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* [[Accidental Innuendo]]: So, in ''Platinum'', you get a villa. You can buy furniture for it. When you mix records, sometimes your friends will find a TV program that is examining furniture you have. Sometimes they say that you have a "nice rack".
* [[Alternate Character Interpretation]]: Is [[Big Bad|Cyrus]] [[Complete Monster|evil and twisted beyond redemption]] or is he [[Woobie, Destroyer of Worlds|a tortured soul who just needs serious therapy?]]
* [[And the Fandom Rejoiced]]: asideAside from what makes the games divisive (although not even nearly as much as ''[[Pokémon Ruby and Sapphire]]'' four years before), most of their flaws are foiled by the introduction of online play, an element first implemented with the Sinnoh-based games. Although online battles weren't implemented in the desired "versus anyone" way until ''[[Pokémon Black and White]]'', the addition of online trades made up for it.
* [[Base Breaker]]: Barry is either [[Adorkable]] and a worthy rival or annoying and not as [[Badass]] as [[Pokémon Red and Blue|Blue]] and [[Pokémon Gold and Silver|Silver]].
** Can't forget about Cyrus, now, can we? He's either a [[Woobie, Destroyer of Worlds]], an [[Omnicidal Maniac]] too far gone over the [[Moral Event Horizon]] , or perhaps even both.
** Garchomp. You either love it for being an Uber [[Badass]] dragon, or hate it for being one of the biggest [[Game Breaker|Game Breakers]] in the franchise.
** Lucario. Depending on who you ask, it's either a badass cool looking Pokémon that's useful in battle, or a bland piece of furbait that was forced in marketing campaigns.
* [[Breather Boss]]: Candice, Volkner and Aaron.
* [[Breather Boss]]: Candice and Volkner serve as this among the Gym Leaders, as they come before and after the ludicrously tough final battle with Cyrus. In the Elite Four, Aaron and Bertha start off as easy while the difficulty really begins to pick up at Flint, then goes skyrocketing into the great beyond come Cynthia.
* [[Crowning Moment of Funny]]: "Ensure the bed is unoccupied before getting into it." And you can find a Pokédoll in one of the beds.
* [[Crowning Music of Awesome]]: Cyrus and Cynthia's battle themes. Also the Game corner music and the Battle Arcade music. And, as usual, the Legendary Pokémon battle themes, but ''especially'' Giratina's Platinum music.
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* [[Draco in Leather Pants]]: Cyrus. The fangirls have latched onto him and won't let go, both in and out of game.
** Game Freak themselves seemed to want the players to feel sorry for him by adding his grandfather to Platinum and telling us about his sad, oppressive past. Of course, not too much, since we still want to beat him and put a stop to his plans...
* [[Genius Bonus]]: Empoleon is the same height as Napoleon Bonaparte (Care to guess what Empoleon's name was based off of?).
** In Japan, Empoleon is known as "Emperte", so the theme is the same, except just using Bonaparte's ''last'' name instead.
* [[Ensemble Darkhorse]]: Looker. Also Lucario, thanks to its appearance in the eighth movie and (later) ''[[Super Smash Bros]] Brawl''. The fact that it performs quite well in competitive battling also helps.
** Riley counts because he's a [[Bishounen|pretty boy]] with [[You Gotta Have Blue Hair|blue hair]] and a [[Badass Longcoat|trenchcoat.]] Just see how much fanart he gets compared to the other trainers you end up teaming up with.
** Gliscor became a staple in competitive teams this generation thanks to it's useful typing and solid defensive stats. It's badass design also helps a lot.
** Despite being two common Pokémon that can be obtained pretty damn early, both the Shinx and Starly lines are very popular Pokémon that you tend to see on many people's in-game teams. The Starly line becomes ''beastly'' upon evolution, as Staravia gets the Intimidate ability and Staraptor learns ludicrously powerful moves like Close Combat and Brave Bird. Shinx isn't ''quite'' as good, but still able to hold it's own in fights, and is very popular design wise for being adorable, while it's final evolution Luxray gets love for looking [[Badass.]]
* [[Evil Is Cool]]: Cyrus may have be a lost cause, but that didn't change the fact that he was badass.
* [[Evil Is Sexy]]: Pretty much all the Team Galactic members (with the exception of Charon) are really hot. Cyrus is an unusual case because he isn't ''especially'' good-looking, yet he still manages to be very attractive in other ways.
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* [[Game Breaking Bug]]: Being just slightly better than Farfetch'd, Chatot is not a powerhouse in the battlefield. However, the cry changing properties of Chatter can actually break the game due to glitches, and therefore it is banned from use in Random Wifi.
** That, and probably the fact that some people would use it to scream obscenities at their opponents.
* [[Genius Bonus]]: Empoleon is the same height as Napoleon Bonaparte (Care to guess what Empoleon's name was based off of?).
** In Japan, Empoleon is known as "Emperte", so the theme is the same, except just using Bonaparte's ''last'' name instead.
* [[Ho Yay]]: Volkner/Flint and Male!PC/Rival.
* [[Internet Backdraft]]: The subject of Stealth Rock seems to be getting a bit of this. It doesn't help now that it's really easy to get in HeartGold and SoulSilver.
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* [[Memetic Sex God]]: Cynthia. Also, surprisingly enough, Cyrus!
* [[Moral Event Horizon]]: Cyrus' entire plan and the measures he takes to accomplish it. Charon's plan for Heatran probably would've also qualified had it actually gotten off the ground.
* [[Nightmare Fuel]]: In ''Platinum'' when Giratina screeches and launches itself at the screen., Especiallymainly scaryfor if you readcreating a lothell of Pokemona creepypasta,jump inscare whichthat loudone screecheswouldn't and the screen being coveredexpect in darkness is a commonPokémon theme.game!
** [[Hell Is That Noise|Giratina's cry]] in general is pretty creepy.
** ''Cyrus'' and his entire plan to create "a world without spirit."
** After defeating him for the last time, Cyrus switching from going on a screaming rant about his hatred for spirit before calming down and leaving with an ominous threat in Platinum in the blink of an eye is quite spine-chilling to say the least. The fact that he's been broken ''this'' badly by his life-experiences and beliefs is both pitiable and slightly horrifying.
* [[Padding]]: The initial pair (fixed in Platinum and HG/SS fixing it almost entirely) makes ''everything'' take forever to play out, even with animations turned off.
** This was likely because Game Freak had obviously had problems programming on the DS. For instance, the glitches in the 3D overworld and the drastically lower framerate despite being on ''far more powerful hardware'' than the previous titles!
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* [[Tear Jerker]]: Barry's [[Heroic BSOD]] after failing to save Uxie from being kidnapped. "I have to get tougher. It's not just about being the strongest trainer anymore..."
** Hearing Cyrus' past from his grandfather in Platinum. Especially considering [[Nietzsche Wannabe|what]] it's shaped him into.
* [[That One Boss]]: Cyrus is this in his final battle, but especially in Platinum. His Pokémon all have pretty great attacking stats, and his Houndoom, Gyarados, and Honchkrow in particular can be absolutely brutal thanks to their fantastic type coverage.
* [[That One Boss]]: Cyrus. Lucian (though not in Platinum).
** [[That One Boss|That One Miniboss]]: the unavoidable double battle near Veilstone City. They don't look like anything interesting from faraway -- just a Cool Trainer duo -- and people approach them like regular trainers, with switchgrinding and everything. And are murdered. Brutally. Good luck, especially if it's a Nuzlocke.
** The Double Team on the foggy route to Celestic Town can be quite a nasty surprise for those who don't see it coming. Their Raichu and Gyarados provide outstanding type coverage, and can easily wreck the unprepared.
** Champion Cynthia's Garchomp is a ''far'' straighter example of [[That One Boss]], as well as Cyrus's Weavile.
** Champion Cynthia is easily THE hardest champion in the series. Her team is full of Pokémon of various types with perfect IV's, and all are built to suit their role rather well. Her Garchomp in particular can sweep entire ''teams'' thanks to possessing fantastic stats, but the rest of her team don't let up either.
** Fantina, especially in Platinum where she's the third Gym Leader-- fully-evolved Mismagius included with no modifcations made to it's moveset whatsoever.
** Jupiter can be surprisingly hard despite being only the second commander. Her Skuntank is at a much lower level than it's supposed to be when it evolves, and comes rather early in the game. Thanks to it's Poison status affects, often-critical night Slashes, and surprising bulk, she can be a real bitch to take down.
** The Double Battle with her and Mars at Spear Pillar can be a real pain thanks to not only Barry's uncooperative AI, but the fact that he leads with a useless Munchlax which more or less leaves you stuck in a 6-vs-1 Double Battle with you on the losing side.
** Maylene's first two Pokémon are nothing special, but her Lucario is a ''monster'' thanks to great stats and type coverage.
* [[The Computer Is a Cheating Bastard]]: Commander Mars's impossible-at-that-level Purugly comes to mind. Also, is it just me or does Roark's Cranidos only ever use Pursuit if you're switching something out that turn?
* [[They Changed It, Now It Sucks]]: In the European Platinum versions, you can't play the slot machines in the game corner, instead you can gather some coins from them once a day. This also means the only way to get the Explosion TM without trading or cheating is to hope the attendant randomly decides to give you one.
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