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== [[Anime]] and [[Manga]] == |
== [[Anime]] and [[Manga]] == |
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* In ''[[Suzumiya Haruhi]]'', future selves take great care to conceal themselves from past selves who didn't see their own future selves. However, they also take just as much take care to '''reveal''' themselves to past selves who remember seeing or hearing their future selves. Basically, future selves act so that [[Stable Time Loop|their past self experiences events as their future self remembers them.]] |
* In ''[[Suzumiya Haruhi]]'', future selves take great care to conceal themselves from past selves who didn't see their own future selves. However, they also take just as much take care to '''reveal''' themselves to past selves who remember seeing or hearing their future selves. Basically, future selves act so that [[Stable Time Loop|their past self experiences events as their future self remembers them.]] |
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* One ''Wolverine'' comic involves Jubilee going back in time. Her past self temporarily disappears. |
* One ''Wolverine'' comic involves Jubilee going back in time. Her past self temporarily disappears. |
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== [[Fan Works]] == |
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* Around the time ''[[Titanic]]'' came out, a lot of ''[[Doctor Who]]'' fanfics got written with the Doctor and co. visiting the doomed ship. One fanfic lampshades this by having the TARDIS appear on the ''Titanic'' only for the Doctor to moan, "Oh not again!" His companions look around and notice that a large percentage of the passengers are [[The Nth Doctor|different versions of the Doctor]] and his various companions. "The TARDIS just seems to ''like'' the North Atlantic," he sighs. |
* Around the time ''[[Titanic]]'' came out, a lot of ''[[Doctor Who]]'' fanfics got written with the Doctor and co. visiting the doomed ship. One fanfic lampshades this by having the TARDIS appear on the ''Titanic'' only for the Doctor to moan, "Oh not again!" His companions look around and notice that a large percentage of the passengers are [[The Nth Doctor|different versions of the Doctor]] and his various companions. "The TARDIS just seems to ''like'' the North Atlantic," he sighs. |
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* There was a ''[[My Little Pony: |
* There was a ''[[My Little Pony: Friendship Is Magic]]'' fanfic which involved Rainbow Dash travelling in time to set herself and Applejack up. Eventually, because of this, she, Applejack, and Twilight Sparkle are all jumping through time trying to make sure the right versions of themselves meet at the right time. It ends up with several dozen of each pony getting very confused. {{spoiler|And then [[It Got Worse|Scootaloo gets caught up too...]]}} |
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** Another fanfic, [[On A Cross And Arrow]], instead had dimensional travel replacing time travel. Twilight ended up sending the Mane Six into an alternate dimension where everyone is genderswapped |
** Another fanfic, [[On A Cross And Arrow]], instead had dimensional travel replacing time travel. Twilight ended up sending the Mane Six into an alternate dimension where everyone is genderswapped versions of themselves. She feared that if they met their alternate selves, they would explode or something. {{spoiler|Thankfully, this isn't the case in the slightest.}} |
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== [[Film]] == |
== [[Film]] == |
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* In [[Anne McCaffrey]]'s ''[[Dragonriders of Pern]]'' novels, time-travel is generally exhausting, but is substantially more so when traveling near oneself. This one's also an example in a [[Stable Time Loop]] world. |
* In [[Anne McCaffrey]]'s ''[[Dragonriders of Pern]]'' novels, time-travel is generally exhausting, but is substantially more so when traveling near oneself. This one's also an example in a [[Stable Time Loop]] world. |
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** Note that ''both'' selves will feel the effects. If you suddenly feel dizzy and weak for no reason, it might mean that future-you is in the vicinity. |
** Note that ''both'' selves will feel the effects. If you suddenly feel dizzy and weak for no reason, it might mean that future-you is in the vicinity. |
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* The [[Star Wars Expanded Universe]] novel ''[[The Thrawn Trilogy|The Last Command]]'' by [[Timothy Zahn]] has a variant of this trope, involving [[Cloning Blues|clones]] instead of time travel. Clones grown near other set up "resonance effects" in the Force, which can drive them insane, and when Luke encounters his clone, he finds the experience incredibly off-putting: there's a buzzing hum in the Force that makes it hard to concentrate or think, making it difficult to fight the clone. This only seems to affect clones whose growth has been accelerated to an extreme |
* The [[Star Wars Expanded Universe]] novel ''[[The Thrawn Trilogy|The Last Command]]'' by [[Timothy Zahn]] has a variant of this trope, involving [[Cloning Blues|clones]] instead of time travel. Clones grown near other set up "resonance effects" in the Force, which can drive them insane, and when Luke encounters his clone, he finds the experience incredibly off-putting: there's a buzzing hum in the Force that makes it hard to concentrate or think, making it difficult to fight the clone. This only seems to affect clones whose growth has been accelerated to an extreme degree — having them grow up in under a year, for instance — and Force-sensitive clones, since the clone army in the prequels (who take about 10 years to grow up) doesn't have any problems with this. Thrawn figures out a way around it in the same novel, using lizards that can push away the Force to guarantee against the clone madness ''and'' dramatically decrease the time to grow them even further. |
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* One of the most important rules of [[Time Travel]] in [[Harry Potter]] |
* One of the most important rules of [[Time Travel]] in ''[[Harry Potter]]'': Don't be seen by yourself. You could panic and kill your past or future self. Notable for not really being a result of time travel so much as just being a duplicate. Though not spelled out explicitly in the books, this could have something to do with the existence of Polyjuice Potion—in most non-time-travel related situations where you notice a duplicate of yourself, it means someone's up to no good. As Harry's own experience with [[Time Travel]], which was the only one the readers were able to follow, turned out to be a [[Stable Time Loop]], the killing-your-past-self thing is unlikely to ever happen. |
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* The ''Time Scout'' series, which already presents time travel as potentially dangerous if you don't get the small details right, also avoids the meet-yourself problem by making it clear that you must never go back to a time when you already exist, either by having been born by then, or having previously visited via time travel; otherwise, since you can't be in two places at once, the "current" you who went back in time would simply wink out of existence the instant you arrived, and that's the end of you. |
* The ''[[Time Scout]]'' series, which already presents time travel as potentially dangerous if you don't get the small details right, also avoids the meet-yourself problem by making it clear that you must never go back to a time when you already exist, either by having been born by then, or having previously visited via time travel; otherwise, since you can't be in two places at once, the "current" you who went back in time would simply wink out of existence the instant you arrived, and that's the end of you. |
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* In [[Connie Willis]]'s time-travel books, you simply ''can't'' go back to a time you've already visited. If you try |
* In [[Connie Willis]]'s time-travel books, you simply ''can't'' go back to a time you've already visited. If you try it — or if your presence, for any reason, would cause a paradox of some sort — either the "net" (via which one time-travels) simply won't open, or it will deposit you slightly awry (in time and/or space) of your intended destination. Cosmic Censorship may be at work here: if you cause a paradox, then the next version of you is sent to a slightly different point (or the machine fails), repeat until there's no paradox. |
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* Subverted in ''[[The Hitchhiker's Guide to the Galaxy]]'' novel ''[[The Hitchhiker's Guide to the Galaxy/Life, The Universe And Everything|Life The Universe And Everything]]''; Ford Prefect and Arthur Dent arrive on Earth shortly before its destruction. Ford (who had, in the previous novel, explained to Arthur that history cannot be changed because [[Stable Time Loop|it all fits together like a jigsaw]]), warns Arthur against phoning to warn himself. Not because it'll do anything to the timestream, but just because it won't work. It had already been noted in ''The Restaurant at the End of the Universe'' that no matter how many times you visit the restaurant in the title, which you would always do in the universe's last half-hour or so, you are guaranteed to never run into yourself "because of the embarrassment this usually causes," despite this being impossible. How the people responsible for the restaurant's operation pull this off is not explained, but it is [[Lampshade Hanging|lampshaded]] magnificently along with other things about Milliway's by the Guide's repeated use of the phrase "This is, of course, impossible", and the restaurant's advertising slogan: "If you've done six impossible things today already, why not round it off with breakfast at Milliway's, the Restaurant at the End of the |
* Subverted in ''[[The Hitchhiker's Guide to the Galaxy]]'' novel ''[[The Hitchhiker's Guide to the Galaxy/Life, The Universe And Everything|Life, The Universe And Everything]]''; Ford Prefect and Arthur Dent arrive on Earth shortly before its destruction. Ford (who had, in the previous novel, explained to Arthur that history cannot be changed because [[Stable Time Loop|it all fits together like a jigsaw]]), warns Arthur against phoning to warn himself. Not because it'll do anything to the timestream, but just because it won't work. It had already been noted in ''The Restaurant at the End of the Universe'' that no matter how many times you visit the restaurant in the title, which you would always do in the universe's last half-hour or so, you are guaranteed to never run into yourself "because of the embarrassment this usually causes," despite this being impossible. How the people responsible for the restaurant's operation pull this off is not explained, but it is [[Lampshade Hanging|lampshaded]] magnificently along with other things about Milliway's by the Guide's repeated use of the phrase "This is, of course, impossible", and the restaurant's advertising slogan: "If you've done [[Alice in Wonderland|six impossible things today already, why not round it off with breakfast]] at Milliway's, the Restaurant at the End of the Universe?". |
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* [[Diana Wynne Jones]]' novels often involve alternate universes and occasionally also time travel, which means they touch on this from time to time: |
* [[Diana Wynne Jones]]' novels often involve alternate universes and occasionally also time travel, which means they touch on this from time to time: |
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** ''A Sudden Wild Magic'' has an example similar to the ''Stargate'' one below—travel into alternate universes is possible, but causes instant death for anyone with a counterpart in that universe. |
** ''A Sudden Wild Magic'' has an example similar to the ''Stargate'' one below—travel into alternate universes is possible, but causes instant death for anyone with a counterpart in that universe. |
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* In the ''[[Warcraft]]'' time-traveling trilogy ''[[War of the Ancients]]'', the character Krasus (a dragon shapeshifted into an elf) is unable to transform into his dragon form because he already exists, as his younger counterpart Korialstraz. Likewise, Korialstraz is unable to transform into anything else. The two are weaker the farther apart they are, but become stronger when they're close. The two work around this problem somewhat by giving each other one of their scales. |
* In the ''[[Warcraft]]'' time-traveling trilogy ''[[War of the Ancients]]'', the character Krasus (a dragon shapeshifted into an elf) is unable to transform into his dragon form because he already exists, as his younger counterpart Korialstraz. Likewise, Korialstraz is unable to transform into anything else. The two are weaker the farther apart they are, but become stronger when they're close. The two work around this problem somewhat by giving each other one of their scales. |
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* Subverted in book six of the ''Artemis Fowl'' series, appropriately titled "The Time Paradox". The premise is that {{spoiler|in order to save his mother, Artemis must travel back in time to stop his past self from wiping out the last of the silky sifaka lemurs, whose brain fluid can cure her. Artemis meets himself, does battle with himself several times (and Butler, who's arguably the more dangerous of the two), and eventually the two Artemises collaborate to bring down Opal Koboi.}} |
* Subverted in book six of the ''Artemis Fowl'' series, appropriately titled "The Time Paradox". The premise is that {{spoiler|in order to save his mother, Artemis must travel back in time to stop his past self from wiping out the last of the silky sifaka lemurs, whose brain fluid can cure her. Artemis meets himself, does battle with himself several times (and Butler, who's arguably the more dangerous of the two), and eventually the two Artemises collaborate to bring down Opal Koboi.}} |
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* In ''The End of Eternity'', there is a natural law that keeps Reality from developing paradoxes, and thus keeps anyone from meeting his own past self. (The standard [[Grandfather Paradox]] is dismissed as the speculation of people who don't know about time travel.) So when the main character does see his own future self going about his time-travelling business, it's a sign that the normal way of things is beginning to fall apart. |
* In ''[[The End of Eternity]]'', there is a natural law that keeps Reality from developing paradoxes, and thus keeps anyone from meeting his own past self. (The standard [[Grandfather Paradox]] is dismissed as the speculation of people who don't know about time travel.) So when the main character does see his own future self going about his time-travelling business, it's a sign that the normal way of things is beginning to fall apart. |
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* In [[The Book of the New Sun]], Severian feels absolutely certain that if he accidentally met himself while time traveling, one or both of them would go mad and kill the other. |
* In ''[[The Book of the New Sun]]'', Severian feels absolutely certain that if he accidentally met himself while time traveling, one or both of them would go mad and kill the other. |
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== [[Live Action TV]] == |
== [[Live Action TV]] == |
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** The never-aging Captain Jack, {{spoiler|while trapped in 1901, orders himself [[Human Popsicle|cryogenically frozen]] to avoid meeting in the intervening decades before the present,}} and to prevent himself from meeting his [[Doctor Who|"Boom Town"]] self in 2006. |
** The never-aging Captain Jack, {{spoiler|while trapped in 1901, orders himself [[Human Popsicle|cryogenically frozen]] to avoid meeting in the intervening decades before the present,}} and to prevent himself from meeting his [[Doctor Who|"Boom Town"]] self in 2006. |
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** At the end of "Kiss Kiss Bang Bang," the whole team, having gone back to earlier that day, are told that they must avoid themselves. |
** At the end of "Kiss Kiss Bang Bang," the whole team, having gone back to earlier that day, are told that they must avoid themselves. |
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** It seems, though, that they're more worried about changing their own history than a [[Time Crash]] resulting from simply being in the same place, since the same person being in the same place has happened so many times safely. If you interfere where you've ''already'' interfered, though, the [[Clock Roaches]] will |
** It seems, though, that they're more worried about changing their own history than a [[Time Crash]] resulting from simply being in the same place, since the same person being in the same place has happened so many times safely. If you interfere where you've ''already'' interfered, though, the [[Clock Roaches]] will get you, as seen in the aforementioned ''DW'' episode, "Father's Day". |
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* In ''[[Seven Days]]'', whenever Parker travels back in time, his younger self, the sphere, and one trip's worth of their alien fuel source vanishes. |
* In ''[[Seven Days]]'', whenever Parker travels back in time, his younger self, the sphere, and one trip's worth of their alien fuel source vanishes. |
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* Generally averted in ''[[Heroes (TV series)|Heroes]]'', as several characters have met past or future selves without anything happening because of it. It's occasionally [[Discussed Trope|discussed]], though: |
* Generally averted in ''[[Heroes (TV series)|Heroes]]'', as several characters have met past or future selves without anything happening because of it. It's occasionally [[Discussed Trope|discussed]], though: |
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* This trope gets smashes into the ground with the character of Martin Summers in ''[[Ashes to Ashes]]''. Then again, in the light of the finale, {{spoiler|whether it ''actually'' applies is debatable}}. |
* This trope gets smashes into the ground with the character of Martin Summers in ''[[Ashes to Ashes]]''. Then again, in the light of the finale, {{spoiler|whether it ''actually'' applies is debatable}}. |
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* [[NBC]]'s ''[[Journeyman]]'' doesn't even bother to explain why you shouldn't be seen by your other self—it just assumes you already know that. Though the main character is able to have a fistfight with his past self, so it's at least OK as long as your past self doesn't get a good look at you. |
* [[NBC]]'s ''[[Journeyman]]'' doesn't even bother to explain why you shouldn't be seen by your other self—it just assumes you already know that. Though the main character is able to have a fistfight with his past self, so it's at least OK as long as your past self doesn't get a good look at you. |
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** Like ''[[Back to The Future]]'', this winds up less of a cosmic rule and more of a |
** Like ''[[Back to The Future]]'', this winds up less of a cosmic rule and more of a guideline to prevent paradoxes, since the timeline is ''very'' malleable (case in point, the time he {{spoiler|left a digital camera in the 1980s, which subsequently retconned his own son out of existence}}). But the protagonist is very [[Genre Savvy]] from the get-go. |
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* ''[[Red Dwarf]]'' does this too, at the end of series 6. The crew's future selves travel back in time to meet them as they are at that point for some repairs. Kryten admonishes the crew to not contact the future Dwarfers to avoid gaining inappropriate knowledge of the future. They watch instead, and despise what they became. The result? 'I say we fight. ... Better dead than smeg.' From the snivelling, whining coward (according to everyone, including himself) Rimmer. Causes a paradox anyway, but that's what they ''wanted'' at that point. |
* ''[[Red Dwarf]]'' does this too, at the end of series 6. The crew's future selves travel back in time to meet them as they are at that point for some repairs. Kryten admonishes the crew to not contact the future Dwarfers to avoid gaining inappropriate knowledge of the future. They watch instead, and despise what they became. The result? 'I say we fight. ... Better dead than smeg.' From the snivelling, whining coward (according to everyone, including himself) Rimmer. Causes a paradox anyway, but that's what they ''wanted'' at that point. |
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* In the outtake "Orchid Orientation Film" from the ''[[Lost]]'' season 3 DVDs, a time travel experiment involving bunnies apparently goes wrong. The scientist shields one of two identical bunnies from the other and shouts, "Don't let them see each other!" The series proper averts the trope, though. |
* In the outtake "Orchid Orientation Film" from the ''[[Lost]]'' season 3 DVDs, a time travel experiment involving bunnies apparently goes wrong. The scientist shields one of two identical bunnies from the other and shouts, "Don't let them see each other!" The series proper averts the trope, though. |
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* In ''[[Fate/stay night]]'', it's explained that having copies of the same person present in the same time period causes a strain on reality that will manifest on both copies, as reality cannot truly distinguish between them. They will slowly start siphoning knowledge and skills from each other merely by being around each other, and eventually, one or the other has to go. This is compounded more directly in-story by {{spoiler|the future copy trying to cause a time paradox by killing his younger version so he can stop existing.}} |
* In ''[[Fate/stay night]]'', it's explained that having copies of the same person present in the same time period causes a strain on reality that will manifest on both copies, as reality cannot truly distinguish between them. They will slowly start siphoning knowledge and skills from each other merely by being around each other, and eventually, one or the other has to go. This is compounded more directly in-story by {{spoiler|the future copy trying to cause a time paradox by killing his younger version so he can stop existing.}} |
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* Subverted in one of the ''[[Sam and Max]]'' episodes, involving a lot of time travel. The duo meet their past selves from a year and a half earlier, putting them early in the previous season. It doesn't mess up the universe, but it does result in Sam and Max {{spoiler|getting trapped in the past and having to relive the entire year and a half over again because the past versions of themselves steal the time machine}}. |
* Subverted in one of the ''[[Sam and Max]]'' episodes, involving a lot of time travel. The duo meet their past selves from a year and a half earlier, putting them early in the previous season. It doesn't mess up the universe, but it does result in Sam and Max {{spoiler|getting trapped in the past and having to relive the entire year and a half over again because the past versions of themselves steal the time machine}}. |
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* Through the mixed-up and convoluted story of ''[[Sonic the Hedgehog (2006 video game) |
* Through the mixed-up and convoluted story of ''[[Sonic the Hedgehog (2006 video game)|Sonic the Hedgehog 2006]]'', this essentially takes place. There probably isn't a time where there aren't at least two Sonics/Silvers/Shadows running around at the same time, just in different locations. For example, late in the game, Sonic, Silver, and (strangely) [[Sonic Rush Series|Blaze]] find themselves on a cliff, while Doctor Eggman's Egg Carrier crashes into the side of a mountain, leaving Sonic to believe Elise is dead. Silver then suggests Sonic goes back in time to rescue her. While this happening, {{spoiler|Sonic has already done so. He and Elise had already escaped the crash just as the carrier exploded.}} |
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** Averted in ''[[Sonic Generations]]''. The entire gimmick of the game revolves around both Classic and Modern Sonics (and they meet up rather quickly.) In addition, there is also a meeting up of Classic and Modern Tails {{spoiler|and Classic and Modern Eggman - who both pilot the final boss.}} |
** Averted in ''[[Sonic Generations]]''. The entire gimmick of the game revolves around both Classic and Modern Sonics (and they meet up rather quickly.) In addition, there is also a meeting up of Classic and Modern Tails {{spoiler|and Classic and Modern Eggman - who both pilot the final boss.}} |
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* ''[[Portal 2]]'' has the quote at the top of this page. |
* ''[[Portal 2]]'' has the quote at the top of this page. |
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* In ''[[Onimusha]] 3: Demon Siege'', {{spoiler|player-Samanosuke comes back in time and sees his alternate-timeline self laying slain by Nobunaga. Touching his Oni Gauntlet merges the two together and the combined power from the paradox enables Nobunaga's defeat.}} |
* In ''[[Onimusha]] 3: Demon Siege'', {{spoiler|player-Samanosuke comes back in time and sees his alternate-timeline self laying slain by Nobunaga. Touching his Oni Gauntlet merges the two together and the combined power from the paradox enables Nobunaga's defeat.}} |
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* Example in ''Alfheim'': [https://web.archive.org/web/20131029072810/http://www.bookelves.com/archive/alfheim-current.php?p=54 "One false move and we're all pink wombats!"] |
* Example in ''Alfheim'': [https://web.archive.org/web/20131029072810/http://www.bookelves.com/archive/alfheim-current.php?p=54 "One false move and we're all pink wombats!"] |
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* Mostly averted in ''[[Schlock Mercenary]]'', except that Schlock's [[Bizarre Alien Biology]] causes him to involuntarily merge with his doppelganger. |
* Mostly averted in ''[[Schlock Mercenary]]'', except that Schlock's [[Bizarre Alien Biology]] causes him to involuntarily merge with his doppelganger. |
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* Happens in ''[[Sluggy Freelance]]'', though for far more mundane reasons. |
* Happens in ''[[Sluggy Freelance]]'', though for far more mundane reasons. |
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{{quote|"If some guy came up to me claiming to be my future self, I'd sense a setup and toss him overboard, figuring if he ''was'' me I would have expected that."}} |
{{quote|"If some guy came up to me claiming to be my future self, I'd sense a setup and toss him overboard, figuring if he ''was'' me I would have expected that."}} |
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** Meeting and hanging around with yourself in Timeless Space is generally considered a bad idea, since it means you've managed to escape once before (and returned later), and most denizens of the place would ''kill'' to find out how you did it (or to prevent their enemies from finding it out). Having a normal twin is even more dangerous since people will just think you managed to escape even |
** Meeting and hanging around with yourself in Timeless Space is generally considered a bad idea, since it means you've managed to escape once before (and returned later), and most denizens of the place would ''kill'' to find out how you did it (or to prevent their enemies from finding it out). Having a normal twin is even more dangerous since people will just think you managed to escape even though you never did. |
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* One of the results of [http://www.penny-arcade.com/comic/2004/5/3/ Gabe using a time helmet] in ''[[Penny Arcade]]'' and meeting himself apparently involves reality breaking into warring shards floating in a sea of un-time. |
* One of the results of [http://www.penny-arcade.com/comic/2004/5/3/ Gabe using a time helmet] in ''[[Penny Arcade]]'' and meeting himself apparently involves reality breaking into warring shards floating in a sea of un-time. |
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* One of the big issues in the first time travel arc of ''[[Casey and Andy]]'', when several of the main characters end up back in the time when they were in high school. But it's easy to find the young Casey and Andy, since you only have to {{spoiler|look for the biggest explosion.}} |
* One of the big issues in the first time travel arc of ''[[Casey and Andy]]'', when several of the main characters end up back in the time when they were in high school. But it's easy to find the young Casey and Andy, since you only have to {{spoiler|look for the biggest explosion.}} |
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== [[Western Animation]] == |
== [[Western Animation]] == |
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* The ''[[Ben 10: |
* The ''[[Ben 10: Alien Force]]'' episode "Paradox" has Kevin's car turned into a literal rust bucket by a time monster that ages anything it touches. At the end of the episode, Paradox gives them a new (old?) car, with the warning that it will "explode like antimatter" if it comes into contact with anything else from 1976. However, earlier in the episode, Paradox spoke to an alternate universe version of himself without any ill effects - granted, they did not shake hands or anything, but still...<ref>[[Word of God]] is that Paradox was joking about Kevin's car.</ref> |
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* One episode of ''[[Buzz Lightyear of Star Command]]'' has the heroes encounter their alternates from another dimension (where the biggest difference was that Buzz himself was evil). XR warns the team to avoid touching their counterparts—just as the two Boosters greet each other with a hug. When nothing happens, XR remarks on the trope not applying. |
* One episode of ''[[Buzz Lightyear of Star Command]]'' has the heroes encounter their alternates from another dimension (where the biggest difference was that Buzz himself was evil). XR warns the team to avoid touching their counterparts—just as the two Boosters greet each other with a hug. When nothing happens, XR remarks on the trope not applying. |
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* In the ''[[Futurama]]'' movie ''Bender's Big Score'', we learn that duplicates of persons or objects created by time travel are automatically doomed, as a form of [[Equivalent Exchange]]. This becomes a plot point as we learn that {{spoiler|Leela's new fiancee is another version of Fry, and calls off the wedding rather than subject Leela to the grief caused by his ultimate demise.}} At the end, hundreds of Bender duplicates appear and {{spoiler|as they explode one by one, the sheer volume of temporal anomalies leads to a rupture in the universe - and a [[Sequel Hook]] for the next movie.}} This is ''almost'' a subversion as until time corrects the paradox by destroying the duplicate duplicates are free to touch and interact with each other. |
* In the ''[[Futurama]]'' movie ''Bender's Big Score'', we learn that duplicates of persons or objects created by time travel are automatically doomed, as a form of [[Equivalent Exchange]]. This becomes a plot point as we learn that {{spoiler|Leela's new fiancee is another version of Fry, and calls off the wedding rather than subject Leela to the grief caused by his ultimate demise.}} At the end, hundreds of Bender duplicates appear and {{spoiler|as they explode one by one, the sheer volume of temporal anomalies leads to a rupture in the universe - and a [[Sequel Hook]] for the next movie.}} This is ''almost'' a subversion as until time corrects the paradox by destroying the duplicate duplicates are free to touch and interact with each other. |
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** Other than the alterations Vandal wanted to cause, his meeting of his past self didn't seem to cause any major damage. |
** Other than the alterations Vandal wanted to cause, his meeting of his past self didn't seem to cause any major damage. |
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** The ''[[Batman Beyond]]'' version of Batman had no recollection of his younger self's perspective of their meeting or the events that led to the meeting. |
** The ''[[Batman Beyond]]'' version of Batman had no recollection of his younger self's perspective of their meeting or the events that led to the meeting. |
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* ''[[Bump in the Night]]'': Mr. Bumpy |
* ''[[Bump in the Night]]'': Mr. Bumpy unwittingly insulted Squishington, who locked himself away as a result of it. Bumpy then went back in time to prevent that but failed. Then he went back ''again'' and failed ''again''. The three Bumpys then got an advice from Future Squishington and apologized to their friend. When Squishington asked the Bumpys why there were three of them, they disintegrated because they didn't agree on which ones had to leave. |
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* ''[[Gargoyles]]'': When David Xanatos went back in time to [[Stable Time Loop|set the events that would lead to his past self receiving the ancient coin he sold in order to have the money to]] [[Self-Made Man|start his fortune]], Demona went back as well and tried to persuade her past self into a [[Face Heel Turn]] earlier than she did in the original timeline. She failed but claimed she remembered that meeting from her past self's point of view and stated the past couldn't be changed. |
* ''[[Gargoyles]]'': When David Xanatos went back in time to [[Stable Time Loop|set the events that would lead to his past self receiving the ancient coin he sold in order to have the money to]] [[Self-Made Man|start his fortune]], Demona went back as well and tried to persuade her past self into a [[Face Heel Turn]] earlier than she did in the original timeline. She failed but claimed she remembered that meeting from her past self's point of view and stated the past couldn't be changed. |
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* ''[[Pinky and The Brain]]'' received a visit from their future selves with a plan to go to the future (a future ruled by cockroaches) to steal a kit to take over the world. [[Failure Is the Only Option|Not only the plan failed, as usual]], but they ended with several Pinkys and several The Brains. |
* ''[[Pinky and The Brain]]'' received a visit from their future selves with a plan to go to the future (a future ruled by cockroaches) to steal a kit to take over the world. [[Failure Is the Only Option|Not only the plan failed, as usual]], but they ended with several Pinkys and several The Brains. |
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* In the ''[[Codename: Kids Next Door]]'' episode "Operation: F.U.T.U.R.E.", this is Zigzagged. The villain was apparently able to create the [[Bad Future]] not only by doing this intentionally, but by keeping in regular contact with her future self. On the other hand, Numbuh Four's future self did speak to him after giving the rest of the team vital information needed to [[Set Right What Once Went Wrong]], but he never told them who he was. {{spoiler|And given what is revealed in the [[Series Finale]], it would seem that this future timeline is undone completely, and Numbuh Four's future is changed.}} |
* In the ''[[Codename: Kids Next Door]]'' episode "Operation: F.U.T.U.R.E.", this is Zigzagged. The villain was apparently able to create the [[Bad Future]] not only by doing this intentionally, but by keeping in regular contact with her future self. On the other hand, Numbuh Four's future self did speak to him after giving the rest of the team vital information needed to [[Set Right What Once Went Wrong]], but he never told them who he was. {{spoiler|And given what is revealed in the [[Series Finale]], it would seem that this future timeline is undone completely, and Numbuh Four's future is changed.}} |
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* This Trope is ''defied'' in the ''[[Dexter's Laboratory]]'' movie ''Ego Trip'', where the Dexter everyone's familiar with uses his [[Time Machine]] to form a team consisting of himself and his Teenage, Adult, and Elderly selves to [[Set Right What Once Went Wrong]], courtesy of Mandark's tampering. There was no [[Earthshattering Kaboom]], {{spoiler| despite the fact that Mandark used the same trick to fight them. In fact, after Dee Dee intervenes, she accidentally crates a future utopia.}} |
* This Trope is ''defied'' in the ''[[Dexter's Laboratory]]'' movie ''Ego Trip'', where the Dexter everyone's familiar with uses his [[Time Machine]] to form a team consisting of himself and his Teenage, Adult, and Elderly selves to [[Set Right What Once Went Wrong]], courtesy of Mandark's tampering. There was no [[Earthshattering Kaboom]], {{spoiler| despite the fact that Mandark used the same trick to fight them. In fact, after Dee Dee intervenes, she accidentally crates a future utopia.}} |
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* The ''[[Miraculous Ladybug]]'' episode "Timebreaker" defies it twice-over. Not only is Ladybug easily able to safely interact with - and form a team with - her past self, but Hawk Moth gets the smart idea to double his pawn's power by sending a second akuma to corrupt the past one, so ''they'' can also form a team. [[Fridge Brilliance]] kicks in here, as two Ladybugs were likely needed to purify two akumas. |
* The ''[[Miraculous Ladybug]]'' episode "Timebreaker" defies it twice-over. Not only is Ladybug easily able to safely interact with - and form a team with - her past self, but Hawk Moth gets the smart idea to double his pawn's power by sending a second akuma to corrupt the past one, so ''they'' can also form a team. [[Fridge Brilliance]] kicks in here, as two Ladybugs were likely needed to purify two akumas. |
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