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It should be noted that Rousseau did not philosophize that humans in their natural state were actually "good", but rather humans who are without a social contract have no morality/concept of good and evil and as such, will act in their own self interest but cannot do so maliciously.
This Trope can often be used as evidence against the idea that [[Hobbes Was Right]] while supporting those that claim [[Machiavelli Was Wrong]]. Compare [[Humans Are Good]]. Contrast [[Hobbes Was Right]].
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* As revealed in the NG+, almost all of the conflicts in ''[[NieR]]'' are a result of tragic misunderstandings, with several foes just having been trying to protect themselves/loved ones. In fact, the [[Big Bad]] who {{spoiler|kidnapped your daughter/sister?}} He was just trying to {{spoiler|save his. And was responsible for keeping the remnants of humanity sane.}}
* ''[[Hazbin Hotel]]''; Charlie truly seems to believe that, at least with humans, nobody is truly born evil and no sinner is truly beyond redemption. Unfortunately, trying to convince her contemporaries - the rulers of Hell - usually fall on deaf ears, given the Machiavellian outlook that most of them have.▼
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*** And given his [[The Dark Knight|other]] appearances that may be the point.
* ''[[The Batman]]'', however, even applies this Trope to the Joker. In the episode "Strange Minds", Batman finds one lucid man in the insane nightmare that is the Joker's mind, a small remnant of what he was before and showing that even the Joker was not born evil. The scene does, however, seem eerily similar to the guy he claimed to have been in the origin story from ''[[The Killing Joke]]''.
▲* ''[[Hazbin Hotel]]''; Charlie truly seems to believe that, at least with humans, nobody is truly born evil and no sinner is truly beyond redemption. Unfortunately, trying to convince her contemporaries - the rulers of Hell - usually fall on deaf ears, given the Machiavellian outlook that most of them have.
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[[Category:Idealism Tropes]]
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