Hitler Ate Sugar: Difference between revisions

We don't think mass murder is bad because [[Anti Role Model|Hitler, Stalin, or other bad people]] did them. We think those people are bad because they committed mass murder. In other words, ''this trope is backwards''. A thing being bad stands on its own as bad. It would be like...

 

'''Bob:''' Really? What was I thinking? I can't believe I was going to do something the Nazis did. }}

 

== Anime & Manga ==

* Parodied in one of many ''[[Pokémon (anime)|Pokémon]]'' [[Abridged Series]].

 

 

* Judge Death in [[Judge Dredd]]'s universe has the logically extreme example. It runs something like "Crime is bad. You know who commits crime? People that are alive!" Therefore, "[[Catch Phrase|The Crime isss Life, the Sssentence isss DEATH!!]]"

* Averted in ''[[Watchmen]]'', where Rorschach uses the correct logic associated with this trope:

'''Rorschach''': Hitler was vegetarian. }}

* In ''[[Batman]]: Fortunate Son''. it is retconned that Bruce's parents told him to stop listening to rock and roll on the night that they were killed. Therefore, he comes to the conclusion that rock and roll is evil! Or something like that.

* Used in [[Alfred Hitchcock]]'s ''[[Rope]]'' in the argument between David's father and Brandon on the subject of whether "superior" people should have the right to kill inferior ones.

* In ''[[The King Of Comedy]]''

'''Jerry Langford:''' So did Hitler. }}

* Inverted in ''[[Downfall (film)|Downfall]]'', where the first scene shows Hitler being kind and forgiving to a flustered job applicant. The director was obviously trying to make the point that no one can be evil 24-7, but the usual suspects went nuts, claiming the film was trying to whitewash Hitler. They also failed to notice that Hitler was being kind because the secretary came from a region of Germany he was fond of, demonstrating how he had little interest in people's actual competence compared to their racial purity or national heritage.

*** Showing a clip of [[Glenn Beck]] using it himself, not as a parody: since the Nazis and Communist both used "social justice" as a leitmotif, everyone asking for it is either of them (or maybe [[Commie Nazis|both]]).

** From another of his [[Glenn Beck]] segments:

** Another time was when a mention was made to Glenn Beck connecting the word "empathy" which was what [[Barack Obama]] said America needed more of (or something like that) to Hitler. As [[Lewis Black]] said, he'd just connected one of the most positive words in the English language to Hitler and that Glenn Beck had "Nazi Tourettes."

** And in what may be his final Glenn Beck riff, on 4/7/2011, Jon Stewart managed to link the announced cancellation of Glenn Beck's show on Fox News to the apocalypse predicted by the Mayans in 2012. "Do we want to live in an America where what we watch is determined by a shadowy mix-and-match collective of so-called 'Nielsen Families'? You know who else had a family that anyone could join? Charles Manson."

** Jon brought the author of "Liberal Fascism" (Jonah Goldberg) onto his show and asked him to explain why organic foods are fascist. The author's response? Hitler made his troops eat organic foods (which aren't even "liberal" in the traditional sense, either. Goldberg apparently got "left-wing" confused with "alternative lifestyle").

* ''John Safran vs God'', the titular presenter (who is Jewish) mentions an anecdote from his youth. He was a big fan of the Beastie Boys and to emulate them, got a big Volkswagen logo pendant. This led to his mother ranting about how he was showing support for a product of [[Nazi Germany]].

* ''[[The Young Ones]]'' but ever so slightly inverted:

'''Rick:''' Yes, and nor did Adolf Hitler. }}

* ''[[Saturday Night Live]]'' had a parody commercial for a sneaker company where they showed members of the Heaven's Gate suicide cult wearing Nike sneakers, with the implication that if a suicide cult wears them they must be evil.

* From ''[[Dexter]]'':

** On Dexter's advice about Cody's school assignment:

** On Agent Lundy's walking style:

* Inverted on ''[[Mad Men]]''. Bert Cooper argues that Roger should stop smoking because it's a sign of weakness, claiming that when Hitler met with [[Neville Chamberlain|Chamberlain]] in Munich, he made sure it was in an old non-smoking building so that after a few hours Chamberlain would have agreed to anything to get out of there. Roger replies, "All I can get from that story is that Hitler didn't smoke, and I do."

* An episode of ''[[MASH]]'' sees Hawkeye yelling at a soldier whose deep guilt over a lack of bravery on the battlefield has given him psychological paralysis, on the theory that if the soldier doesn't overcome his guilt now, he never will. When Trapper asks afterward if it was rough, Hawkeye says, "Did you know Hitler and I have the same answering service?"

* On ''[[So Random]]'', in one skit, in a school presidential debate, Layla points out that she looks good in hats, and Mark responds "You know who else said they looked good in hats? Atilla the Hun".

* ''[[QI]]'' discussed the trope at one point, along with [[Godwin's Law]]. Stephen Fry is of the opinion that anybody who uses this trope immediately loses whatever argument they were having.

 

 

== Radio ==

* There's a ''That [[Mitchell and Webb]] Sound'' sketch about this sort of thing. There's a debate about killing pizza-flyer delivery guys and one of them reduces all the other's responses to comparisons with Hitler, and the other constantly compares his opponent to [[Josef Stalin|Stalin]]. Which culminates in the exchange:

"You ''are'' Hitler". }}

 

== Web Animation ==

* In the comedic flash parody ''[[The Matrix]] Has You'', Neo gives a lecture on car safety, specifically to buckle up, and points out that both Agent Smith and Hitler don't wear seat belts.

 

 

* In a parody of anti-drug [[PSA|PSAs]], a ''[[Loserz]]'' strip demonstrates the evils of pot smoking, finishing off with the assertion that Hitler regularly had a breakfast joint with none other than [[Satan]]. Just to drive the point home, the following strip is an equally absurd [[PSA]] ''defending'' marijuana, ending with the statement that Jesus smoked pot, so it was obviously good.

* ''[[Questionable Content]]'' [http://questionablecontent.net/view.php?comic=1020\] came up with the counter to [[Godwin's Law]] after Pintsize attempted to invoke [[Hitler Ate Sugar]]:

'''Hannelore''': Well you know who knew more Latin than the Nazis? [[Indiana Jones]]. }}

* Not actually involving Hitler but in one ''[[Elf Only Inn]]'' strip, [[Cloudcuckoolander|Goku]] wants to fight Woot because the latter [[Unexplained Recovery|ate Goku's head]] Woot uses a similar argument to convince Goku that he doesn't have a mouth.

'''Goku''': Oh? Of course not. Sorry. }}

* ''[[User Friendly]]'' did a parody on [[Godwin's Law]] [http://ars.userfriendly.org/cartoons/?id=20070217 here].

* [http://ozyandmillie.org/2005/12/16/ozy-and-millie-1566/ Millie] in ''[[Ozy and Millie]]'' is fond of this.

* From ''[http://www.apenotmonkey.com/2009/11/20/logical-fallacies-reductio-ad-hitlerum/ Ape, Not Monkey]''

* Referenced in the [http://positivity.thecomicseries.com/comics/28/ "That Certain Card"] strip of ''[[Positivity]]'':

'''#2:''' You know who else had hair? ''Hitler''! }}

 

** "If you're getting tired of all this bacon there's something wrong with your brain! You know who else didn't like too much bacon? Hitler. You don't want to be Hitler, do you? No. He's got stupid hair.

* Use and inverted in [[That Guy With The Glasses]]' 2-year anniversary special, ''[[Kickassia]]''. When [[Atop the Fourth Wall|Linkara]] expresses doubts about the invasion, [[The Nostalgia Critic]] says (paraphrased): "That's quitter talk. You know who else was a quitter? The Nazis! Are you a Nazi, Linkara? ARE YOU?!" Then he proceeds to deliver a [[Rousing Speech]]...about the Nazis. The whole thing ends with this exchange:

'''Team TGWTG:''' '''''YEAH!!''''' }}

* Lampshaded and parodied in the D&D PHB PSAs by [[Creative Juices 7]] in D&Debate #6 (PSA #39), when Mialee discovers that she's being sued for his mistreatment of Displacer Beasts:

'''Mialee:''' Um, I ... yeah, um, Hitler did a lot of bad stuff, but I'm pretty sure you're thinking of Mr. Burns from '[[The Simpsons (animation)|The Simpsons]]'.<br />

'''Lilith:''' ''(angry glare)''<br />

* [http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fHiwBJZTexo Children's Daycare is Evil] (no longer subtitled, but you get the gist from the keywords and tone)

* Used for comedic effect in [[Coldmirror]]'s [[Gag Dub]] "Harry Potter und der Plastikpokal":

'''The Wesley twins:''' Hitler ate sugar! }}

* An episode of "Hope Is Emo" had the main character disapprove of babies because Hitler was a baby.

* Parodied in ''[[The Agony Booth]]'' [http://www.agonybooth.com/movies/Tron_Legacy_2010.aspx review] of ''[[Tron: Legacy]]''.

 

 

== Western Animation ==

* Trope name comes from ''[[Daria]]'', episode "Pinch Sitter", with this little exchange from two kids repeating stuff their parents told them about eating sweets.

'''Tad:''' ''Hitler ate sugar.'' }}

* ''[[South Park]]'', "Weight Gain 4000":

'''Wendy:''' ''[as she passes by]'' Hitler was famous, too. }}

* ''[[King of the Hill]]'':

** Luann finally moves out, but her new roommates are stereotypical college students who invoke [[Godwin's Law]] whenever anyone attempts to assert any sort of authority over them. For example, when she asks them not to smoke in the house:

** This didn't pan out when the male made the same accusation against Grandpa Cotton, a grizzled [[World War II]] veteran:

* ''[[The Simpsons]]'':

** Inverted when Sideshow Bob, up for parole, is questioned about his tattoo reading "Die Bart, Die." He explains that it is [[Gratuitous German|German for "The Bart, The"]]. The parole board is convinced, someone reasoning "[[Insane Troll Logic|No one who speaks German could be an evil man]]."

* Buck Rockgut from ''[[The Penguins of Madagascar]]'' uses this [[Up to Eleven]].

"Read any good books lately? Read? Red? THE RED SQUIRREL!!!" }}

* ''[[Family Guy]]'': Dialogue from a PSA made to make weed illegal again in Quahog

''' German Soldiers:''' ''(in Carter's voice)'' Yeah, alright! Let's go to France! }}

 

* A strange variant of this trope occurred in Jaslo, Poland in July 2009. [http://www.spiegel.de/international/europe/0,1518,634758,00.html An oak tree became the target of a political movement to get it felled once it was found out that Hitler planted it in celebration of his 53rd birthday]. Though really, that isn't saying all trees are bad... just the specific Hitler Tree.

* Anti-smoking policies are often denounced as Nazi-ist, as the Nazis banned things. Adolf Hitler did indeed disapprove of smoking, and hoped that in his lifetime every cigarette package in Europe would be labeled with a warning message (an idea that has since then become widespread). He also never drank alcohol, citing its effects on the poor families in Austria. Yet, cigarette corporations have also been accused of fascism on at least one occasion, for profiting on the ills of others (which doesn't really make sense, since fascists tend to distrust private corporations).

** As for 'pro-sex' folks discussing oppression, regimes that send gays to concentration camps or execute them ARE indeed comparable to the Nazis, unlike regimes that ban smoking in public buildings. That's not any more of an exaggeration than suggesting people who want to kill Jews are comparable to the Nazis.

** Some homophobic groups in America (including Pat Robertson) have used Ernst Roehm, a gay supporter of Hitler, to try to link homosexuality with Nazism. They overlook the fact that Hitler had him murdered.

* In an attempt to discredit [[Charles Darwin]] and evolution, evangelical minister Ray Comfort and actor Kirk Cameron added a special 150th anniversary "introduction" to ''On the Origin of Species'' that pointed out "[[Adolf Hitler]]'s undeniable connection with the theory", among other things. That's what happens when you let things fall into the public domain, we suppose. You can see it [http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oM0oBuhTLRI here].

* [http://www.huffingtonpost.com/alan-kaufman/google-books-and-kindles_b_380536.html This] hilarious/disturbing tirade against [[New Media Are Evil|Kindles and digital books]], in which the author essentially argues that the Kindle and Google Books are comparable with the Holocaust. Because the Nazis didn't like and burnt books, and the Kindle and Google Books ''replace'' books. Bonus points for the following statement, posted [[Godwin's Law|once commenters started calling him out]]:

* Bill Buford in ''Heat'' recounts a Tuscan butcher's defense of getting meat from Spain rather than selling local ''chianina'' beef: "I don't believe in the purity of races. You, evidently, believe in purity of races. So did Hitler."

* Euthanasia (giving people to right to choose to die if they have a terminal disease) has been condemned as evil because the Nazis used "euthanasia" as a euphemism for "killing people against their will."

* In fact, many of the men who actually defeated fascism, like Eisenhower and Patton, would be accused of fascism at some point.

* This one is often used as well:

'''Person One:''' Oh yeah, well you know who else hated communists? HITLER! }}

* [http://www.guardian.co.uk/environment/2010/jan/29/osama-bin-laden-climate-change Osama bin Laden supported the fight against climate change.] Cue Right-wing America asking 'What is the difference between bin Laden and Al Gore?'

** Franco is also an inversion. During the [[Cold War]], many ([[What the Hell, Hero?|including the US]]) were willing to overlook the part he played in the Axis, not to mention the Basque, Atheist, Leftist, Anarchist, and LGBT people that suffered under his regime, simply because [[Enemy Mine|he happened to oppose communism]].

* As cited [http://blogs.telegraph.co.uk/news/danielhannan/100012893/the-smear-campaign-against-our-euro-sceptic-allies-becomes-demented/ here], the ''Guardian'' recently produced an example that's pushing it even for this trope:

* Despite being somewhat common at one time, the name Adolph isn't used any longer and no one supports the thin-mustache look due to association with Hitler. What makes this especially tragic is that "Adolph" was a common ''Jewish'' name!

** Other words and names discredited by Nazism include "eugenics," "Aryan," "blitzkrieg" (sometimes), and otherwise innocuous phrases like "triumph of the will."