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So, where are we left? We can also say that whether it's Adam or Lilith, both end up in a [[Suicidal Cosmic Temper Tantrum]]. But, if Seele is just obsessed with a [[Suicidal Cosmic Temper Tantrum]], why not do it with letting the supposedly "[[Omnicidal Maniac]]" angels let it do the majority of the fuckup for them? Why not simply tie up Eva-01 with the Hand of Gendo and a Lance of Longinus up on the Empire State Building and let the angels take care of the business? Or even better, why need Evas at all? Why be such douchebags who screwed-up the mental and emotional life of innocent 14-year-olds? They can just fuse Adam and Lilith, create a god, and pretty much use the god's "omnipotent powers" to [[Deus Ex Machina]] the angels out of existence.
So, where are we left? We can also say that whether it's Adam or Lilith, both end up in a [[Suicidal Cosmic Temper Tantrum]]. But, if Seele is just obsessed with a [[Suicidal Cosmic Temper Tantrum]], why not do it with letting the supposedly "[[Omnicidal Maniac]]" angels let it do the majority of the fuckup for them? Why not simply tie up Eva-01 with the Hand of Gendo and a Lance of Longinus up on the Empire State Building and let the angels take care of the business? Or even better, why need Evas at all? Why be such douchebags who screwed-up the mental and emotional life of innocent 14-year-olds? They can just fuse Adam and Lilith, create a god, and pretty much use the god's "omnipotent powers" to [[Deus Ex Machina]] the angels out of existence.


Well, besides the fact that if a god was created on the first try and then used against the Angels the plot would end up as either a boring [[God Mode Sue]] or a [[Space Runaway Ideon]] ripoff if the Angels are at least a challenge with truly Lovecraftian superpowers, we might as well assume that the Angels are going to fuck up Instrumentality so badly it instead prevents Instrumentality and leads to the Angels becoming Kaworu-esque humans. Seele, being the douchebags that they are, instead inverted the whole fact and said that "the Angels are going to annihilate us and the only pathway for humanity's survival is for us to strike first". It can be asked, why go to such lengths? There are like a hundred ways for the destruction of humanity, right? Answer: Human Nature. Sure, Seele might be [[Omnicidal Maniac]] [[Nietzsche Wannabe|Nietzsche Wannabes]], but when there's an Omnicidal Maniac there's going to be a bunch of heroes going to stop him in their will to survive. And no matter how convincing an Omnicidal Maniac's [[Hannibal Lecture]] may be, the majority will always be in the support of the heroes who "save the day". Asteroid Impact? No problem, we'll just blow it up. [[The Virus]]? We'll cure it. Nuclear bombs? [[Zombie Apocalypse]]? [[Nanomachines]]? [[Wave Motion Gun|Wave Motion Guns]]? Ordinary waking up [[Eldritch Abomination|Eldritch Abominations]] from the Great Beyond? [[Did You Just Punch Out Cthulhu?|No problem with the power of the Human FIST!!!!]] And a bit of [[For Science!|Science]]. Basically, Seele's plot involved turning the Human Fist against those innocent Cthulhus out there whose only wish is to [[Become a Real Boy]] but cannot speak and thus are automatically [[Acceptable Targets]] by the [[Chewbacca Defense]], said punching out Cthulhu is merely a distraction designed to further Seele's real goal, which is actually backstabbing humanity to death in the form of a Yog-Sothoth who will eat humanity's souls once and for all. Which is fitting of an [[Evil Plan]]. Of course, that didn't prevent Instrumentality from still being fucked-up, since there is another backstabber by the name of Gendo Ikari. You may also ask, didn't Kaworu said something about him annihilating all of humanity? Yes he did, but since this is Kaworu he might as well be speaking parables, and his destroy all humans assumption is simply a metaphor for Shinji's solipsism and impending willingness to commit suicide. Also, since Kaworu is an agent of Seele rather than an actual Angel, he might be as well an actual Adam who simply made the decision of backstabbing Seele, like Gendo.
Well, besides the fact that if a god was created on the first try and then used against the Angels the plot would end up as either a boring [[God Mode Sue]] or a [[Space Runaway Ideon]] ripoff if the Angels are at least a challenge with truly Lovecraftian superpowers, we might as well assume that the Angels are going to fuck up Instrumentality so badly it instead prevents Instrumentality and leads to the Angels becoming Kaworu-esque humans. Seele, being the douchebags that they are, instead inverted the whole fact and said that "the Angels are going to annihilate us and the only pathway for humanity's survival is for us to strike first". It can be asked, why go to such lengths? There are like a hundred ways for the destruction of humanity, right? Answer: Human Nature. Sure, Seele might be [[Omnicidal Maniac]] [[Nietzsche Wannabe]]s, but when there's an Omnicidal Maniac there's going to be a bunch of heroes going to stop him in their will to survive. And no matter how convincing an Omnicidal Maniac's [[Hannibal Lecture]] may be, the majority will always be in the support of the heroes who "save the day". Asteroid Impact? No problem, we'll just blow it up. [[The Virus]]? We'll cure it. Nuclear bombs? [[Zombie Apocalypse]]? [[Nanomachines]]? [[Wave Motion Gun]]s? Ordinary waking up [[Eldritch Abomination]]s from the Great Beyond? [[Did You Just Punch Out Cthulhu?|No problem with the power of the Human FIST!!!!]] And a bit of [[For Science!|Science]]. Basically, Seele's plot involved turning the Human Fist against those innocent Cthulhus out there whose only wish is to [[Become a Real Boy]] but cannot speak and thus are automatically [[Acceptable Targets]] by the [[Chewbacca Defense]], said punching out Cthulhu is merely a distraction designed to further Seele's real goal, which is actually backstabbing humanity to death in the form of a Yog-Sothoth who will eat humanity's souls once and for all. Which is fitting of an [[Evil Plan]]. Of course, that didn't prevent Instrumentality from still being fucked-up, since there is another backstabber by the name of Gendo Ikari. You may also ask, didn't Kaworu said something about him annihilating all of humanity? Yes he did, but since this is Kaworu he might as well be speaking parables, and his destroy all humans assumption is simply a metaphor for Shinji's solipsism and impending willingness to commit suicide. Also, since Kaworu is an agent of Seele rather than an actual Angel, he might be as well an actual Adam who simply made the decision of backstabbing Seele, like Gendo.


== The real reason why Seele planned the Instrumentality is solely because they are extremely paranoid and fearful about Death / Hell / Gehenna / Tartarus / Underworld / The Afterlife / something like that ==
== The real reason why Seele planned the Instrumentality is solely because they are extremely paranoid and fearful about Death / Hell / Gehenna / Tartarus / Underworld / The Afterlife / something like that ==
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== The entire series takes place during Instrumentality ==
== The entire series takes place during Instrumentality ==
An alternate take of the above: Shinji is too late arriving at Tokyo-3. In the opening of the first episode, the shockwave that rocks the city is not from explosives, but from Sachiel (who is actually the only Adam-based life that exists in the ''real'' world) making psychic contact with and activating Lilith, thus initiating Third Impact. Vaguely supported by the appearance of soul-collecting Rei. Humanity doesn't realize this, and their combined delusion of continuing their lives forces Instrumentality to create an illusory world for all the souls within it. Only objects with a psychic presence (''id est'', an AT Field and therefore a soul) are given a non-illusory or functional form within this Intrumentality; thus, in this world human weapons are utterly ineffective against the Angels, whilst the Evas, which have souls, easily dispatch them. Shinji slowly goes mad as he realizes that he can [[The Matrix|See the Code]], so to speak; in-series "Instrumentality" occurs when he becomes "the One," takes control of Instrumentality through Rei and Unit 01, and breaks down the illusion for everyone. Both EOTV and EOE are valid endings, with the two conflicting desires in Shinji -- to live in the real world he doesn't know, potentially ruined beyond recognition, or to continue life as the god of his own illusory world -- causing him to split into two distinct personalities. The personality split may occur ''after'' his reappearance on "real" Earth, with Rei appearing once more to collect the unwilling portion and close the metaphorical book.
An alternate take of the above: Shinji is too late arriving at Tokyo-3. In the opening of the first episode, the shockwave that rocks the city is not from explosives, but from Sachiel (who is actually the only Adam-based life that exists in the ''real'' world) making psychic contact with and activating Lilith, thus initiating Third Impact. Vaguely supported by the appearance of soul-collecting Rei. Humanity doesn't realize this, and their combined delusion of continuing their lives forces Instrumentality to create an illusory world for all the souls within it. Only objects with a psychic presence (''id est'', an AT Field and therefore a soul) are given a non-illusory or functional form within this Intrumentality; thus, in this world human weapons are utterly ineffective against the Angels, whilst the Evas, which have souls, easily dispatch them. Shinji slowly goes mad as he realizes that he can [[The Matrix|See the Code]], so to speak; in-series "Instrumentality" occurs when he becomes "the One," takes control of Instrumentality through Rei and Unit 01, and breaks down the illusion for everyone. Both EOTV and EOE are valid endings, with the two conflicting desires in Shinji—to live in the real world he doesn't know, potentially ruined beyond recognition, or to continue life as the god of his own illusory world—causing him to split into two distinct personalities. The personality split may occur ''after'' his reappearance on "real" Earth, with Rei appearing once more to collect the unwilling portion and close the metaphorical book.
** ...and this should be The Matrix ''n''th Renaissance.
** ...and this should be The Matrix ''n''th Renaissance.


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== The so-called [[Alternate Universe]] sequence in episode 26 is real and is the near future of former NERV members. ==
== The so-called [[Alternate Universe]] sequence in episode 26 is real and is the near future of former NERV members. ==
With the Angels done and the Evangelions now redundant, NERV was disbanded. The interactions in episode 25 allowed Shinji, Rei, Asuka and Misato to better understand each other and come to terms with their quirks -- most notably Shinji, who realized that being an Eva pilot is not the only possible future for him. This probably involved some memory wipes to remove the horrid memories that resulted in them growing so messed up in the first place. As for the movie? [[Fanon Discontinuity|Naaaah, no thank you, not today!]] Also, some people come back to life.
With the Angels done and the Evangelions now redundant, NERV was disbanded. The interactions in episode 25 allowed Shinji, Rei, Asuka and Misato to better understand each other and come to terms with their quirks—most notably Shinji, who realized that being an Eva pilot is not the only possible future for him. This probably involved some memory wipes to remove the horrid memories that resulted in them growing so messed up in the first place. As for the movie? [[Fanon Discontinuity|Naaaah, no thank you, not today!]] Also, some people come back to life.


== Everything in the show is a dream of Pen-Pen the penguin, who is God. ==
== Everything in the show is a dream of Pen-Pen the penguin, who is God. ==
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*** That totally undermines anyone's individuality though. Its also highly derogatory that 3 aspects of the main 14 year old male character's crushes are embodied in this one person following the end. Especially considering the whole point if someone wants to enough, they can reject instrumentality as Shinji did. Misato was dead and Rei was the instigator, so if anyone had a reason to reject it, it was Asuka. I get the composite character thing, but that was probably a thematic choice, but the disgust is pure Asuka. I mean, It just makes sense!
*** That totally undermines anyone's individuality though. Its also highly derogatory that 3 aspects of the main 14 year old male character's crushes are embodied in this one person following the end. Especially considering the whole point if someone wants to enough, they can reject instrumentality as Shinji did. Misato was dead and Rei was the instigator, so if anyone had a reason to reject it, it was Asuka. I get the composite character thing, but that was probably a thematic choice, but the disgust is pure Asuka. I mean, It just makes sense!
** An alternate idea that comes to mind is that Shinji wished for a much lighter, less serious version of the world as suggested, but the similarities between this idea and the end of [[The Big O]] are staggering enough to suggest Yui Ikari is this universe's equivalent of Angel, all theme naming aside.
** An alternate idea that comes to mind is that Shinji wished for a much lighter, less serious version of the world as suggested, but the similarities between this idea and the end of [[The Big O]] are staggering enough to suggest Yui Ikari is this universe's equivalent of Angel, all theme naming aside.
* If the movies are a [[Peggy Sue]] -- that is, if one of the characters has arrived back at the beginning of the story with foreknowledge of the original series -- the obvious candidate is ''Misato''. She acts differently from her original self, being somewhat more mature and treating Shinji as less of a child (though that could be because most of the "domestic" scenes were cut, leaving only her [[Badass]] commanding officer moments.) Most importantly, she knows about Lilith, and shows her to Shinji around 18 episodes ahead of schedule -- the one major plot departure in the first movie from the series. This goes a long way to help motivate Shinji fight Ramiel...
* If the movies are a [[Peggy Sue]]—that is, if one of the characters has arrived back at the beginning of the story with foreknowledge of the original series—the obvious candidate is ''Misato''. She acts differently from her original self, being somewhat more mature and treating Shinji as less of a child (though that could be because most of the "domestic" scenes were cut, leaving only her [[Badass]] commanding officer moments.) Most importantly, she knows about Lilith, and shows her to Shinji around 18 episodes ahead of schedule—the one major plot departure in the first movie from the series. This goes a long way to help motivate Shinji fight Ramiel...
* Alternatively Mari Illustrious Makinami is the Peggy Sue, and in fact Toji's little sister, who is often called Mari in fanon.
* Alternatively Mari Illustrious Makinami is the Peggy Sue, and in fact Toji's little sister, who is often called Mari in fanon.
* It's relevant to mention the big red stain across the moon in the end, too. A direct reference to Mega-Rei's [[High-Pressure Blood]] decapitation moment at the end of ''EoE''? Perhaps!
* It's relevant to mention the big red stain across the moon in the end, too. A direct reference to Mega-Rei's [[High-Pressure Blood]] decapitation moment at the end of ''EoE''? Perhaps!
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* It could be worth noting that in the popular [[Doujinshi]] ''Re-Take'', Shinji was both a [[Peggy Sue]] and {{spoiler|the Seventeenth Angel of the [[Alternate Continuity]] he found himself in ("in the form of 'the Human Mind'" -- he possessed his [[Alternate Universe|parallel self]]). ''And'' his future daughter shows up as an incorporeal [[Peggy Sue]] herself.}} It could be that ''Rebuild'' is heading for a similar plot, especially if you add in the "sequel" theory above.
* It could be worth noting that in the popular [[Doujinshi]] ''Re-Take'', Shinji was both a [[Peggy Sue]] and {{spoiler|the Seventeenth Angel of the [[Alternate Continuity]] he found himself in ("in the form of 'the Human Mind'" -- he possessed his [[Alternate Universe|parallel self]]). ''And'' his future daughter shows up as an incorporeal [[Peggy Sue]] herself.}} It could be that ''Rebuild'' is heading for a similar plot, especially if you add in the "sequel" theory above.


== During his brief period as "God" in ''EoE'', Shinji created a large or infinite number of [[Alternate Universe|Alternate Universes]]. ==
== During his brief period as "God" in ''EoE'', Shinji created a large or infinite number of [[Alternate Universe]]s. ==
This is the central premise of a certain popular [[Doujinshi]], and accounts for Evangelion's numerous [[Elseworld|Elseworlds]] such as ''Angelic Days,'' the ''Shinji Ikari Raising Project,'' the manga, and the ''[[Super Robot Wars Alpha]]'' and ''[[Super Robot Wars MX]]'' games. These alternate continuities are almost universally [[Lighter and Softer]], or at least cast Shinji in a better light: this is a result of Shinji's desire to avoid this whole mess or make himself feel better.
This is the central premise of a certain popular [[Doujinshi]], and accounts for Evangelion's numerous [[Elseworld]]s such as ''Angelic Days,'' the ''Shinji Ikari Raising Project,'' the manga, and the ''[[Super Robot Wars Alpha]]'' and ''[[Super Robot Wars MX]]'' games. These alternate continuities are almost universally [[Lighter and Softer]], or at least cast Shinji in a better light: this is a result of Shinji's desire to avoid this whole mess or make himself feel better.
* That ''would'' also explain [[Neon Genesis Evangelion Gakuen Datenroku|Neon Genesis Evangelion: Gakuen Datenroku]]...
* That ''would'' also explain [[Neon Genesis Evangelion Gakuen Datenroku|Neon Genesis Evangelion: Gakuen Datenroku]]...
* It also accounts for several apparently mutually exclusive WMG theories involving Instrumentality, and may mean that Shinji is yet another face of Haruhi Suzumiya -- or, perhaps more likely, if you follow the first theory on the ''[[Suzumiya Haruhi]]'' page, Kyon.
* It also accounts for several apparently mutually exclusive WMG theories involving Instrumentality, and may mean that Shinji is yet another face of Haruhi Suzumiya—or, perhaps more likely, if you follow the first theory on the ''[[Suzumiya Haruhi]]'' page, Kyon.
* ''[[Yu-Gi-Oh! GX]] is one of them but the least stable'', which is why his counterparts' two female supporting characters are still named Rei and Asuka and why the [[Big Bad]] is still trying to initiate Instrumentality.
* ''[[Yu-Gi-Oh! GX]] is one of them but the least stable'', which is why his counterparts' two female supporting characters are still named Rei and Asuka and why the [[Big Bad]] is still trying to initiate Instrumentality.
* So all the Evangelion fanfic was actually created by Shinji trying to make a better universe?
* So all the Evangelion fanfic was actually created by Shinji trying to make a better universe?
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* The Red water in Rebuild was caused by [[Siren|the Forbidden Siren]].
* The Red water in Rebuild was caused by [[Siren|the Forbidden Siren]].


(What? I actually find it more plausible than "''Rebuild'' is a sequel". ''Rebuild'' is supposed to be a retelling of the story "more accessible to non-fans" -- i.e. an [[Adaptation Distillation]] -- and so far, it succeeds at being exactly that.)
(What? I actually find it more plausible than "''Rebuild'' is a sequel". ''Rebuild'' is supposed to be a retelling of the story "more accessible to non-fans"—i.e. an [[Adaptation Distillation]]—and so far, it succeeds at being exactly that.)


* Theory confirmed by Rebuild 2.0.
* Theory confirmed by Rebuild 2.0.
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The worst thing going for the "Misato's father was the donor" idea is the simple fact that it lacks any concrete support in the end. On a thematic and character level, it is actually rather appropriate, and the basic setup is all there, but, regrettably, it was never taken advantage of.
The worst thing going for the "Misato's father was the donor" idea is the simple fact that it lacks any concrete support in the end. On a thematic and character level, it is actually rather appropriate, and the basic setup is all there, but, regrettably, it was never taken advantage of.


First of all, consider: Misato is, on one level, participating in the Angels' extermination in order to avenge her father's death, but she told Shinji that is also, essentially, using them to '''take revenge on him''' and purging herself of his ghost, so to speak. Misato's tense, love/hate relationship with her father is directly paralleled with Shinji and Gendo -- and, as it goes, Shinji is also using the Angels to sublimate the rage towards his father ("Enemy! Enemy! Enemy! My enemy!!!"). And, as it goes, both of Shinji's "enemies" end up literally fusing when Gendo does that creepy thing with Adam's embryo. Considering this aspect alone, it would have made complete sense within NGE's framework for Misato's father to have done something squicky with Adam, producing the fusion of Angel and Lilin that is Kaworu. And so Misato's "vendetta/revenge" would have come to a rather logical and ironic conclusion...
First of all, consider: Misato is, on one level, participating in the Angels' extermination in order to avenge her father's death, but she told Shinji that is also, essentially, using them to '''take revenge on him''' and purging herself of his ghost, so to speak. Misato's tense, love/hate relationship with her father is directly paralleled with Shinji and Gendo—and, as it goes, Shinji is also using the Angels to sublimate the rage towards his father ("Enemy! Enemy! Enemy! My enemy!!!"). And, as it goes, both of Shinji's "enemies" end up literally fusing when Gendo does that creepy thing with Adam's embryo. Considering this aspect alone, it would have made complete sense within NGE's framework for Misato's father to have done something squicky with Adam, producing the fusion of Angel and Lilin that is Kaworu. And so Misato's "vendetta/revenge" would have come to a rather logical and ironic conclusion...


There is more going for the idea than this, but ultimately this is one of those things that you either like or don't like, since Kaworu being related to anyone in the main cast will probably amount to nothing more than wishful thinking in the end.
There is more going for the idea than this, but ultimately this is one of those things that you either like or don't like, since Kaworu being related to anyone in the main cast will probably amount to nothing more than wishful thinking in the end.
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== [[And Now for Something Completely Different]]: The entire show takes place in the [[Lotus Eater Machine]] at the end of ''[[Tengen Toppa Gurren Lagann]]''. ==
== [[And Now for Something Completely Different]]: The entire show takes place in the [[Lotus Eater Machine]] at the end of ''[[Tengen Toppa Gurren Lagann]]''. ==
... But not in the way you were expecting. It's not in the generation shown on the show, for it is noted that the AntiSpirals did this before, and there were other people trapped forever, you see -- Shinji is actually trapped in the Alternate Universes, things started out Normal, how the kid always wanted to live, not having to risk his life for others, but then, because it is apparent that true [[Lotus Eater Machine|Lotus Eater Machines]] have conflict to give just the right amount of meaning to their victims' lives, the events of ''NGE'' occur.
... But not in the way you were expecting. It's not in the generation shown on the show, for it is noted that the AntiSpirals did this before, and there were other people trapped forever, you see—Shinji is actually trapped in the Alternate Universes, things started out Normal, how the kid always wanted to live, not having to risk his life for others, but then, because it is apparent that true [[Lotus Eater Machine]]s have conflict to give just the right amount of meaning to their victims' lives, the events of ''NGE'' occur.


== Eva 01 is actually Lilith. ==
== Eva 01 is actually Lilith. ==
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== ''NGE'' takes place on the world [[Watchmen|Dr. Manhattan]] intended to create after he left earth for good. ==
== ''NGE'' takes place on the world [[Watchmen|Dr. Manhattan]] intended to create after he left earth for good. ==
It's a lot more complicated then he thought it'd be, and strangely it contains quite a few similar characters: An emotionless artificial god (or gods, if need be) who ends up becoming a world destroying/creating naked giant, a brilliant [[Magnificent Bastard]] who helps cause world peace by eliminating a large chunk of humanity, a woman pushed by and rebelling against memories of her mother, a DNA Frankenstein's monster of a pet, and scores of people who were unwittingly aiding in the end of the world.... (Note: This troper has no idea if the creator of ''NGE'' ever read ''Watchmen''; if he did that's cool; if not that's ''crazy'', because the similarities are odd. Alternatively, has Allan Moore seen ''NGE?'')
It's a lot more complicated then he thought it'd be, and strangely it contains quite a few similar characters: An emotionless artificial god (or gods, if need be) who ends up becoming a world destroying/creating naked giant, a brilliant [[Magnificent Bastard]] who helps cause world peace by eliminating a large chunk of humanity, a woman pushed by and rebelling against memories of her mother, a DNA Frankenstein's monster of a pet, and scores of people who were unwittingly aiding in the end of the world.... (Note: This troper has no idea if the creator of ''NGE'' ever read ''Watchmen''; if he did that's cool; if not that's ''crazy'', because the similarities are odd. Alternatively, has Allan Moore seen ''NGE?'')
* They are both [[Deconstruction|Deconstructions]] of things that are culturally similar; Giant robots are to Japan what superheroes are to America.
* They are both [[Deconstruction]]s of things that are culturally similar; Giant robots are to Japan what superheroes are to America.
* Also, God-Rei is not nearly as emotionless as Dr. M. She is the penultimate mother-figure (for all humankind) and sacrifices herself out of compassion for her "children".
* Also, God-Rei is not nearly as emotionless as Dr. M. She is the penultimate mother-figure (for all humankind) and sacrifices herself out of compassion for her "children".


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* Fiyero = Gendo (by default)
* Fiyero = Gendo (by default)
* Liir = Shinji ([[Eerie Pale-Skinned Brunette]] boy with a dead mom and absent father who is ''desperate'' for human connection but is abandoned by virtually everyone while wearing his mother('s cloak))
* Liir = Shinji ([[Eerie Pale-Skinned Brunette]] boy with a dead mom and absent father who is ''desperate'' for human connection but is abandoned by virtually everyone while wearing his mother('s cloak))
* Dorthy = Rei ("disguised" as Asuka - TOW describes the traditionally [[Action Girl|Action Girlish]] Dorthy as "boring" and only a love interest because "she's there")
* Dorthy = Rei ("disguised" as Asuka - TOW describes the traditionally [[Action Girl]]ish Dorthy as "boring" and only a love interest because "she's there")
* Candle = Asuka ("disguised" as Rei, perhaps getting a little [[Dude, She's Like, in a Coma|revenge]]?)
* Candle = Asuka ("disguised" as Rei, perhaps getting a little [[Dude, She's Like, in a Coma|revenge]]?)
* Trism = Kaworu (only male love interest, only one Liir has a real emotional (and physical) connection with, disappears not long after their meeting and is probably an enemy agent)
* Trism = Kaworu (only male love interest, only one Liir has a real emotional (and physical) connection with, disappears not long after their meeting and is probably an enemy agent)
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== Rei Ayanami is actually {{spoiler|a clone of Shinji's mother, Yui.}} ==
== Rei Ayanami is actually {{spoiler|a clone of Shinji's mother, Yui.}} ==
Oh, wait -- that was true.
Oh, wait—that was true.
* Not necessarily - see below.
* Not necessarily - see below.


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== The entire series is Shinji's dream. The only "real" part is the "normal world" in episode 25. ==
== The entire series is Shinji's dream. The only "real" part is the "normal world" in episode 25. ==
True -- in at least one [[Alternate Continuity]] now being published in Japan.
True—in at least one [[Alternate Continuity]] now being published in Japan.
* It was his worst nightmare ever... So horrible he couldn't go to bed for a few days without his mom and indoor lighting...
* It was his worst nightmare ever... So horrible he couldn't go to bed for a few days without his mom and indoor lighting...


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== The Angels are all female, including Kaworu. ==
== The Angels are all female, including Kaworu. ==
From a biological standpoint, female -- having an XX chromosome -- is the default sex. This is why asexual animals like worker ants and bees are considered female despite having no need for procreation. All animals are built on a female template, with males (XY) being a necessary deviation from that to facillitate reproduction (and males still have vestigal female traits, such as nipples). Thus it stands to reason that the Angels, being an asexual species, are all female as they have no need for males -- including Adam, despite having a male name. Kaworu is biologically male, his body (I say "his" because that's what's used in the text) apparently being a clone of some unnamed Japanese man in the same way Rei is a clone of Yui Ikari, but his "soul"/psychic imprint/whatever is Adam's, and Adam is female. Thus it's possible that while Kaworu has the physical traits of a male human, "he" views himself as female.
From a biological standpoint, female—having an XX chromosome—is the default sex. This is why asexual animals like worker ants and bees are considered female despite having no need for procreation. All animals are built on a female template, with males (XY) being a necessary deviation from that to facillitate reproduction (and males still have vestigal female traits, such as nipples). Thus it stands to reason that the Angels, being an asexual species, are all female as they have no need for males—including Adam, despite having a male name. Kaworu is biologically male, his body (I say "his" because that's what's used in the text) apparently being a clone of some unnamed Japanese man in the same way Rei is a clone of Yui Ikari, but his "soul"/psychic imprint/whatever is Adam's, and Adam is female. Thus it's possible that while Kaworu has the physical traits of a male human, "he" views himself as female.
* Hence why the XX series of Angel Moe figures exists, with a ''female'' Kaworu who has three or four pairs of wings and his/her usual shirt and shoes, but no pants (the shirt covers "her" midsection Ranma-style).
* Hence why the XX series of Angel Moe figures exists, with a ''female'' Kaworu who has three or four pairs of wings and his/her usual shirt and shoes, but no pants (the shirt covers "her" midsection Ranma-style).
* It is doubtful though that Kaworu views himself as male or female.
* It is doubtful though that Kaworu views himself as male or female.
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** Male birds are ZZ and female birds are ZW, to be more accurate. But the females are still heterogametic while the males are homogametic, while it's the other way around in mammals.
** Male birds are ZZ and female birds are ZW, to be more accurate. But the females are still heterogametic while the males are homogametic, while it's the other way around in mammals.
** But what are the Angels besides alternate evolutions from the humans? Thinking about that, then, they are sorta mammal, and then, they might be all female. At least Lilith was.
** But what are the Angels besides alternate evolutions from the humans? Thinking about that, then, they are sorta mammal, and then, they might be all female. At least Lilith was.
*** The Angels did not evolve ''from'' humans, they evolved in a similar manner to humans (that is, being the top of the evolutionary chain and started from Adam, they are beings comparable to humans who are the top of the evolutionary chain and started from Lilith). This phenomenon is also known in science as "Convergent evolution" (Which means, creatures from different habitats can evolve similarly to resemble each other). This means they're not necessarily mammals-- in fact, they're more likely to be a completely different taxonomical kingdom, maybe even a completely different ''domain'' (I mean, really, let's take that [[Eldritch Abomination]] that can change its appearance into a kaleidoscope of geometrical shapes and can shoot massive energy beams from its core and classify it as a reptile. Or the [[Eldritch Abomination]] which has a shadowlike antimatter body and casts a 3D shadow in the air and classify it as a mammal. Sure). Since the determination of sex varies by species and isn't even always genetic, there is no way of determining their sex. At most we can say they're homozygous from the fact that Adam most likely reproduced asexually, but there is no way to determine whether that makes them "male" or "female" (or both? None?).
*** The Angels did not evolve ''from'' humans, they evolved in a similar manner to humans (that is, being the top of the evolutionary chain and started from Adam, they are beings comparable to humans who are the top of the evolutionary chain and started from Lilith). This phenomenon is also known in science as "Convergent evolution" (Which means, creatures from different habitats can evolve similarly to resemble each other). This means they're not necessarily mammals—in fact, they're more likely to be a completely different taxonomical kingdom, maybe even a completely different ''domain'' (I mean, really, let's take that [[Eldritch Abomination]] that can change its appearance into a kaleidoscope of geometrical shapes and can shoot massive energy beams from its core and classify it as a reptile. Or the [[Eldritch Abomination]] which has a shadowlike antimatter body and casts a 3D shadow in the air and classify it as a mammal. Sure). Since the determination of sex varies by species and isn't even always genetic, there is no way of determining their sex. At most we can say they're homozygous from the fact that Adam most likely reproduced asexually, but there is no way to determine whether that makes them "male" or "female" (or both? None?).
* Actually, nipples on men aren't vestigal. Some men ARE capable of lactating, so nipples on men ''technically'' aren't vestigal, though depending on how much value one puts on one's perceived masculinity, one is more likely to deny or ignore it.
* Actually, nipples on men aren't vestigal. Some men ARE capable of lactating, so nipples on men ''technically'' aren't vestigal, though depending on how much value one puts on one's perceived masculinity, one is more likely to deny or ignore it.
** Reading this bullet point really struck me with just how far-out this discussion has gotten. Ah, Wild Mass Guessing.
** Reading this bullet point really struck me with just how far-out this discussion has gotten. Ah, Wild Mass Guessing.
* Can't even say if the Angels are homozygous. What if, for example, Adam used parthenogenesis? Or if the Spear of Longinus contains a plethora of genetic information and can double as an impregnation device? Far too many unknowns. Also, as far as classification goes, the Seeds (and the Evas by extension) obviously can't fit into any Terran slots, since they're from another planet, and quite possibly bioengineered god-versions of the FAR themselves. About all we can say is that Seeds/Evas and Angels (intrinsically) are highly convergent with hominids -- or more like the other way around, by design. Don't forget: 99.89%!
* Can't even say if the Angels are homozygous. What if, for example, Adam used parthenogenesis? Or if the Spear of Longinus contains a plethora of genetic information and can double as an impregnation device? Far too many unknowns. Also, as far as classification goes, the Seeds (and the Evas by extension) obviously can't fit into any Terran slots, since they're from another planet, and quite possibly bioengineered god-versions of the FAR themselves. About all we can say is that Seeds/Evas and Angels (intrinsically) are highly convergent with hominids—or more like the other way around, by design. Don't forget: 99.89%!


== Pen-Pen is actually a fusion of the soul of Misato's father with a random penguin, caused by the energies of Second Impact. ==
== Pen-Pen is actually a fusion of the soul of Misato's father with a random penguin, caused by the energies of Second Impact. ==
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** Angelic Days Rei wrote the original NGE? Kaworu gave her the * nudge nudge, hint hint*
** Angelic Days Rei wrote the original NGE? Kaworu gave her the * nudge nudge, hint hint*
** The show, or the whole franchise, is in purgatory? Then this is less meta and Kaworu is a celestial guard who has taken sympathy on one of the inmates, Shinji, and participates from time to time for his own motives.
** The show, or the whole franchise, is in purgatory? Then this is less meta and Kaworu is a celestial guard who has taken sympathy on one of the inmates, Shinji, and participates from time to time for his own motives.
* ...[[The Slayers/WMG|* cough* ]]...
* ...[[The Slayers/WMG|* cough*]]...
** Holy shit! I just realized they've even got the same seiyuu. Wonder what this means for [[Saiyuki|Cho Hakkai]]?
** Holy shit! I just realized they've even got the same seiyuu. Wonder what this means for [[Saiyuki|Cho Hakkai]]?
*** The seiyuu that voices Kaworu and Xellos also voices [[Mahou Sensei Negima|Fate Averruncus]]. If we combine this with some other WMGs, and take this to its possible conclusion, we end up with Fate trying to enact a [[Gambit Roulette]] that will result in Shinji (as Negi) [[Everybody Lives|saving all of his friends]], and preventing [[The End of the World as We Know It]], allowing Shinji's mind to take another step towards heath.
*** The seiyuu that voices Kaworu and Xellos also voices [[Mahou Sensei Negima|Fate Averruncus]]. If we combine this with some other WMGs, and take this to its possible conclusion, we end up with Fate trying to enact a [[Gambit Roulette]] that will result in Shinji (as Negi) [[Everybody Lives|saving all of his friends]], and preventing [[The End of the World as We Know It]], allowing Shinji's mind to take another step towards heath.
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== Gendo abandoned Shinji as a [[Take That]] to Yui choosing to be adsorbed into Eva 01 ==
== Gendo abandoned Shinji as a [[Take That]] to Yui choosing to be adsorbed into Eva 01 ==
While it is true that Gendo is so fixated on Yui that he cannot cope without her in his life, a part of Gendo resents Yui for leaving him the way she did and as a [[Take That]] in the form of ''an eye for an eye'' by abandoning Shinji.
While it is true that Gendo is so fixated on Yui that he cannot cope without her in his life, a part of Gendo resents Yui for leaving him the way she did and as a [[Take That]] in the form of ''an eye for an eye'' by abandoning Shinji.
* This is most definitely Sadamoto's take on it - in his version of the Beginning to the End, Gendou [[Hannibal Lecture|Hannibal Lectures]] Shinji about this: Yui was his light, his only reason for living. As soon as Shinji was born he got all the love/attention. If Shinji is Oedipus, then manga!Gendou is definitely Laertes.
* This is most definitely Sadamoto's take on it - in his version of the Beginning to the End, Gendou [[Hannibal Lecture]]s Shinji about this: Yui was his light, his only reason for living. As soon as Shinji was born he got all the love/attention. If Shinji is Oedipus, then manga!Gendou is definitely Laertes.


== Third Impact was an attempt by God to get rid of the Human race and replace them with his true chosen race ==
== Third Impact was an attempt by God to get rid of the Human race and replace them with his true chosen race ==
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* In the Adam and Lilith mythology, Lilith is the first feminist, refusing to bow down to Adam. She is cast out of Eden, births the daemonic Lilim (the demons could symbolize how our society sees feminism as "daemonic", in [[Abuse Is Okay When Its Female On Male|one]] or [[Horny Devils|another]] sense), and becomes the Serpent of the Tree of Knowledge.
* In the Adam and Lilith mythology, Lilith is the first feminist, refusing to bow down to Adam. She is cast out of Eden, births the daemonic Lilim (the demons could symbolize how our society sees feminism as "daemonic", in [[Abuse Is Okay When Its Female On Male|one]] or [[Horny Devils|another]] sense), and becomes the Serpent of the Tree of Knowledge.
* As some fans have already proposed, Rei-Lilith is a manifestation of the [http://wiki.evageeks.org/The_Geektionary_N-S#Shekinah divine feminine].
* As some fans have already proposed, Rei-Lilith is a manifestation of the [http://wiki.evageeks.org/The_Geektionary_N-S#Shekinah divine feminine].
* The Ikaris can also represent patriarchal rule. Gendo is the archetypal Patriarch. Yui and Shinji are the underlying weaknesses of this Patriarch's seemingly absolute totalitarian rule, with Yui being the dependence onto the opposite sex to maintain the basis for the Patriarch's power and Shinji as the agitating instability and [[Oedipus Complex|Oedipal rage]] that is waiting to collapse the entire power structure anytime (Gendo has Yui as his messiah and only reason to live which is why he does all this screwing-with-the-order-of-creation in the first place, and in ''End of Evangelion'' he even admits that he's afraid of his own son, making his true self behind his magnificent facade something very ''pathetic''). Not to mention that in many real life ancient empires that seem to be strictly Patriarchal from the outside, women usually assumed the role of [[The Man Behind the Man]]. <br /><br />Rei is the idealized woman, the Galatea that patriarchal regimes constructed: [[Extreme Doormat|silent, obedient, willing to do whatever the Patriarch says even at her own expense, and]] [[Moe Moe|exotically cute]] (see also: the [[wikipedia:Stereotypes of East Asians in the Western world#.22China doll.22 stereotype|"China doll"]] stereotype). Hideaki Anno tried to portray Rei as a unnatural mass-production clone straight out of the [[Uncanny Valley]] to parody objectification, but it fails in this area, since she ends up as the object of industrial-scale mass [[Perverse Sexual Lust]] of the otakus everywhere. And even then, what we see as this perfect Galatea is actually ''imperfect'', Rei herself gets [[Character Development]] where she grows from an [[Extreme Doormat]] into something capable of one's own volition, which (as EOE has shown) frightens Patriarch!Gendo indeed.....
* The Ikaris can also represent patriarchal rule. Gendo is the archetypal Patriarch. Yui and Shinji are the underlying weaknesses of this Patriarch's seemingly absolute totalitarian rule, with Yui being the dependence onto the opposite sex to maintain the basis for the Patriarch's power and Shinji as the agitating instability and [[Oedipus Complex|Oedipal rage]] that is waiting to collapse the entire power structure anytime (Gendo has Yui as his messiah and only reason to live which is why he does all this screwing-with-the-order-of-creation in the first place, and in ''End of Evangelion'' he even admits that he's afraid of his own son, making his true self behind his magnificent facade something very ''pathetic''). Not to mention that in many real life ancient empires that seem to be strictly Patriarchal from the outside, women usually assumed the role of [[The Man Behind the Man]].

Rei is the idealized woman, the Galatea that patriarchal regimes constructed: [[Extreme Doormat|silent, obedient, willing to do whatever the Patriarch says even at her own expense, and]] [[Moe Moe|exotically cute]] (see also: the [[wikipedia:Stereotypes of East Asians in the Western world#.22China doll.22 stereotype|"China doll"]] stereotype). Hideaki Anno tried to portray Rei as a unnatural mass-production clone straight out of the [[Uncanny Valley]] to parody objectification, but it fails in this area, since she ends up as the object of industrial-scale mass [[Perverse Sexual Lust]] of the otakus everywhere. And even then, what we see as this perfect Galatea is actually ''imperfect'', Rei herself gets [[Character Development]] where she grows from an [[Extreme Doormat]] into something capable of one's own volition, which (as EOE has shown) frightens Patriarch!Gendo indeed.....
** Perhaps the mass-production perversity is Anno's point all along: instead of facing reality with all its pain and sexual anxiety like how Shinji rejects the false reality of Instrumentality and chooses to be with Asuka despite fully knowing how much of a [[Jerkass]] she is, the otakus and male chauvinists choose to replace the real female with something artificial instead. They are who will get tanged first when the real-life Instrumentality comes.
** Perhaps the mass-production perversity is Anno's point all along: instead of facing reality with all its pain and sexual anxiety like how Shinji rejects the false reality of Instrumentality and chooses to be with Asuka despite fully knowing how much of a [[Jerkass]] she is, the otakus and male chauvinists choose to replace the real female with something artificial instead. They are who will get tanged first when the real-life Instrumentality comes.
* This is barely even a guess. The series is positively awash with feminist themes, and [[Hideaki Anno]] is a friend of another feminist filmmaker, [[Hayao Miyazaki]]. NGE is also one of the most influential works in the ''Superflat'' genre, which openly mocks otaku sexism (along with other aspects of Japanese modern culture), particularly about the popularity of the ''[[Moe]]'' genre (which is associated with objectification) among otakus and misogynists alike. <br /><br />During the time NGE was made, Japan in particular is still obsessed with the ''[[Yamato Nadeshiko]]'' ideal, which produces conflicts with women's liberation. NGE shows this to a degree with the Rei and Asuka contrast (with Asuka being the extreme foreign element). Nowadays, one of the consequences of growing gender equality in Japan is, instead of mutual respect it happened to be growing misunderstanding. Young women are revolting against the traditional role of obedient housewife. Just like how Rei gets [[Character Development]] from an [[Extreme Doormat]] into someone capable of free will. Startled men are retreating into solitary ways. Just like how Gendo fell from a relatively normal and sociable person into someone very callous and antisocial. Of course, this conflict contributes to growing [[Hikikomori|hikikomorism]] and the decline of marriages/birth rate/population, making gender issues even more relevant to Japanese society-at-large. <br /><br />Also, one of the most major interpretations of [[A Date with Rosie Palms|that]] [[Dude, She's Like, in a Coma|scene]] in End of Evangelion is being Anno's way of [[Flipping the Bird]] to both the antisocials and the merchandising that serves them. Someone needs to write an essay on this, like, now.
* This is barely even a guess. The series is positively awash with feminist themes, and [[Hideaki Anno]] is a friend of another feminist filmmaker, [[Hayao Miyazaki]]. NGE is also one of the most influential works in the ''Superflat'' genre, which openly mocks otaku sexism (along with other aspects of Japanese modern culture), particularly about the popularity of the ''[[Moe]]'' genre (which is associated with objectification) among otakus and misogynists alike.

During the time NGE was made, Japan in particular is still obsessed with the ''[[Yamato Nadeshiko]]'' ideal, which produces conflicts with women's liberation. NGE shows this to a degree with the Rei and Asuka contrast (with Asuka being the extreme foreign element). Nowadays, one of the consequences of growing gender equality in Japan is, instead of mutual respect it happened to be growing misunderstanding. Young women are revolting against the traditional role of obedient housewife. Just like how Rei gets [[Character Development]] from an [[Extreme Doormat]] into someone capable of free will. Startled men are retreating into solitary ways. Just like how Gendo fell from a relatively normal and sociable person into someone very callous and antisocial. Of course, this conflict contributes to growing [[hikikomori]]sm and the decline of marriages/birth rate/population, making gender issues even more relevant to Japanese society-at-large.

Also, one of the most major interpretations of [[A Date with Rosie Palms|that]] [[Dude, She's Like, in a Coma|scene]] in End of Evangelion is being Anno's way of [[Flipping the Bird]] to both the antisocials and the merchandising that serves them. Someone needs to write an essay on this, like, now.


== Evangelion is about learning to drive ==
== Evangelion is about learning to drive ==
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* He struggles to keep any semblance of control
* He struggles to keep any semblance of control
* And it all ends in tears.
* And it all ends in tears.
* This theory also provides the simplest explanation of Shinji's mindscrew sequence inside the Sea of Dirac -- he's given up and taken the train instead.
* This theory also provides the simplest explanation of Shinji's mindscrew sequence inside the Sea of Dirac—he's given up and taken the train instead.
* [[wikipedia:How I Learned to Drive|How Shinji learned to drive, huh?]]
* [[wikipedia:How I Learned to Drive|How Shinji learned to drive, huh?]]
* So Berserk Mode is symbolic of Shinji accidentally hitting the accelerator instead of the brakes, and bumping the gearshift into reverse when he tried to go for the hand brake? And then being forced into it ''again'' to run an out-of-control car off the road? Shinji's driving lessons are ''[[What Do You Mean It's Not Awesome?|awesome]]''.
* So Berserk Mode is symbolic of Shinji accidentally hitting the accelerator instead of the brakes, and bumping the gearshift into reverse when he tried to go for the hand brake? And then being forced into it ''again'' to run an out-of-control car off the road? Shinji's driving lessons are ''[[What Do You Mean It's Not Awesome?|awesome]]''.
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* Kaji is Misato's husband. He is convinced he is a double agent working for the CIA and Japanese Intelligence. He treats Shinji like a favorite cousin, filling in a paternal role.
* Kaji is Misato's husband. He is convinced he is a double agent working for the CIA and Japanese Intelligence. He treats Shinji like a favorite cousin, filling in a paternal role.
* Asuka and Rei are fellow patients whom Shinji befriends. Asuka is also a withdrawn, hikikimori-type girl who easily gets caught up in Shinji's world. Rei is made emotionally distant by the mood stabilisers she takes as she receives counselling for domestic abuse. Both hang out with Shinji for a while but leave his life after when they are released. Shinji's most vivid and violent imaginings see Rei and then Asuka 'killed off' as they leaves him to his fantasies, though he later fixates himself on the memory of Rei in his final days in treatment.
* Asuka and Rei are fellow patients whom Shinji befriends. Asuka is also a withdrawn, hikikimori-type girl who easily gets caught up in Shinji's world. Rei is made emotionally distant by the mood stabilisers she takes as she receives counselling for domestic abuse. Both hang out with Shinji for a while but leave his life after when they are released. Shinji's most vivid and violent imaginings see Rei and then Asuka 'killed off' as they leaves him to his fantasies, though he later fixates himself on the memory of Rei in his final days in treatment.
* Kaworu, a [[Sociopath|sociopathic]] genius (who resembles [[A Clockwork Orange (film)|Alex]] in that he loves classical music, especially Beethoven's Symphony No. 9, while committing acts of ultraviolence), was institutionalised when he killed a kitten in a crowded street. He 'befriends' the vulnerable Shinji for his own amusement, taking Misato hostage with Shinji at his side. Emotionally torn, Shinji attacks Kaworu who goads Shinji into killing him.
* Kaworu, a [[sociopath]]ic genius (who resembles [[A Clockwork Orange (film)|Alex]] in that he loves classical music, especially Beethoven's Symphony No. 9, while committing acts of ultraviolence), was institutionalised when he killed a kitten in a crowded street. He 'befriends' the vulnerable Shinji for his own amusement, taking Misato hostage with Shinji at his side. Emotionally torn, Shinji attacks Kaworu who goads Shinji into killing him.
** Just another thought to throw in there: Do you think Shinji really decapitated him or was that just a delusion?
** Just another thought to throw in there: Do you think Shinji really decapitated him or was that just a delusion?
* Touji, Kensuki and Hikari were Shinji's friends before he was committed. At first they visited him as a sign of solidarity, but like his father they visit less and less often over time and eventually leave him as he becomes more detached with reality.
* Touji, Kensuki and Hikari were Shinji's friends before he was committed. At first they visited him as a sign of solidarity, but like his father they visit less and less often over time and eventually leave him as he becomes more detached with reality.
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All of them are considered ''[[wikipedia:Ayanami class destroyer|Ayanami]]''-class destroyers.
All of them are considered ''[[wikipedia:Ayanami class destroyer|Ayanami]]''-class destroyers.


Now, assuming this is intentional and not just me reading WAY too deeply into Anno or whoever's ship-otaku-ness, this could be a hint that Rebuild Asuka and Mari are based on the same "template" as Rei--in other words that they are ALSO clones of Yui. Rei was presumably considered a failure due to lack of aggressiveness. So they modified the genetic template to compensate, and came up with Asuka. Except they overcompensated, and ended up with an egotistical borderline psychopath. Mari is the third attempt, and most successful so far--fairly normal when she needs to be, but goes just as batshit (if not more so) as Asuka in combat.
Now, assuming this is intentional and not just me reading WAY too deeply into Anno or whoever's ship-otaku-ness, this could be a hint that Rebuild Asuka and Mari are based on the same "template" as Rei—in other words that they are ALSO clones of Yui. Rei was presumably considered a failure due to lack of aggressiveness. So they modified the genetic template to compensate, and came up with Asuka. Except they overcompensated, and ended up with an egotistical borderline psychopath. Mari is the third attempt, and most successful so far—fairly normal when she needs to be, but goes just as batshit (if not more so) as Asuka in combat.


Now, since every EVA pilot (except Shinji) is a modified clone of Yui Ikari and therefore, in a sense, her "daughter", NERV does not have to match each EVA to a single pilot. They can simply use a copy or piece of Yui's soul in every single EVA, making them much easier to mass produce.
Now, since every EVA pilot (except Shinji) is a modified clone of Yui Ikari and therefore, in a sense, her "daughter", NERV does not have to match each EVA to a single pilot. They can simply use a copy or piece of Yui's soul in every single EVA, making them much easier to mass produce.
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* But why would the engineers let the EVAS have penises or vaginas, after all?
* But why would the engineers let the EVAS have penises or vaginas, after all?
** [[Rule 34|As if you need to ask.]]
** [[Rule 34|As if you need to ask.]]
"Seeds and Evas have no physical gender" is more like viewers' default assumption, with "they are physically female" being a rather idiosyncratic and statistically unpopular, however notorious, viewpoint. That said, there is no official word on the matter, so interpretation doesn't have to be rigidly enforced in either direction (female or sexless -- although given the intense "mother" themes and female symbology, male is probably out). Perhaps this goes without saying, though.
"Seeds and Evas have no physical gender" is more like viewers' default assumption, with "they are physically female" being a rather idiosyncratic and statistically unpopular, however notorious, viewpoint. That said, there is no official word on the matter, so interpretation doesn't have to be rigidly enforced in either direction (female or sexless—although given the intense "mother" themes and female symbology, male is probably out). Perhaps this goes without saying, though.


Other items to note: Adam's method for producing the Angels is in fact completely unknown; the aforementioned "birthing" theory for Eva-01's creation actually does take the image from episode #23' into account; the biological status of being female is not actually as straightforward as this entry implies (e.g., if a species abandons its males and takes up parthenogenesis, its members do not suddenly stop being females); LCL coming from between Lilith's legs has rather straightforward implications that do not disappear because vulvae appear on heads and so forth elsewhere; Lilith's little legs probably have more to do with Rei than anything else; and the Spears could possibly be invoked to satisfy a "male role" if necessary (which they already do on a symbolic level),
Other items to note: Adam's method for producing the Angels is in fact completely unknown; the aforementioned "birthing" theory for Eva-01's creation actually does take the image from episode #23' into account; the biological status of being female is not actually as straightforward as this entry implies (e.g., if a species abandons its males and takes up parthenogenesis, its members do not suddenly stop being females); LCL coming from between Lilith's legs has rather straightforward implications that do not disappear because vulvae appear on heads and so forth elsewhere; Lilith's little legs probably have more to do with Rei than anything else; and the Spears could possibly be invoked to satisfy a "male role" if necessary (which they already do on a symbolic level),
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== The AT Field cannot account for all of the phenomena surrounding Evas and Angels ==
== The AT Field cannot account for all of the phenomena surrounding Evas and Angels ==
Somewhere along the line, Eva fandom got this [[Fanon|weird idea]] that the AT Field could do anything it ever wanted forever and ever and ever, amen. With such gems as: "AT Fields can make things fly, it can make things explode, it can conduct electricity", and the strangest so far: "AT Fields can work like glue". I blame Kaworu and his cryptic lines about souls and lights and whatever. It's fully possible that the AT Field's sole purpose is being just that, a forcefield of some manner, and that many of the unique abilities of the Angels and Evas are caused by other properties.
Somewhere along the line, Eva fandom got this [[Fanon|weird idea]] that the AT Field could do anything it ever wanted forever and ever and ever, amen. With such gems as: "AT Fields can make things fly, it can make things explode, it can conduct electricity", and the strangest so far: "AT Fields can work like glue". I blame Kaworu and his cryptic lines about souls and lights and whatever. It's fully possible that the AT Field's sole purpose is being just that, a forcefield of some manner, and that many of the unique abilities of the Angels and Evas are caused by other properties.
* Of course the A.T. Field doesn't account for [[EVER Ything]], but it does account for a lot. The A.T. Field fundamentally isn't even a forcefield -- it's a projection of a being's soul, and the emanating, polygonal forcefield, while being the thing usually referred to as "A.T. Field", is but one manifestation the ATF can take. For unresolved reasons, the ATF is much more powerful in Angels, Evas, etc., than in "normal" lifeforms, to the point that it can essentially manipulate physical reality. That A.T. Fields have multiple uses is firmly established within both the show itself and supplemental materials and certainly is no invention of a deluded fandom.
* Of course the A.T. Field doesn't account for [[EVER Ything]], but it does account for a lot. The A.T. Field fundamentally isn't even a forcefield—it's a projection of a being's soul, and the emanating, polygonal forcefield, while being the thing usually referred to as "A.T. Field", is but one manifestation the ATF can take. For unresolved reasons, the ATF is much more powerful in Angels, Evas, etc., than in "normal" lifeforms, to the point that it can essentially manipulate physical reality. That A.T. Fields have multiple uses is firmly established within both the show itself and supplemental materials and certainly is no invention of a deluded fandom.


== Rebuild of Evangelion is a Reconstruction ==
== Rebuild of Evangelion is a Reconstruction ==
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== Angels are not actually "alternate evolutions" of humans themselves, but their representatives ==
== Angels are not actually "alternate evolutions" of humans themselves, but their representatives ==
It makes no sense for creatures so large like the angels to become the dominant species -- the earth doesn't have enough resources to support creatures that large and they don't look like anything seen on Earth. However, they are a similar size to the Evas, and many are similarly styled and shaped.
It makes no sense for creatures so large like the angels to become the dominant species—the earth doesn't have enough resources to support creatures that large and they don't look like anything seen on Earth. However, they are a similar size to the Evas, and many are similarly styled and shaped.


While the Evas were made in man's image and therefore look like stylized versions of humans, the Angels were built from their respective species' images, and therefore represent stylized traits of their respective species. This would also explain why the Angels seem to end up by Tokyo-3 -- that's a space where these representatives can come from their respective dimensions to fight. It's not so unbelievable that some of these Angels would have pilots, too, and that NERV and SEELE were concealing their existences from the pilots because knowing that they were fighting and killing intelligent beings would discourage them from fighting.
While the Evas were made in man's image and therefore look like stylized versions of humans, the Angels were built from their respective species' images, and therefore represent stylized traits of their respective species. This would also explain why the Angels seem to end up by Tokyo-3 -- that's a space where these representatives can come from their respective dimensions to fight. It's not so unbelievable that some of these Angels would have pilots, too, and that NERV and SEELE were concealing their existences from the pilots because knowing that they were fighting and killing intelligent beings would discourage them from fighting.
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** Exactly. Angels have more versatile AT Fields but less scientific progresses because they sacrificed their individuality in search for power; while Humans, which found power in determinism (science) instead of the AT Field, ignored their AT Fields and left those to freeze into individuality and uniqueness.
** Exactly. Angels have more versatile AT Fields but less scientific progresses because they sacrificed their individuality in search for power; while Humans, which found power in determinism (science) instead of the AT Field, ignored their AT Fields and left those to freeze into individuality and uniqueness.
** Or maybe Lilith's hand is responsible. Remember, humans are unique because they have the Fruit of Knowledge instead of the Fruit of Life. Lilith may have "disabled" our ability to consciously project AT fields so that we are forced to use our uniqueness.
** Or maybe Lilith's hand is responsible. Remember, humans are unique because they have the Fruit of Knowledge instead of the Fruit of Life. Lilith may have "disabled" our ability to consciously project AT fields so that we are forced to use our uniqueness.
* This idea is [[Older Than Radio]], and Schopenhauer called it the "Hedgehog's Dilemma". Schopenhauer's parable describes a number of hedgehogs who need to huddle together for warmth and who struggle to find the optimal distance where they may feel sufficiently warm without hurting one another. The hedgehogs have to sacrifice warmth for comfort. Remember, the hedgehog's quills evolved as a form of protection against predators. Why do we have this AT Field? It protects us, particularly from [[Cosmic Horror|Cosmic Horrors]] (aka Angels), and also serves as a filter to block unnecessary chaos, however, as a consequence, as a barrier, it has to separate humanity.
* This idea is [[Older Than Radio]], and Schopenhauer called it the "Hedgehog's Dilemma". Schopenhauer's parable describes a number of hedgehogs who need to huddle together for warmth and who struggle to find the optimal distance where they may feel sufficiently warm without hurting one another. The hedgehogs have to sacrifice warmth for comfort. Remember, the hedgehog's quills evolved as a form of protection against predators. Why do we have this AT Field? It protects us, particularly from [[Cosmic Horror]]s (aka Angels), and also serves as a filter to block unnecessary chaos, however, as a consequence, as a barrier, it has to separate humanity.


== Rebuild-Kaworu is [[A God Am I|Ascended]] [[RahXephon|Ayato Kamina]], here to undo Second Impact ==
== Rebuild-Kaworu is [[A God Am I|Ascended]] [[RahXephon|Ayato Kamina]], here to undo Second Impact ==
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***** Some of Anonymous' quotes are "We are everyone and we are no one" and "United as one, divided by zero". The Instrumentality is specifically described by Rei in ''End of Evangelion'' as "a place where you exist everywhere, yet you are nowhere, all at once" and "a world where we are all one". Coincidence?
***** Some of Anonymous' quotes are "We are everyone and we are no one" and "United as one, divided by zero". The Instrumentality is specifically described by Rei in ''End of Evangelion'' as "a place where you exist everywhere, yet you are nowhere, all at once" and "a world where we are all one". Coincidence?
****** It was also likely that one of Anon's members was an Evangelion fanboy, and also some of Anon's members have influence in the workings of the government......
****** It was also likely that one of Anon's members was an Evangelion fanboy, and also some of Anon's members have influence in the workings of the government......
* Remember the part where Rei takes the form of people's desires? There is a clue that Instrumentality was intended to make all humans [[Voluntary Shapeshifter|Voluntary Shapeshifters]].
* Remember the part where Rei takes the form of people's desires? There is a clue that Instrumentality was intended to make all humans [[Voluntary Shapeshifter]]s.
** Then our true form is Tang that can change into Reis?
** Then our true form is Tang that can change into Reis?
*** That means Shinji becomes the ancestor to a race of shapeshifters. When he rejected instrumentality and chose to live in reality, he became a shapeshifter, which will eventually become the First Ancestral Race. It is also plausible that Adam and Lilith were also shapeshifters, considering the Precursors / Shinji were shapeshifters, but was trapped in form due to the Lance of Longinus, which may have originated from Eva-01 (In the series Lilith was trapped in injured form when pierced by the Lance, but after the Lance was removed, Lilith came back to her true form, a formless humanoid mass, then later changed into a {{spoiler|Giant Naked Rei, then the Teh Rei meme}}, and considering the Lance's spiral resemblance to DNA, it can apply as the same to us, but with DNA molecules).
*** That means Shinji becomes the ancestor to a race of shapeshifters. When he rejected instrumentality and chose to live in reality, he became a shapeshifter, which will eventually become the First Ancestral Race. It is also plausible that Adam and Lilith were also shapeshifters, considering the Precursors / Shinji were shapeshifters, but was trapped in form due to the Lance of Longinus, which may have originated from Eva-01 (In the series Lilith was trapped in injured form when pierced by the Lance, but after the Lance was removed, Lilith came back to her true form, a formless humanoid mass, then later changed into a {{spoiler|Giant Naked Rei, then the Teh Rei meme}}, and considering the Lance's spiral resemblance to DNA, it can apply as the same to us, but with DNA molecules).
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* [[Azumanga Daioh|If they get removed, she shuts down. And if they'd continued development, the A11 Nerve Clips would have let her fly.]]
* [[Azumanga Daioh|If they get removed, she shuts down. And if they'd continued development, the A11 Nerve Clips would have let her fly.]]


== EVAs are a [[Deconstruction]] of [[Magical Girl|Magical Girls]]. ==
== EVAs are a [[Deconstruction]] of [[Magical Girl]]s. ==
They're [[Noodle People|slender females]] with an angelic/fetishistic nature that fight [[Eldritch Abomination|Freudian Horrors]] through dancing and (for the more powerful attacks) emotion (''especially'' [[The Power of Love|intimacy-related emotions]]). Since this is a [[Grimdark]] series after all, the [[Fridge Horror]] behind being a [[Magical Girl]] is revealed, struggling against Eldritch Horrors with incomprehensible sorcery is not healthy for your own sanity and the welfare of your loved ones, you're going to end up mostly alone, and no matter what you do you are inevitably cursed in the end (and of course, how the [[Applied Phlebotinum]] uses the user's energy, ego barrier and emotions, most especially [[Love Hurts|love, portrayed here as a tremendous source of Angst]], makes magical girl magic a case of [[Powered by a Forsaken Child]]). EVA-01 can be a [[Tsundere]], which tends to deconstruct or parody into [[Yandere]]. At the end of the series, the protagonist [[End of the World Special|gains divine reality-warping power]] but instead chooses to be normal and gives hope for the rest of humanity. I had more, but I'll need to figure out if any of it was written down or saved somewhere, or if the [[Data Vampires]] ate it while I was trapped offline.<br />And in case you [[Poe's Law|think this is a joke WMG]], [[Sincerity Mode|it's not]].
They're [[Noodle People|slender females]] with an angelic/fetishistic nature that fight [[Eldritch Abomination|Freudian Horrors]] through dancing and (for the more powerful attacks) emotion (''especially'' [[The Power of Love|intimacy-related emotions]]). Since this is a [[Grimdark]] series after all, the [[Fridge Horror]] behind being a [[Magical Girl]] is revealed, struggling against Eldritch Horrors with incomprehensible sorcery is not healthy for your own sanity and the welfare of your loved ones, you're going to end up mostly alone, and no matter what you do you are inevitably cursed in the end (and of course, how the [[Applied Phlebotinum]] uses the user's energy, ego barrier and emotions, most especially [[Love Hurts|love, portrayed here as a tremendous source of Angst]], makes magical girl magic a case of [[Powered by a Forsaken Child]]). EVA-01 can be a [[Tsundere]], which tends to deconstruct or parody into [[Yandere]]. At the end of the series, the protagonist [[End of the World Special|gains divine reality-warping power]] but instead chooses to be normal and gives hope for the rest of humanity. I had more, but I'll need to figure out if any of it was written down or saved somewhere, or if the [[Data Vampires]] ate it while I was trapped offline.<br />And in case you [[Poe's Law|think this is a joke WMG]], [[Sincerity Mode|it's not]].
* [[Puella Magi Madoka Magica]]?
* [[Puella Magi Madoka Magica]]?
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== SEELE is Satan, Gendo is the Antichrist, Yui is Jesus, the series is an allegory, and the rest follows. Also, the message of the series is that you can't cheat your way to Utopia. ==
== SEELE is Satan, Gendo is the Antichrist, Yui is Jesus, the series is an allegory, and the rest follows. Also, the message of the series is that you can't cheat your way to Utopia. ==
The idea is that Satan is always vying for the throne of God, and as such, [[A God Am I|attempts to make himself a god]]. Humanity are pawns in this cosmic game, and the Angels are the attempt at stopping SEELE (Satan's) attack. SEELE attempts to obtain unholy power through screwing with the order of creation, triggering the Apocalypse (Second Impact) and Tribulation (the following years.) This brings the wrath of god in the form of the Angels to earth--they didn't bother us until we forced second impact. Not in line with biblical chronology, after this Jesus (Yui) is [[And I Must Scream|crucified to the Evangelion]] for the sins of man, collectively represented by Shinji Ikari, who's being continually tempted to succumb to [[Despair Event Horizon]] and join SEELE in destroying the world. She returns on Judgment Day (As incarnated in ''EoE''), helps with how Shinji questions whether it is really worth it to kill off human life just to be a god, gives him hope in humanity thus allowing him to reject Instrumentality, and in the end spends the rest of eternity in space as an individual symbol to humanity's existence. Granted, this is more of a heavy borrowing of concepts from christianity than an allegorical fulfillment of them; the series is not allegorical event-wise, but in a general, thematic sense: Those who attempt to become God both destroy the world and [[Lonely At the Top|lose anyway]]. None of the correlations I've mentioned likely hold, but the theme seems reasonable. It's the old tale of [[Hubris]], with religious overlays.
The idea is that Satan is always vying for the throne of God, and as such, [[A God Am I|attempts to make himself a god]]. Humanity are pawns in this cosmic game, and the Angels are the attempt at stopping SEELE (Satan's) attack. SEELE attempts to obtain unholy power through screwing with the order of creation, triggering the Apocalypse (Second Impact) and Tribulation (the following years.) This brings the wrath of god in the form of the Angels to earth—they didn't bother us until we forced second impact. Not in line with biblical chronology, after this Jesus (Yui) is [[And I Must Scream|crucified to the Evangelion]] for the sins of man, collectively represented by Shinji Ikari, who's being continually tempted to succumb to [[Despair Event Horizon]] and join SEELE in destroying the world. She returns on Judgment Day (As incarnated in ''EoE''), helps with how Shinji questions whether it is really worth it to kill off human life just to be a god, gives him hope in humanity thus allowing him to reject Instrumentality, and in the end spends the rest of eternity in space as an individual symbol to humanity's existence. Granted, this is more of a heavy borrowing of concepts from christianity than an allegorical fulfillment of them; the series is not allegorical event-wise, but in a general, thematic sense: Those who attempt to become God both destroy the world and [[Lonely At the Top|lose anyway]]. None of the correlations I've mentioned likely hold, but the theme seems reasonable. It's the old tale of [[Hubris]], with religious overlays.


Also, the theme seems to be more or less a dystopian staple: true Utopia is earned organically, not imposed synthetically. Though Shinji's fantasy-world is great, it cannot be had in reality, and thus he rejects it. Like many Utopias' failures, the cause of failure is the imperfection of humans and how they cannot tolerate boredom; before evolution such as Instrumentality would bring can take place, we must actually change by ourselves to the point where it is natural to reach that state. Shinji's realization that human's can't truly co-exist in harmony for real--and thus, a free, intelligent and interesting life must include the painful chaos of individuality--is the reason that Lilith/Rei dies and Instrumentality goes kablooie. For other examples of collectivistic transhumanist utopias which get deconstructed because human nature isn't ready for it, see "The Matrix", "Brave New World", and "The Giver." If we were able to live in peace, [[Bread and Circuses]] forever, there would be no more plot, our souls suffer death-by-boredom (which we may not notice superficially) and it would not be much different from an [[And I Must Scream]] state (hence why in dystopian literature fandom, the fates of the people living in "Brave New World" are compared with of all things those that live in the absolute [[Despair Event Horizon]] of all Dystopias, "[[Nineteen Eighty-Four]]"). The idea that we can't cheat our way to peace is actually one that would be very important to remember in real life.
Also, the theme seems to be more or less a dystopian staple: true Utopia is earned organically, not imposed synthetically. Though Shinji's fantasy-world is great, it cannot be had in reality, and thus he rejects it. Like many Utopias' failures, the cause of failure is the imperfection of humans and how they cannot tolerate boredom; before evolution such as Instrumentality would bring can take place, we must actually change by ourselves to the point where it is natural to reach that state. Shinji's realization that human's can't truly co-exist in harmony for real—and thus, a free, intelligent and interesting life must include the painful chaos of individuality—is the reason that Lilith/Rei dies and Instrumentality goes kablooie. For other examples of collectivistic transhumanist utopias which get deconstructed because human nature isn't ready for it, see "The Matrix", "Brave New World", and "The Giver." If we were able to live in peace, [[Bread and Circuses]] forever, there would be no more plot, our souls suffer death-by-boredom (which we may not notice superficially) and it would not be much different from an [[And I Must Scream]] state (hence why in dystopian literature fandom, the fates of the people living in "Brave New World" are compared with of all things those that live in the absolute [[Despair Event Horizon]] of all Dystopias, "[[Nineteen Eighty-Four]]"). The idea that we can't cheat our way to peace is actually one that would be very important to remember in real life.


== Neon Genesis Evangelion is a testament to Gestalt psychology ==
== Neon Genesis Evangelion is a testament to Gestalt psychology ==
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== The entire Neon Genesis Evangelion storyline is a "Princess and Dragon" fairytale story ==
== The entire Neon Genesis Evangelion storyline is a "Princess and Dragon" fairytale story ==
We all know the princess and dragon stories, where the [[Damsel in Distress]] was kidnapped by the [[Big Bad]] using [[The Dragon]], and the [[Knight in Shining Armor]] try to rescue the beautiful princess from [[The Empire]]. This is also known as a manifestation of [[The Dulcinea Effect]]. Let's see, how do we deconstruct the whole premise? When you look at the whole setting, it seems that the Angels are trying to rescue Lilith from the civilization that is Humanity, but their instincts made them lose to Humanity's super science. Add fairy tale tropes, and you get the whole premise! The Angels are actually [[Knight in Shining Armor|Knights In Shining Armor]] who are trying to rescue the hapless, imprisoned princess Lilith from [[The Empire]] that is Humanity, but their Don Quixote attitudes made them lose to Humanity's superior wizardry. Evangelions are obviously, [[The Dragon]]. The Instrumentality? It's maybe because Lilith is actually someone who resembles [[Magic Knight Rayearth|The Pillar Of Cephiro]]. The reason why angels look like ''them [[Eldritch Abomination|Eldritch Abominations]]'' is either because the angels possess magic of their own, which makes this somewhat an [[Elves vs. Dwarves]] conflict (as evidenced by the S2 Engine), or because Humanity was so angsty and grimdark, they reject all forms of idealistic premises and caricature them as ugly. Or because it's a [[Take That]] and Deconstruction.
We all know the princess and dragon stories, where the [[Damsel in Distress]] was kidnapped by the [[Big Bad]] using [[The Dragon]], and the [[Knight in Shining Armor]] try to rescue the beautiful princess from [[The Empire]]. This is also known as a manifestation of [[The Dulcinea Effect]]. Let's see, how do we deconstruct the whole premise? When you look at the whole setting, it seems that the Angels are trying to rescue Lilith from the civilization that is Humanity, but their instincts made them lose to Humanity's super science. Add fairy tale tropes, and you get the whole premise! The Angels are actually [[Knight in Shining Armor|Knights In Shining Armor]] who are trying to rescue the hapless, imprisoned princess Lilith from [[The Empire]] that is Humanity, but their Don Quixote attitudes made them lose to Humanity's superior wizardry. Evangelions are obviously, [[The Dragon]]. The Instrumentality? It's maybe because Lilith is actually someone who resembles [[Magic Knight Rayearth|The Pillar Of Cephiro]]. The reason why angels look like ''them [[Eldritch Abomination]]s'' is either because the angels possess magic of their own, which makes this somewhat an [[Elves vs. Dwarves]] conflict (as evidenced by the S2 Engine), or because Humanity was so angsty and grimdark, they reject all forms of idealistic premises and caricature them as ugly. Or because it's a [[Take That]] and Deconstruction.


== The main thing that Hideaki Anno was trying to tell us in End of Evangelion is..... ==
== The main thing that Hideaki Anno was trying to tell us in End of Evangelion is..... ==
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== [[Lucky Star|Konata and Miyuki]] are Angels, Kagami is Asuka, and Tsukasa is Rei. ==
== [[Lucky Star|Konata and Miyuki]] are Angels, Kagami is Asuka, and Tsukasa is Rei. ==
And [[Butt Monkey|Minoru]] is Shinji. Hey, there are more than enough WMG's linking ''[[Haruhi Suzumiya]]'' and ''Evangelion'', especially via Instrumentality. Why not go one step further? Tsundere Kagami makes a good Asuka, Tsukasa has the short hair ([[You Gotta Have Blue Hair|almost the same color]]) and slightly pushover personality. The fact that Kagami and Tsukasa are twins and Asuka hates Rei makes things deliciously [[Ironic Hell|ironic]] (although [[Annoying Younger Sibling|Tsukasa]] occasionally provokes the same reaction in Kagami). Miyuki is frequently judged by Konata to be the penultimate in [[Moe]]...a perfect definition of an Angel if there ever was one. And [[Otaku]] Konata seems to be adored by most of her peers, as opposed to most stereotypes of otakus. She's also athletic and a [[Genius Ditz]] when need be--hence a higher being in the eyes of most otakus.
And [[Butt Monkey|Minoru]] is Shinji. Hey, there are more than enough WMG's linking ''[[Haruhi Suzumiya]]'' and ''Evangelion'', especially via Instrumentality. Why not go one step further? Tsundere Kagami makes a good Asuka, Tsukasa has the short hair ([[You Gotta Have Blue Hair|almost the same color]]) and slightly pushover personality. The fact that Kagami and Tsukasa are twins and Asuka hates Rei makes things deliciously [[Ironic Hell|ironic]] (although [[Annoying Younger Sibling|Tsukasa]] occasionally provokes the same reaction in Kagami). Miyuki is frequently judged by Konata to be the penultimate in [[Moe]]...a perfect definition of an Angel if there ever was one. And [[Otaku]] Konata seems to be adored by most of her peers, as opposed to most stereotypes of otakus. She's also athletic and a [[Genius Ditz]] when need be—hence a higher being in the eyes of most otakus.


== Neon Genesis Evangelion was {{spoiler|only the fruit of a complex interaction between the mind of Shinji with a new technology of therapeutic virtual reality technology à la [[The Cell]]}} ==
== Neon Genesis Evangelion was {{spoiler|only the fruit of a complex interaction between the mind of Shinji with a new technology of therapeutic virtual reality technology à la [[The Cell]]}} ==
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== Tokyo-3 was built where it was ''precisely'' to ensure that Eva units are the only defense against the angels. ==
== Tokyo-3 was built where it was ''precisely'' to ensure that Eva units are the only defense against the angels. ==


Basically, there's no good reason to build a city over top of something that is ''sure'' to be attacked, no matter how much of a 'fortress' said city is. Building said city into a massive underground cavern is also a bad idea in Japan; an area well-known for seismic activity. However, there can be an explanation for this: While power calculations done by fans have shown that a megaton-yield thermonuclear device could feasibly kill an angel, you wouldn't want to detonate one of those over a city, especially a city where "cave in" is a legitimate threat. The construction of Tokyo 3 in that specific location may be a deliberate ploy by SEELE to prevent the use of the only non-eva weapon theoretically capable of harming an angel. (Okay, there was that one plan involving 992 N-2 devices but, given the N-2 mine's calculated yield, that would hardly equal a 20mt nuke. To put that in perspective, 25mt weapons were commonly deployed by the US Air Force during the Cold War and Tsar Bomba, the largest thermonuclear device ever created, had a whopping 50mt yield -- at half-power.) This forces humanity to rely on the Eva units, which is exactly what SEELE wants.
Basically, there's no good reason to build a city over top of something that is ''sure'' to be attacked, no matter how much of a 'fortress' said city is. Building said city into a massive underground cavern is also a bad idea in Japan; an area well-known for seismic activity. However, there can be an explanation for this: While power calculations done by fans have shown that a megaton-yield thermonuclear device could feasibly kill an angel, you wouldn't want to detonate one of those over a city, especially a city where "cave in" is a legitimate threat. The construction of Tokyo 3 in that specific location may be a deliberate ploy by SEELE to prevent the use of the only non-eva weapon theoretically capable of harming an angel. (Okay, there was that one plan involving 992 N-2 devices but, given the N-2 mine's calculated yield, that would hardly equal a 20mt nuke. To put that in perspective, 25mt weapons were commonly deployed by the US Air Force during the Cold War and Tsar Bomba, the largest thermonuclear device ever created, had a whopping 50mt yield—at half-power.) This forces humanity to rely on the Eva units, which is exactly what SEELE wants.
* This one seems plausible, seeing how much behind-the-scenes influence and power SEELE and GEHIRN/NERV are shown to have. Also, "While power calculations done by fans have shown that a megaton-yield thermonuclear device could feasibly kill an angel" Please show me this, it sound hilarious.
* This one seems plausible, seeing how much behind-the-scenes influence and power SEELE and GEHIRN/NERV are shown to have. Also, "While power calculations done by fans have shown that a megaton-yield thermonuclear device could feasibly kill an angel" Please show me this, it sound hilarious.
** The previously-mentioned math was on a particularly useful wikipedia talk page which has unfortunately been deleted. It had to do with calculating the amount of energy per unit area in a point-blank thermonuclear detonation. This was then compared with the known output of the positron canon, which penetrated Ramiel's AT field, an AT field that was stated to be unusually strong. According to the calcs, an 800kt initiation at point blank would deliver a comparable amount of energy per unit area as the positron canon, which means it could quite likely penetrate an AT field. We have more powerful ordnance that can be carried by a strike fighter meaning that, should this be true, any US jet fighter manufactured since the 70s would be capable of killing an angel. Unfortunately, the collateral damage would incredible, which means it would be a bad idea to use this method of angel-slaying inside a city.
** The previously-mentioned math was on a particularly useful wikipedia talk page which has unfortunately been deleted. It had to do with calculating the amount of energy per unit area in a point-blank thermonuclear detonation. This was then compared with the known output of the positron canon, which penetrated Ramiel's AT field, an AT field that was stated to be unusually strong. According to the calcs, an 800kt initiation at point blank would deliver a comparable amount of energy per unit area as the positron canon, which means it could quite likely penetrate an AT field. We have more powerful ordnance that can be carried by a strike fighter meaning that, should this be true, any US jet fighter manufactured since the 70s would be capable of killing an angel. Unfortunately, the collateral damage would incredible, which means it would be a bad idea to use this method of angel-slaying inside a city.
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The Force is a connection, binding everything in the galaxy / universe together. But if it existed on its own or if it became too powerful, the minds of every living thing would bleed together through that connection, and rapidly become a single, homogenized consciousness trapped in a state of nirvana, in other words, Human Instrumentality. There would have to be a counterbalancing existence to prevent that from happening. Conversely, if The Force didn't exist, if there were no connection between living things, then Human Instrumentality wouldn't have worked. The souls of mankind would not have been drawn together into a singular collective consciousness, but instead would have floated away individually into the void.
The Force is a connection, binding everything in the galaxy / universe together. But if it existed on its own or if it became too powerful, the minds of every living thing would bleed together through that connection, and rapidly become a single, homogenized consciousness trapped in a state of nirvana, in other words, Human Instrumentality. There would have to be a counterbalancing existence to prevent that from happening. Conversely, if The Force didn't exist, if there were no connection between living things, then Human Instrumentality wouldn't have worked. The souls of mankind would not have been drawn together into a singular collective consciousness, but instead would have floated away individually into the void.
* The Force is the real name of the Anti-AT Field and [[Star Wars|midichlorians]] are actually S2 Engines.
* The Force is the real name of the Anti-AT Field and [[Star Wars|midichlorians]] are actually S2 Engines.
* It can also be said that the AT Fields are the manifestation of the Dark Side of the Force. Think about it. While Jedi try to keep using the Force for peaceful purposes and the Light side of the Force is based on calm, meditation and universal harmony, on the other hand the Dark Side is based on passion, hatred and powerful emotions, those things that determine the strength and isolation of AT Fields, which in turn are of course simply a metaphor for the individual personality.
* It can also be said that the AT Fields are the manifestation of the Dark Side of the Force. Think about it. While Jedi try to keep using the Force for peaceful purposes and the Light side of the Force is based on calm, meditation and universal harmony, on the other hand the Dark Side is based on passion, hatred and powerful emotions, those things that determine the strength and isolation of AT Fields, which in turn are of course simply a metaphor for the individual personality. <br /><br />To understand the effect of the Dark Side on AT Fields, we must fundamentally know the Dark Side causality: Fear is the path to the Dark Side. Fear leads to anger. Anger leads to hate. Hate leads to suffering. Suffering leads to the dark side. (It also helps to know the [[DC Universe|Anti-Life Equation]]: loneliness + alienation + fear + despair + self-worth ÷ mockery ÷ condemnation ÷ misunderstanding x guilt x shame x failure x judgment n=y where y=hope and n=folly, love=lies, life=death, self=dark side) Now what powers AT Fields? What are the dominant emotions that control the world of Evangelion? What are the major factor in our personality and [[Character Development]]? Fear. Intense, raw or negative emotions. Suffering, which influences behaviour. Self, the dark side. <br /><br />Such powerful emotions are how the AT Field manifests itself onto the world, why Shinji is nearly omnipotent in his AT Field abilities, etc. It is also accepted that one has to be fearful and/or mentally deranged enough to manifest powerful emotions and AT Fields if he or she is to become an Evangelion pilot. One of the more obvious of these is the hedgehog's dilemma, the fear of becoming mutual enemies with oneself and others. The stronger the fear is, the stronger one wants to protect and isolate oneself from the rest of humanity, and thus the person is more and more seduced by the Dark Side to acquire more energy for his AT Field. For example, the stronger Shinji's wrath is, the more he manifests the Dark Side energy, which he uses to convert into AT Field energy. What if Shinji did not fear or is a normal person? Besides suffering from lack of character development, he is ignored by mother and gets defeated by the Angels. It was his dark side which allowed him to become an [[Eldritch Abomination]] altogether in End Of Evangelion. Not to mention AT is known as "Absolute Terror", which the Dark Side is supposed to bring upon the world when it manifests. <br /><br />But why do our personalities have to be an extension of the Dark Side, rather than the Light Side? Even though The Light Side is as effective in manipulating the universe as the Dark Side could, the reason why the Light Side is not effective for powering AT Fields is because the Light Side is based on living in harmony with the universe, which of course results in the AT Field being neutralized rather than strengthened. This also meann that the Light Side is the Anti-AT Field used to bring about Instrumentality, or should we say Nirvana. <br /><br />Heck, Psychoanalytical, Jungian or even Hindu and Buddhist metaphors can even be shoved into this: The Force represents the collective unconscious of Brahman, the Light Side represents the path to Nirvana, the AT Field represents the Ego or Individual, while the Dark Side of the Force represents the Id, the personal subconscious desires on which the Ego draws power.<br /><br />This is just an elaboration, but I can see that both the philosophy of the Jedi and the psychology of Evangelion would make an interesting model of metaphysics.

To understand the effect of the Dark Side on AT Fields, we must fundamentally know the Dark Side causality: Fear is the path to the Dark Side. Fear leads to anger. Anger leads to hate. Hate leads to suffering. Suffering leads to the dark side. (It also helps to know the [[DC Universe|Anti-Life Equation]]: loneliness + alienation + fear + despair + self-worth ÷ mockery ÷ condemnation ÷ misunderstanding x guilt x shame x failure x judgment n=y where y=hope and n=folly, love=lies, life=death, self=dark side) Now what powers AT Fields? What are the dominant emotions that control the world of Evangelion? What are the major factor in our personality and [[Character Development]]? Fear. Intense, raw or negative emotions. Suffering, which influences behaviour. Self, the dark side.

Such powerful emotions are how the AT Field manifests itself onto the world, why Shinji is nearly omnipotent in his AT Field abilities, etc. It is also accepted that one has to be fearful and/or mentally deranged enough to manifest powerful emotions and AT Fields if he or she is to become an Evangelion pilot. One of the more obvious of these is the hedgehog's dilemma, the fear of becoming mutual enemies with oneself and others. The stronger the fear is, the stronger one wants to protect and isolate oneself from the rest of humanity, and thus the person is more and more seduced by the Dark Side to acquire more energy for his AT Field. For example, the stronger Shinji's wrath is, the more he manifests the Dark Side energy, which he uses to convert into AT Field energy. What if Shinji did not fear or is a normal person? Besides suffering from lack of character development, he is ignored by mother and gets defeated by the Angels. It was his dark side which allowed him to become an [[Eldritch Abomination]] altogether in End Of Evangelion. Not to mention AT is known as "Absolute Terror", which the Dark Side is supposed to bring upon the world when it manifests.

But why do our personalities have to be an extension of the Dark Side, rather than the Light Side? Even though The Light Side is as effective in manipulating the universe as the Dark Side could, the reason why the Light Side is not effective for powering AT Fields is because the Light Side is based on living in harmony with the universe, which of course results in the AT Field being neutralized rather than strengthened. This also meann that the Light Side is the Anti-AT Field used to bring about Instrumentality, or should we say Nirvana.

Heck, Psychoanalytical, Jungian or even Hindu and Buddhist metaphors can even be shoved into this: The Force represents the collective unconscious of Brahman, the Light Side represents the path to Nirvana, the AT Field represents the Ego or Individual, while the Dark Side of the Force represents the Id, the personal subconscious desires on which the Ego draws power.

This is just an elaboration, but I can see that both the philosophy of the Jedi and the psychology of Evangelion would make an interesting model of metaphysics.
<br />Actually, I thought that the Star Wars Universe is an Instrumentality by Iruel and midichlorians are all him and the Force is an AT Field.
<br />Actually, I thought that the Star Wars Universe is an Instrumentality by Iruel and midichlorians are all him and the Force is an AT Field.
== [[The World Ends With You|Joshua]] and Kaworu are the same person. ==
== [[The World Ends With You|Joshua]] and Kaworu are the same person. ==
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== Kaworu's human donor was Dr. Katsuragi ==
== Kaworu's human donor was Dr. Katsuragi ==
Described in detail [[http://forum.evageeks.org/viewtopic.php?t=1653 here]. Obviously, like with all theories, it has problems, but why not?
Described in detail [http://forum.evageeks.org/viewtopic.php?t=1653 here]. Obviously, like with all theories, it has problems, but why not?


== Angels are the antitheses to [[Pokémon]]. ==
== Angels are the antitheses to [[Pokémon]]. ==
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== The Angels literally and metaphorically wanted a hug from their "parents", but all they got was being raped and murdered by Lilim, which feeds into the emotional theme of the series as a whole. ==
== The Angels literally and metaphorically wanted a hug from their "parents", but all they got was being raped and murdered by Lilim, which feeds into the emotional theme of the series as a whole. ==
The AT Field is the barrier that all living, feeling things have, their emotional personal space if you will. As referenced on the [[Mind Rape]] page, the Angels' external fields could be interpreted as a sign that they are the most lonely, frightened beings in the universe. They came to reconnect with their progenitors, who had been separated from them for billions of years, only to find that not only did their sibling actively not want them there, but that said sibling was willing to violate the Angels' boundaries, destroying them, in order to keep their way of life from being changed. Eventually, the Angels used [[Mind Rape|such]] [[Combat Pragmatist|tactics]] to fight back on the terms that their opponent set, Sahaquiel paving the way for later Angels. {{spoiler|Kaworu}} tried a different tactic: Love, embracing Lilim. It didn't work. The last we see of Lilim? {{spoiler|Lilith/Adam/Rei remove the Lilim's ability to separate themselves from other beings, leaving only the two most emotionally stunted, separatist humans ''on the planet'', who (in at least Shinji's case) couldn't even form a meaningful connection when their parent(s)/sibling/emotional lover [[Mind Rape|Mind Raped]] them to be unable to ''not'' form whatever connection was available}}.
The AT Field is the barrier that all living, feeling things have, their emotional personal space if you will. As referenced on the [[Mind Rape]] page, the Angels' external fields could be interpreted as a sign that they are the most lonely, frightened beings in the universe. They came to reconnect with their progenitors, who had been separated from them for billions of years, only to find that not only did their sibling actively not want them there, but that said sibling was willing to violate the Angels' boundaries, destroying them, in order to keep their way of life from being changed. Eventually, the Angels used [[Mind Rape|such]] [[Combat Pragmatist|tactics]] to fight back on the terms that their opponent set, Sahaquiel paving the way for later Angels. {{spoiler|Kaworu}} tried a different tactic: Love, embracing Lilim. It didn't work. The last we see of Lilim? {{spoiler|Lilith/Adam/Rei remove the Lilim's ability to separate themselves from other beings, leaving only the two most emotionally stunted, separatist humans ''on the planet'', who (in at least Shinji's case) couldn't even form a meaningful connection when their parent(s)/sibling/emotional lover [[Mind Rape]]d them to be unable to ''not'' form whatever connection was available}}.


This ties into the theme of the series, as it extends from the characters and their instabilities, to the way the EVA pilot system works- Even when [[Blue and Orange Morality]] comes into play, ''people need connections''. To shut oneself off from the universe, even when one's environment and one's own body do more to foster that sense of separation than anything that single person can do, leads to problems, inherently contagious problems. The Angels tried to break their self-propagating loneliness, even when it meant lashing out when others were in the way, and {{spoiler|Humanity}} raped their souls and killed their body for the attempt.
This ties into the theme of the series, as it extends from the characters and their instabilities, to the way the EVA pilot system works- Even when [[Blue and Orange Morality]] comes into play, ''people need connections''. To shut oneself off from the universe, even when one's environment and one's own body do more to foster that sense of separation than anything that single person can do, leads to problems, inherently contagious problems. The Angels tried to break their self-propagating loneliness, even when it meant lashing out when others were in the way, and {{spoiler|Humanity}} raped their souls and killed their body for the attempt.


Footnote 1: I'm not saying that {{spoiler|[[Humans Are Bastards]]}} any more than the series already does (which is to say, not entirely but certainly more than a little, and everybody else is just as screwed up), but if you look at it this way, it really does reinforce every aspect of the main point that the series made. Footnote 2: Yes, I know I'm implying a weird {{spoiler|pluralization}}. It's ''[[From a Certain Point of View|technically]]'' correct (whether or not that is [[Futurama|the best kind of correct]]), but I preferred that over spoiler marking nearly every noun in the guess.
Footnote 1: I'm not saying that {{spoiler|[[Humans Are the Real Monsters]]}} any more than the series already does (which is to say, not entirely but certainly more than a little, and everybody else is just as screwed up), but if you look at it this way, it really does reinforce every aspect of the main point that the series made. Footnote 2: Yes, I know I'm implying a weird {{spoiler|pluralization}}. It's ''[[From a Certain Point of View|technically]]'' correct (whether or not that is [[Futurama|the best kind of correct]]), but I preferred that over spoiler marking nearly every noun in the guess.


== Shinji is the descendant of Jesus ==
== Shinji is the descendant of Jesus ==
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== ''[[Madoka Magica]]'' takes place after Instrumentality. ==
== ''[[Madoka Magica]]'' takes place after Instrumentality. ==
Humanity returned to form from the Tang and rebuilt its society...however, their capacity for arrogance, pride, [[Humans Are Bastards|bastardry]] and schadenfreude remained, creating Madoka's cruel world where {{spoiler|idealism and belief in man's better nature ''only'' ever comes at a horrible cost}}.
Humanity returned to form from the Tang and rebuilt its society...however, their capacity for arrogance, pride, [[Humans Are the Real Monsters|bastardry]] and schadenfreude remained, creating Madoka's cruel world where {{spoiler|idealism and belief in man's better nature ''only'' ever comes at a horrible cost}}.
* The {{spoiler|Incubators}} may actually be manifestations of humanity's collective opportunism. {{spoiler|And then in most of the timelines we saw, Madoka's Witch form planned to basically start Instrumentality again, much like God's intention to destroy the world for its sins again in [[The Bible|Revelations]].}}
* The {{spoiler|Incubators}} may actually be manifestations of humanity's collective opportunism. {{spoiler|And then in most of the timelines we saw, Madoka's Witch form planned to basically start Instrumentality again, much like God's intention to destroy the world for its sins again in [[The Bible|Revelations]].}}
* {{spoiler|Madoka is "descended" from Rei; aside from gaining godlike powers and almost starting the "Fourth Impact", she shares Rei's [[Heroic Self-Deprecation|complete lack of self-worth]] and eventual willingness to sacrifice herself.}}
* {{spoiler|Madoka is "descended" from Rei; aside from gaining godlike powers and almost starting the "Fourth Impact", she shares Rei's [[Heroic Self-Deprecation|complete lack of self-worth]] and eventual willingness to sacrifice herself.}}
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