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** Maybe the GF marines are racist bastards.
** Maybe the GF marines are racist bastards.
** It's to distinguish themselves from their rivals, the Space Ninjas.
** It's to distinguish themselves from their rivals, the Space Ninjas.
*** You got your [[Won Ton Soup|Space Trucker Cooking Opera]] in my [[Action Adventure]] [[Platformer]]!
*** You got your [[Wonton Soup|Space Trucker Cooking Opera]] in my [[Action Adventure]] [[Platformer]]!
*** Their proper name is the Chozo, and you shall address them as such.
*** Their proper name is the Chozo, and you shall address them as such.
*** Or perhaps the Chozo are the Space Tengu, who taught Samus their style of Space Ninjutsu to better defeat Space Pirates.
*** Or perhaps the Chozo are the Space Tengu, who taught Samus their style of Space Ninjutsu to better defeat Space Pirates.
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**** [[Wild Mass Guessing|Ronald Urtrag]], '''[[Gentleman Adventurer|Gentleman Taxonomist]]''', would like a word with you.
**** [[Wild Mass Guessing|Ronald Urtrag]], '''[[Gentleman Adventurer|Gentleman Taxonomist]]''', would like a word with you.
** As a side note, I'm fond of the theory that, after they lost Pirate Homeworld (best planet name ever) to the Galactic Federation, they needed help. The Kihunters offered it. This caused a great deal of confusion for the Federation, as the Kihunters were also space pirates. In order to clear things up, they hastily named the original race after their sole remaining base. Thus, Super Metroid and Metroid Fusion call them "Zebesians".
** As a side note, I'm fond of the theory that, after they lost Pirate Homeworld (best planet name ever) to the Galactic Federation, they needed help. The Kihunters offered it. This caused a great deal of confusion for the Federation, as the Kihunters were also space pirates. In order to clear things up, they hastily named the original race after their sole remaining base. Thus, Super Metroid and Metroid Fusion call them "Zebesians".
*** Yeah, hey, that's almost as good as [[Star Fox (Video Game)|Dinosaur Planet]].
*** Yeah, hey, that's almost as good as [[Star Fox (series)|Dinosaur Planet]].
** "Space Pirates" could just be their syndicate name, and Zebesians are only the Space Pirates that come from Zebes. Ridley is a Space Pirate, and he looks nothing like his underlings. Likewise, Pirate Commandos look nothing like Pirate grunts. Maybe Pirate Homeworld is just the capital of a multi-species galactic criminal syndicate.
** "Space Pirates" could just be their syndicate name, and Zebesians are only the Space Pirates that come from Zebes. Ridley is a Space Pirate, and he looks nothing like his underlings. Likewise, Pirate Commandos look nothing like Pirate grunts. Maybe Pirate Homeworld is just the capital of a multi-species galactic criminal syndicate.
*** The Space pirates ''aren't'' a single species; they're a criminal empire made up of several different species. The Space Pirate mooks in the Prime series are a different species than the ones in the 2D games, which is why the former are reptilian while the latter are more Insectile=Crustacean. The 2D game Space Pirates are canonically called Zebesians, but they aren't FROM Zebes. They just appropriated the name after conquering it, the same way that most people who call themselves "American" are actually 100% European in all but place of birth.
*** The Space pirates ''aren't'' a single species; they're a criminal empire made up of several different species. The Space Pirate mooks in the Prime series are a different species than the ones in the 2D games, which is why the former are reptilian while the latter are more Insectile=Crustacean. The 2D game Space Pirates are canonically called Zebesians, but they aren't FROM Zebes. They just appropriated the name after conquering it, the same way that most people who call themselves "American" are actually 100% European in all but place of birth.
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** The best part being that this problem was introduced with Prime II: Echoes, the original Metroid Prime was designed so there were no infinite fall areas to worry about, at least that you could reach.
** The best part being that this problem was introduced with Prime II: Echoes, the original Metroid Prime was designed so there were no infinite fall areas to worry about, at least that you could reach.
** Just remember that in this series, Hunters is essentially too bollocksed up to really count. Especially with random things like taking appreciable fall damage.
** Just remember that in this series, Hunters is essentially too bollocksed up to really count. Especially with random things like taking appreciable fall damage.
** It works [[Non Lethal Bottomless Pits|the same way it works]] for [[The Legend of Zelda (Franchise)|Link]].
** It works [[Non Lethal Bottomless Pits|the same way it works]] for [[The Legend of Zelda|Link]].
*** I have a theory regarding this. Essentially, every time you fall in either series, you lose health and are then returned to start, yeah? Easy fix: In Zelda games, Link is warped out of certain death, but the spell needs life energy to run so fast. Same deal for Metroid, except it only pulls from the suits shields to activate the teleport module. The only hole in this logic is why she couldn't just use the short range teleport all the time, but probably doesn't to conserve her shielding. Also, the 'oof' probably means it doesn't cancel the kinetic motion. so she still smacks the ground at her maximum fall speed, which her suits inertial dampers took on.
*** I have a theory regarding this. Essentially, every time you fall in either series, you lose health and are then returned to start, yeah? Easy fix: In Zelda games, Link is warped out of certain death, but the spell needs life energy to run so fast. Same deal for Metroid, except it only pulls from the suits shields to activate the teleport module. The only hole in this logic is why she couldn't just use the short range teleport all the time, but probably doesn't to conserve her shielding. Also, the 'oof' probably means it doesn't cancel the kinetic motion. so she still smacks the ground at her maximum fall speed, which her suits inertial dampers took on.
*** Time distortion/reversal. Can only be used for a short period and explains why you return to the platform, but can't hop over to the next platform with it. It can also be linked to a save point which provides the extra power to bring you the farther distance.
*** Time distortion/reversal. Can only be used for a short period and explains why you return to the platform, but can't hop over to the next platform with it. It can also be linked to a save point which provides the extra power to bring you the farther distance.
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** That was probably the point.
** That was probably the point.
*** I would submit that this is the point of the entire series.
*** I would submit that this is the point of the entire series.
*** Yeah, that was definitely the point of the drifts. The atmosphere is GREAT, too. I felt like I was playing a videogame version of ''[[The Thing (Film)|The Thing]]'' during that section.
*** Yeah, that was definitely the point of the drifts. The atmosphere is GREAT, too. I felt like I was playing a videogame version of ''[[The Thing (film)|The Thing]]'' during that section.
*** Really? It always made me feel hopeful for some reason...
*** Really? It always made me feel hopeful for some reason...
* In Metroid Fusion, Samus is attacked by the X and, as she claims, some parts of her armor are surgically removed, radically altering her physical appearance... This is a way to explain how the Samus from fusion is different from her Prime version... but how is possible that she turn from [http://www.nbrid.net/images/other/photo_samus0.jpg THIS] to [http://thisischris.com/feature/2005/img/metroidfusion12.png THIS]? No Just No.
* In Metroid Fusion, Samus is attacked by the X and, as she claims, some parts of her armor are surgically removed, radically altering her physical appearance... This is a way to explain how the Samus from fusion is different from her Prime version... but how is possible that she turn from [http://www.nbrid.net/images/other/photo_samus0.jpg THIS] to [http://thisischris.com/feature/2005/img/metroidfusion12.png THIS]? No Just No.
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** This troper's guess is that the ice beam can freeze enemies in midair by the use of anti-grav particles in the shot. Of course, this will get shot down rather quickly.
** This troper's guess is that the ice beam can freeze enemies in midair by the use of anti-grav particles in the shot. Of course, this will get shot down rather quickly.
** According to ''Hunters'', the Judicator is near Absolute Zero. Since the Ice Beam is better in every way, it presumably just broke physics rather spectacularly. ''Absolute freakin' Zero.''
** According to ''Hunters'', the Judicator is near Absolute Zero. Since the Ice Beam is better in every way, it presumably just broke physics rather spectacularly. ''Absolute freakin' Zero.''
** Alternatively, they mistranslated it from Chozo, and "Ice Beam" was actually supposed to be translated as "[[Dr. Horribles Sing Along Blog|Freeze Ray]]"
** Alternatively, they mistranslated it from Chozo, and "Ice Beam" was actually supposed to be translated as "[[Dr. Horrible's Sing-Along Blog|Freeze Ray]]"
** For what it's worth, In other M flying enemies hit with the freeze beem now freeze and clatter to the floor insteaed of staying aloft. Some shatter, some don't.
** For what it's worth, In other M flying enemies hit with the freeze beem now freeze and clatter to the floor insteaed of staying aloft. Some shatter, some don't.
** Better yet, how is it possible that the Ice Beam works at all in Norfair's lava rooms? The rooms are so hot that Samus has to have a special suit just to survive the heat, but the heat doesn't melt the ice? And yet, enemies can stay frozen just as long as the other areas.
** Better yet, how is it possible that the Ice Beam works at all in Norfair's lava rooms? The rooms are so hot that Samus has to have a special suit just to survive the heat, but the heat doesn't melt the ice? And yet, enemies can stay frozen just as long as the other areas.
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******** If that were true, and I don't think the module protecting Samus was ever said, the Ing would not have been able to steal it or possess the Alpha Splinter, since his Dark form had it. The more likely explanation is that either Samus or the suit is simply unable to be possessed due to Chozo foresight/wizarding or sheer willpower.
******** If that were true, and I don't think the module protecting Samus was ever said, the Ing would not have been able to steal it or possess the Alpha Splinter, since his Dark form had it. The more likely explanation is that either Samus or the suit is simply unable to be possessed due to Chozo foresight/wizarding or sheer willpower.
********* It was specifically stated in the log book entry for the transfer module that its core contains the Light of Aether which prevents Samus from being possessed.
********* It was specifically stated in the log book entry for the transfer module that its core contains the Light of Aether which prevents Samus from being possessed.
********** I think the transfer module doesn't do anything to the Ing. If it did, they wouldn't be able to use it to steal Aether's energy. Since it's made of light, though, when Samus added it to her suit, it basically made it immpossible for Ing to possess her. I imagine the light has a [[Weakened By the Light|burning effect]]...
********** I think the transfer module doesn't do anything to the Ing. If it did, they wouldn't be able to use it to steal Aether's energy. Since it's made of light, though, when Samus added it to her suit, it basically made it immpossible for Ing to possess her. I imagine the light has a [[Weakened by the Light|burning effect]]...
*********** It is stated in-game that holding the transfer module immunizes you to possession. The Ing can take it and use it just fine, such as the one leading the final attack on U-Mos that possessed an Alpha Splinter, they just can't possess whatever being is holding it. [[Recursive Reality|Which means that particular Ing couldn't be possessed by its fellow Ing]], because I heard you like Ings but we can't put an Ing in your Ing.
*********** It is stated in-game that holding the transfer module immunizes you to possession. The Ing can take it and use it just fine, such as the one leading the final attack on U-Mos that possessed an Alpha Splinter, they just can't possess whatever being is holding it. [[Recursive Reality|Which means that particular Ing couldn't be possessed by its fellow Ing]], because I heard you like Ings but we can't put an Ing in your Ing.
* Who packed BSL with enough explosive charges to take a ''planet'' with it when the self-destruct goes off? Whoever they are, they have [[Memetic Mutation|vapor for brains]].
* Who packed BSL with enough explosive charges to take a ''planet'' with it when the self-destruct goes off? Whoever they are, they have [[Memetic Mutation|vapor for brains]].