] lemons: Ponies have a mating season just like real horses (or as similar as the author's knowledge of horses allow). While they don't ''die'' if they don't have sex, they become quite obsessed with it and it makes anything but trying to get laid very hard, justifying OOC behaviour and the like. The end results vary: [http://www.fimfiction.net/story/3693/Why-Didn%27t-Ah-Stay-at-Th%27-Farm%3F In Why Didn't Ah Stay At The Farm], Big Macintosh [[Double Standard Rape (Female on Male)|makes the mistake]] of going into town during that time, while in [http://www.fimfiction.net/story/1306/Fun-Bus-to-Manehattan Fun Bus to Manehattan]{{Dead link}} the Mane 6 decides to counter the lack of eligible males in Ponville by just taking the bus to Manehattan for some quick sex tourism (NSFW, though the mood of the stories for each of the Mane 6 is actually quite different).


== Film ==
== Film ==
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** And Subverted: {{spoiler|Neone Washingtip}} knew she had to fulfill Pentacko's orders; but if only she'd known: {{spoiler|Consto}} wasn't even interested in sex! So even if she ''did'' get to get it on with him, he'd've killed her anyway.
** And Subverted: {{spoiler|Neone Washingtip}} knew she had to fulfill Pentacko's orders; but if only she'd known: {{spoiler|Consto}} wasn't even interested in sex! So even if she ''did'' get to get it on with him, he'd've killed her anyway.
** And Deconstructed: Neone Delft must Mate or Die because if she ever says no to her client, she'll get pumped full of lead. The client could always lie and cover things up with her; but then she begins to want his company and comfort. And he's too scared that Pentacko will begin spying on him to verify that the two are actually doing it.
** And Deconstructed: Neone Delft must Mate or Die because if she ever says no to her client, she'll get pumped full of lead. The client could always lie and cover things up with her; but then she begins to want his company and comfort. And he's too scared that Pentacko will begin spying on him to verify that the two are actually doing it.
* Mike Resnick wrote a parody of "The Cold Equations" called [http://www.fortunecity.com/tattooine/farmer/2/Catastrophe.htm "Catastrophe Baker and the Cold Equations"], in which the spaceship's pilot and the stowaway keep the temperature up by generating their own heat.
* Mike Resnick wrote a parody of "The Cold Equations" called [https://web.archive.org/web/20100906204141/http://www.fortunecity.com/tattooine/farmer/2/Catastrophe.htm "Catastrophe Baker and the Cold Equations"], in which the spaceship's pilot and the stowaway keep the temperature up by generating their own heat.
* In ''[[Women of the Otherworld]]'', Karl tries desperately to stay away from Hope, but ultimately is unable to because his inner wolf has chosen her as his mate and he can't bear to be away from her any longer. It gets to the point where he practically jumps her in her apartment (though he ''does'' let her know that at any point she can tell him to gtfo and he'll comply).
* In ''[[Women of the Otherworld]]'', Karl tries desperately to stay away from Hope, but ultimately is unable to because his inner wolf has chosen her as his mate and he can't bear to be away from her any longer. It gets to the point where he practically jumps her in her apartment (though he ''does'' let her know that at any point she can tell him to gtfo and he'll comply).
** Disturbingly, the next book in the series introduces the kumpania, a cult of inbred clairvoyants who are required by their own laws to produce a child within a year of marriage. Any who fail to comply go through what can easily be called group rape - [[Nightmare Fuel|the woman is forced to have sex with ''all'' the other adult males in the kumpania until she gets pregnant]].
** Disturbingly, the next book in the series introduces the kumpania, a cult of inbred clairvoyants who are required by their own laws to produce a child within a year of marriage. Any who fail to comply go through what can easily be called group rape - [[Nightmare Fuel|the woman is forced to have sex with ''all'' the other adult males in the kumpania until she gets pregnant]].