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[[File:Let's Make America Great Again button.jpeg|thumb|250px|This trope even applies in politics.]]
{{quote|''Ponder Stibbons was indeed first drawn in 1996. I, of course, used a time machine to 'get the idea' of Unseen University from Hogwarts; I don't know what Paul used in this case. Obviously he must have used ''something''.''|'''[[Terry Pratchett]]''', on the similarities between ''[[Discworld]]'' and ''[[Harry Potter]]'', quoted at [http://www.lspace.org/books/apf/the-last-hero.html The Annotated Pratchett File page] discussing ''[[Discworld/The Last Hero|The Last Hero]]''}}
 
Simply defined, a fan thinks a trope, plot, or line was invented by a show he or she watches, when in truth its origins lie farther back in history.
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Tropes tend to be much older than they appear, even if they aren't one of [[The Oldest Ones in the Book]], so it's increasingly likely that a viewer of a specific program won't be familiar with the original source of whatever is on display.
 
This can also be inverted by fans, who see a modern adaptation of some older classic they're unfamiliar with, and incorrectly assume some newly introduced trope was part of the original work. The ultimate expression of this is the [[Unbuilt Trope]]—someone — someone did it previously, examined it, deconstructed it, zig-zagged it, all spectacularly, finished the story's run, but is now remembered mostly nostalgically, not for its trope.
 
See also the more extreme [[Fleeting Demographic Rule]]. Compare with classical music [[Covered Up]], [[Name's the Same]], [[Popcultural Osmosis]], [[Seinfeld Is Unfunny]], [[Revival by Commercialization]], [[Sequel Displacement]], and the [["Weird Al" Effect]]. Somewhat related to [[Adaptation Displacement]]. Contrast with [[Newer Than They Think]]. Do not confuse with [[Older Than They Look]]. There will be a short quiz at the end of class.
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For examples of people referencing trope in fiction, see [[It's Been Done]].
 
{{examples on subpages|Most examples of Older Than They Think are listed on these subpages}}
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== Memes ==
* You know the "moths like lamps" memes that Know Your Meme said [https://knowyourmeme.com/memes/moth-lamp started in 2018]? Well, moths having been attracted to flames/candles has been of interest to Sufi Islamic Poets for a long time. For example the poem ''Judge A Moth By The Beauty Of Its Candle'' was written by a 13th century poet known as Rumi. In Sufi poetry, the moth and flame are a metaphor. The moth is a human and the flame is god. The flame is too powerful for a moth's body to survive close contact, but a moth may approach it out of love anyways. Such a moth could be likened to a pious god loving human.
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