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{{quote|''"I felt a great disturbance in the Force, as if millions of voices suddenly cried out in terror, and were suddenly silenced. I fear something terrible has happened."''|'''Obi-Wan Kenobi''', ''[[Star Wars]]: [[A New Hope]]''}}
{{quote|''"I felt a great disturbance in the Force, as if millions of voices suddenly cried out in terror, and were suddenly silenced. I fear something terrible has happened."''|'''Obi-Wan Kenobi''', ''[[Star Wars]]: [[A New Hope]]''}}


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== Other Examples ==
* Hard to decide when [[Magnificent Bastard|Rotti]] [[Retired Monster|Largo]] crosses the line in [[Repo! The Genetic Opera|Repo]]! [[Repo! The Genetic Opera|The Genetic Opera]], but between {{spoiler|Poisoning Marni and convincing Nathan it was his own ineptitude, turning Nathan himself into a [[Tragic Villain]], pressing Mag into white slavery and then murdering her when she shows defiance, grooming Shilo as the next head of [[Cloudcuckooland|Geneco]]}}. and sponsoring laws that ''legalize murder'' it must have happened somewhere along the way. Even compared to [[Crapsack World|the every day evils of the population]] he is beyond redemption, especially when you realize the odds that [[The Plague]] that caused mass organ failure [[Fridge Logic|was probably something]] [[Wild Mass Guessing|he cooked up, too]]. If that is the case, I'd call ''that'' the line.
* Hard to decide when [[Magnificent Bastard|Rotti]] [[Retired Monster|Largo]] crosses the line in [[Repo! The Genetic Opera|Repo]]! [[Repo! The Genetic Opera|The Genetic Opera]], but between {{spoiler|Poisoning Marni and convincing Nathan it was his own ineptitude, turning Nathan himself into a [[Tragic Villain]], pressing Mag into white slavery and then murdering her when she shows defiance, grooming Shilo as the next head of [[Cloudcuckooland|Geneco]]}}. and sponsoring laws that ''legalize murder'' it must have happened somewhere along the way. Even compared to [[Crapsack World|the every day evils of the population]] he is beyond redemption, especially when you realize the odds that [[The Plague]] that caused mass organ failure [[Fridge Logic|was probably something]] [[Wild Mass Guessing|he cooked up, too]]. If that is the case, I'd call ''that'' the line.
* One of the most famous crossings of the Horizon: [[Earthshattering Kaboom|the destruction of Alderaan]] (a planet implied to have millions of innocent civilians living there) by the Death Star in ''[[Star Wars]]: [[A New Hope]]''. [[The Dragon|Vader]] is considered [[Evil Is Cool|darkly awesome]], but not as many people feel that way about [[Complete Monster|Grand Moff Tarkin]], the one who ordered the whole thing, and doesn't seem to have a second thought about it. In case Leia's reaction didn't convince you that there were millions of people on that planet, Obi Wan's reaction confirmed it. The [[Expanded Universe]] tries to humanize Tarkin occasionally. It generally fails - even when he's having an affair with his [[Evil Redhead]] protege (who is, incidentally, the only person who can make him laugh...yes, Tarkin has a sense of humor), he still comes across as a [[Complete Monster]] with no redeeming qualities. This was a chilling example of the "Banality of Evil." Vader and Palpatine are Sith lords, but Tarkin is an ordinary guy, no different from you or me, who is just doing his job. His job happens to be killing billions of innocent people. Which he ''likes'' to do.
* One of the most famous crossings of the Horizon: [[Earthshattering Kaboom|the destruction of Alderaan]] (a planet implied to have millions of innocent civilians living there) by the Death Star in ''[[Star Wars]]: [[A New Hope]]''. [[The Dragon|Vader]] is considered [[Evil Is Cool|darkly awesome]], but not as many people feel that way about [[Complete Monster|Grand Moff Tarkin]], the one who ordered the whole thing, and doesn't seem to have a second thought about it. In case Leia's reaction didn't convince you that there were millions of people on that planet, Obi Wan's reaction confirmed it. The [[Expanded Universe]] tries to humanize Tarkin occasionally. It generally fails - even when he's having an affair with his [[Evil Redhead]] protege (who is, incidentally, the only person who can make him laugh...yes, Tarkin has a sense of humor), he still comes across as a [[Complete Monster]] with no redeeming qualities. This was a chilling example of the "Banality of Evil." Vader and Palpatine are Sith lords, but Tarkin is an ordinary guy, no different from you or me, who is just doing his job. His job happens to be killing billions of innocent people. Which he ''likes'' to do.
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* From Sam Raimi's ''[[Spider-Man]]'' films, we had the Green Goblin/Norman Osborn cross it in the first movie when he forced Spider-Man to choose between saving Mary-Jane or a lift full of ''children'' from falling to their deaths. He had other moments that could qualify such as setting a building on fire to lure Spider-Man to him or hospitalizing Aunt May, a ''harmless old woman'' to get to Peter, but it was this [[Sadistic Choice]] that showed how low the Goblin could sink when it comes to hurting Spider-Man.
* From Sam Raimi's ''[[Spider-Man]]'' films, we had the Green Goblin/Norman Osborn cross it in the first movie when he forced Spider-Man to choose between saving Mary-Jane or a lift full of ''children'' from falling to their deaths. He had other moments that could qualify such as setting a building on fire to lure Spider-Man to him or hospitalizing Aunt May, a ''harmless old woman'' to get to Peter, but it was this [[Sadistic Choice]] that showed how low the Goblin could sink when it comes to hurting Spider-Man.


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