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{{quote|''"[[Animation Age Ghetto|You're dead if you aim only for kids.]] [[Fridge Brilliance|Adults are only kids grown up, anyway.]]"''
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== In-universe examples ==
=== Anime ===
* ''[[Ore no Imouto ga Konna ni Kawaii Wake ga Nai!|Ore Imo]]'': Central to the premise. Kirino, a 14-year old girl, loves playing little sister-themed [[Eroge|H-Games]] due to liking the [[Moe Moe|incredibly cute]] character designs.
* In one of the episodes of ''[[Vicky the Viking]]'', the protagonist's father secretly listened to a children's story about a girl since he found it very touching.
* Konata, the [[Otaku Surrogate]] from ''[[Lucky Star]]'', is another underaged female anime character fond of [[Eroge]]s aimed at an adult male demographic
 
=== Film ===
* ''[[UHF (film)|UHF]]'' uses this [[Show Within a Show|in-universe]]. ''Stanley Spudkowski's Funhouse'', a typical [[Saturday Morning Kids Show]], ends up with much more than kids wanting to see it.
 
=== [[Live -Action TV]] ===
* Dave Lister from the British sci-fi sitcom ''[[Red Dwarf]]'' is a self professed fan of ''[[Spot the Dog]]''.
* Jack Hodgins from Bones is revealed in the episode "The Bone in the Bounty" to be a fan of children's show and [[Bill Nye the Science Guy|Bill Nye]] [[expy]] Bunsen Jude the Science Dude. When told "you're a bit older than my usual audience", he explains that it was a drinking game.
 
=== [[Video Games]] ===
* ''[[Ace Attorney|]]'': Phoenix Wright]] chides his assistant Maya (17) for enjoying ''The Steel Samurai'', a [[Sentai]] show that she readily admits is marketed for 10-year-olds. Later games reveal that [[The Rival|Miles Edgeworth]] is as much of a rabid fan, if not moreso, than Maya, despite being in his mid-20's. Must be an attorney thing.
 
=== [[Web Comics]] ===
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* On ''[[Regular Show]]'', an 80s band called Fist Pump, who cater more to children, was shown to have an audience almost entirely of adults. [[Fridge Brilliance|Given the show's own audience, it might be an in-joke]].
* Hey, [[My Little Pony: Friendship Is Magic|Big Macintosh]], can I have my Smartypants doll back? Eeee-nope!!
* In ''[[FoxTrot]]'', both Jason and Paige clashed over the [[The Lord of the Rings]] movies. He went because it was [[The Lord of the Rings]], she went because of ... [[Orlando Bloom]].
 
 
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* Even [[Berserk]] has a much larger female audience than you would logically expect from its well earned fame as one of the goriest, most disturbing anime around. This is because its female characters are non-stereotypical (not to mention that it is perhaps one of the few works of fiction that treats {{spoiler|rape}} and its psychological repercussions with realism and, what do you know, respect. And that, as fans will quickly tell you, the main story is based on more universal and epic matters than "tits and gore" infamy be dammed.
* ''[[Daily Lives of High School Boys]]'' is targeted to the [[Seinen Demographic]], but like most works in this genre it has a sizable female readership—due to the fact that most of the cast is male. The ending credits message for Episode 6, aired on the midnight before Valentine's Day, [[Lampshaded]] this:
{{quote|''It may be Valentine's Day, but don't send the characters chocolate or anything. If you're sending it anyway, please send it to [[Sunrise (company)||the studio]], not the TV station.''}}
 
== ComicsComic Books ==
* The [[Marvel]] ''[[Transformers Generation 1]]'' comic would occasionally get letters from parents who admitted to reading their kids' comics after dropping the young 'uns off at school. One wonders how the kids would feel if their friends happened to read that letter.
* For a line marketed mostly to 5-12 year old boys, the [[Marvel Adventures]] comics have a pretty decently-sized internet fanbase of mostly adults. This can be attributed almost entirely to the fact that the comics are both A) excellently written, and B) ''Fun''.
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* Most shows [[Girl Show Ghetto|aimed for tween girls]] can sometimes be this towards boys. Shows like ''[[Lizzie McGuire]]'', ''[[iCarly]]'', ''[[Sonny With a Chance]]'', ''[[Victorious]]'', ''[[Shake It Up]]'', etc., would sometimes be watched by boys either because they like/have a crush on the lead/supporting girls in the show, to hear them sing, to enjoy their antics, or all of them.
** Many shows aimed for kids or tweens also have large college-aged audiences. ''[[SpongeBob SquarePants]]'', ''[[Fairly Oddparents]]'', and ''[[iCarly]]'' are all good examples of this.
* The idea of the Sci-Fi Channel (or SyFy now) having a mostly young male demographic is increasingly fallacious, which the execs seem to have some difficulty recognizing; when confronted with the fact that many of their viewers are women, David Howe [https://web.archive.org/web/20090322202401/http://scifiwire.com/2009/03/sci-fi-president-dave-how.php acknowledged that] "almost half of our audience is women, thanks to shows such as ''Ghost Hunters'' that attract more women than men", completely ignoring the fact that many of their scripted shows (''[[Farscape]]'', ''[[The Invisible Man (TV series)|The Invisible Man]]'', the various [[Stargate Verse|Stargates]], ''[[Battlestar Galactica (2004 TV series)|Battlestar Galactica]]'', etc.) had/have significant (if not overwhelmingly, or at least more involved in online fandom) female audiences.
* [[German TV Stations|Kika, a German kid channel]], has a mascot called Bernd das Brot (Bernd the Bread). The pessimistic bread became a cult favorite with young adults and teens in Germany. Kika started airing a looped program with Bernd instead of static after 9 P.M, attracting many insomniac young viewers.
* Teen shows with prominent gay or lesbian characters, like ''[[Pretty Little Liars]]'' or ''[[Greek]]'', often find themselves with significant ''adult'' followings in [[Fan Yay|the LGBT community]].
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== Western Animation ==
* [[Cartoon Network]] is all about the Periphery Demographic. Recognizing this was what led them to create [[Adult Swim]] in 2001. Most Cartoon Network originals have scored a healthy Periphery Demographic, but just to name a few:
** ''[[The Grim Adventures of Billy and& Mandy]]'' is known for its heavy amount of [[Dead Baby Comedy]] and [[Getting Crap Past the Radar]].
** ''[[Chowder]]'', nearly to the point of ''Billy and Mandy''.
** ''[[The Marvelous Misadventures of Flapjack]]'', to the point of Thurop joking about a [[Spin-Off]] simply titled "K'nuckles" for the specific purpose of including more "adult" jokes.
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* The [[DCAU|DC Animated Universe]] has some of the most intelligent, mature writing in Western Animation. So it's no surprise ''[[Batman: The Animated Series|Batman the Animated Series]]'', ''[[Superman: The Animated Series]]'', ''[[Batman Beyond]]'', ''[[Static Shock]]'' and ''[[Justice League (animation)|Justice League]]'' have huge teen and adult fanbases. Including the comic book geeks who watch these out of sheer obligation.
* The intended audience of ''[[Totally Spies!]]'' was intended to be elementary- and middle-school-age girls, but due to the show's [[Fetish Fuel|fetishistic overtones]], the show has found its primary audience among college-age males.
* Near the end of ''[[Bugs Bunny and Tweety]]''{{'}}s run on [[American Broadcasting Company|ABC]], the show was still receiving a respectable total number of viewers, mainly outside the 2-11 audience. It was only cancelled because their contract ran up, and ABC by then switched to [[One Saturday Morning|an all-Disney lineup]].
* Lots of people love ''[[Kim Possible]]'', many of them parents themselves.
** This is evidenced by its strong showing on fan-themed sites such as [[Fanfiction.net]] where, as of October 2010, it registered over 7,000 posted stories, one of the largest listings in the Cartoon category. (A good proportion of them being [[Les Yay]] [[Slash Fic]]s. And the writers are well aware of the popularity of these pairings.)
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** It's a show for preteens and kids, on networks solely for kids and it gets an episode that parodies various [[Comedy Central]](!) shows. Especially notable is the ''[[South Park]]'' segment.
* This (and the fact it was not [[Merchandise-Driven]]) was what killed ''[[Adventures of the Galaxy Rangers]]''. Gaylord (one of the production companies) wanted to attract the 7-12 year old demographic, but the show's more mature tone and [[Character Development]] attracted an audience of teenagers and young adults - [[Merchandise-Driven|not the type who would beg parents for toys]]. Mix this with [[Germans Love David Hasselhoff]] (the series did better in Latin America, the UK, and Germany) and Gaylord wasn't going to touch the idea of a second season.
* Many a ''[[Adventures of the Galaxy Rangers|Galaxy Rangers]]'' fan (then in their 20's20s and 30's30s) were also taping ''[[Jonny Quest: The Real Adventures]]'' for many of the same reasons they dug ''GR''.
* ''[[Animaniacs]]'' intentionally invoked this trope; it was marketed to kids, but was also intended for adults, with [[Getting Crap Past the Radar]] and old pop culture references in nearly every episode. Yet, it had enough [[Slapstick]] and [[Toilet Humor]] alongside the [[Parental Bonus]] to keep the kiddies entertained, which is probably ''part'' of the reason it outlived many similar shows.
** Same with ''[[Tiny Toon Adventures]]'', which has a huge fanbase of both younger and older fans, and lasted about the same as Animaniacs did.
** ''[[Pinky and The Brain]]'' is pretty much an inversion, especially when they got their own [[Spin-Off]] on Sunday evenings. ''[[Animaniacs]]'' for all its '''brilliant''' [[Getting Crap Past the Radar|adult humor]] and [[Parent Service]] still had ''lots'' of slapstick and anvils dropping on people in every episode. And yes, Pinky's idiocy, catchphrases, and the show's occasional physical violence (against Pinky, usually) was there to keep the kids entertained. But practically everything the Brain said ([[Maurice LaMarche|as well as the fact that the voice actor is doing]] [[Orson Welles]]), ''and'' the pop culture references, ''and'' the often ''very'' scathing political and social commentary of the show, AND even the occasional [[Take That]] at the younger viewers, all possibly leads one to believe that the show was really a program for parents that kids would watch and not get 90% of what was going on (making the kids the Periphery Demographic). And even in Pinky's case, the "Are You Pondering What I'm Pondering?" exchanges eventually got extremely out of a child's comprehension. I for one wonder if the failed ''[[Pinky, Elmyra and& Thethe Brain]]'' spin-off was green-lit because [[Executive Meddling|some executive wanted to increase the kid viewership to a very smart, adult program by severely curtailing the adult appeal in favor of getting more young children watching the program]].
* ''[[Veggie Tales]]'' has fans who are neither children nor religious. The copious cultural-reference [[Parental Bonus]]es probably help.
* ''Little Howard's Big Question'' is an example of this, possibly due to "Big Howard" Howard Read being a rather excellent "grown up" stand-up comedian.
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* Male homosexual pornography is popular among heterosexual women.
** Not surprising, as lesbian pornography is [[Girl-On-Girl Is Hot|popular among heterosexual men]].
* Women (and to an extent men) with small feet are suggested to shop for shoes at the children's department as some kids' shoes do come in youth's and adult's sizes (around EU 33-39) but are much cheaper than comparable adult shoes, for as long as the designs don't look too infantile of course. One woman [https://www.amazon.com/SEELEY-HEEL-MARY-JANE-Buckle/product-reviews/B001KQZA3U?pageNumber=2 left a review] on an Amazon page for Nina's "Seeley" [[Buster Brown|Mary Janes]] for girls, stating that they were "just right" for her as an adult and would consider buying another pair.
** Conversely, it is said that larger-sized ladies' shoes were also made for cross-dressers and the LGBTQ+ community in mind, as some gay/transgender people have large feet which basically made it a pain for them to shop for heels or flats. For women with unusually large feet who are turned off by most fashion lines who don't carry larger sizes, this can be a blessing.
 
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