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* ''[[Star Wars]]''
* ''[[Star Wars]]''
** In ''[[Return of the Jedi]]'', Obi-Wan tells Luke that the statement "Darth Vader betrayed and murdered your father" is, indeed, true "from a certain point of view." This is a [[Retcon]], but it's a [[Tropes Are Tools|pretty good]] [[Retcon]], and rather tragic in context. ("You were my brother, Anakin! I loved you!" [[I Have No Son|Note the use of the past tense.]]) It's therefore understandable that Obi Wan feels betrayed and horrified and very bitter, and that the old man would put off telling Luke his daddy is actually an evil Sith Lord as long as possible (for Luke's sake, if for no other reason). In the ''original'' draft writen by Leigh Brackett, Anakin and Darth Vader were different persons, and indeed Vader killed Anakin after turning to the dark side. Also, Anakin was supposed to be a force ghost that would help Luke (that role was later filled by Obi-Wan). However, Brackett died, and Lucas and Brackett's substitute Lawrence Kasdan rewrote the script, adding the famous twist, so it's obvious that they had to fix "Darth Vader betrayed and killed your father" somehow. In a clear case of [[Fridge Brilliance]] upon rewatching [[A New Hope]], before Alec Guinness delivers the original line he fractionally hesitates with a considering look. You can practically see him considering what would be the best thing to tell Luke. That hesitation is amazingly lucky for the [[Retcon]].
** In ''[[Return of the Jedi]]'', Obi-Wan tells Luke that the statement "Darth Vader betrayed and murdered your father" is, indeed, true "from a certain point of view." This is a [[Retcon]], but it's a [[Tropes Are Tools|pretty good]] [[Retcon]], and rather tragic in context. ("You were my brother, Anakin! I loved you!" [[I Have No Son|Note the use of the past tense.]]) It's therefore understandable that Obi Wan feels betrayed and horrified and very bitter, and that the old man would put off telling Luke his daddy is actually an evil Sith Lord as long as possible (for Luke's sake, if for no other reason). In the ''original'' draft writen by Leigh Brackett, Anakin and Darth Vader were different persons, and indeed Vader killed Anakin after turning to the dark side. Also, Anakin was supposed to be a force ghost that would help Luke (that role was later filled by Obi-Wan). However, Brackett died, and Lucas and Brackett's substitute Lawrence Kasdan rewrote the script, adding the famous twist, so it's obvious that they had to fix "Darth Vader betrayed and killed your father" somehow. In a clear case of [[Fridge Brilliance]] upon rewatching [[A New Hope]], before Alec Guinness delivers the original line he fractionally hesitates with a considering look. You can practically see him considering what would be the best thing to tell Luke. That hesitation is amazingly lucky for the [[Retcon]].
** While this looks weaselly, it does fit later hints that the Jedi see the Sith as something like the walking dead, former people who've been turned into monsters by the Dark Side. Mace Windu says "which was ''destroyed'', the master or the apprentice?"—not, say, ''slain''. Obi Wan and Qui Gon referred to Darth Maul as "[[It Is Dehumanizing|it]]", while Yoda later warns Obi Wan that Anakin is "gone" and has been "consumed" by Darth Vader - a line probably written for the purpose of bolstering the point-of-view of Obi Wan's original statement to Luke.
** While this looks weaselly, it does fit later hints that the Jedi see the Sith as something like the walking dead, former people who've been turned into monsters by the Dark Side. Mace Windu says "which was ''destroyed'', the master or the apprentice?"—not, say, ''slain''. Obi-Wan and Qui-Gon referred to Darth Maul as "[["It" Is Dehumanizing|it]]", while Yoda later warns Obi-Wan that Anakin is "gone" and has been "consumed" by Darth Vader - a line probably written for the purpose of bolstering the point-of-view of Obi-Wan's original statement to Luke.
*** Palpatine/Sidious does something similar, but to more sinister intent, when he tells the newly-suited Vader that in his anger he killed Padme. It wasn't Anakin/Vader's force-choke that really killed her, but it ''was'' her shock at Anakin's betrayal that caused her to lose the will to live. So, from a certain point of view, Palpatine was telling the truth.
*** Palpatine/Sidious does something similar, but to more sinister intent, when he tells the newly-suited Vader that in his anger he killed Padme. It wasn't Anakin/Vader's force-choke that really killed her, but it ''was'' her shock at Anakin's betrayal that caused her to lose the will to live. So, from a certain point of view, Palpatine was telling the truth.
*** According to the novelization, and as far as Palpatine knows, the damage to her windpipe ''is'' what killed her. The explanation for the whole "lost the will to live" thing is that the robot doctors were built by the alien race that run the base she dies on and just made something up to cover for not actually knowing what they were doing when dealing with a human.
*** According to the novelization, and as far as Palpatine knows, the damage to her windpipe ''is'' what killed her. The explanation for the whole "lost the will to live" thing is that the robot doctors were built by the alien race that run the base she dies on and just made something up to cover for not actually knowing what they were doing when dealing with a human.