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== Marvel ==
* In ''[[Civil War (Comic Book)|Civil War]]: Frontline #11'', reporter Sally Floyd accuses [[Captain America]] of being out of touch with the "real America" because he's focused on moral values such as truth, justice, and freedom, as opposed to the pop-cultural shallowness that she and all the "average Americans" she knows focus on, such as ''[[American Idol]]'', [[My SpaceMyspace]], and [[YouTube]]. That concentrated essence of outspoken stupidity instantly cemented Sally Floyd's status as the [[Too Dumb to Live|Stupidest Person In Comics]].
** It's not just that Sally Floyd is an incredible jackass. It's clear from the writing, particularly from the way that a man famous for speeches about doing the right thing no matter what ''bows his head and accepts this,'' that ''we're supposed to be on her side''. According to the writers, [[My SpaceMyspace]], [[YouTube]] and [[American Idol]] ''are'' more important to Americans than truth, justice, freedom, and democracy. Even if they're right, it feels wrong.
*** Thankfully, other Marvel comics have started to criticize this. For instance, Floyd is ridiculed for it in the Patriot issue of a recent ''Young Avengers'' mini-series. [[Moon Knight]] also saved her from some street thugs in his own comic, and then stated that if he had known who she was, he wouldn't have bothered to help her.
** [http://i150.photobucket.com/albums/s102/Linkara/AT4W/Capsright.jpg Cap's response] to this is priceless. Sadly, it's just a [[Fan Work|Photoshop]].
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{{quote|"My ward Speedy is... a junkie!"}}
*** Being shocked that your foster son is taking drugs is not that surprising. Being shocked that your foster daughter has HIV when ''she used to be a street prostitute'', and clearly not understanding how this could possibly be...is a different level of ignorance.
** ''Outsiders #17-19'', in which the Outsiders approach real-life hero and [[Special Guest|Very Special Guest Star]] [[AmericasAmerica's Most Wanted|John Walsh]] for help in tracking down the leader of a child slavery ring. It doesn't speak well of the team that when their leader, a Batman-trained detective, is unable to find any leads, his next plan of attack is, "Let's get that guy on TV to help us!"
*** Walsh is featured prominently on the cover (it features his photo instead of artwork, a rarity in comics), and DC hyped the guest appearance as a way to attract new readers who don't typically read comics...but Walsh doesn't show up until THE VERY LAST PANEL OF THE ISSUE. All those new readers must have felt gypped.
** ''Green Arrow/Black Canary #14'': Winnick's farewell issue consisted of wrapping up the 'Connor was kidnapped' arc by turning Connor Hawke, an interesting and unique character, into a generic street-level brawler with a healing factor. He threw in some amnesia so that Connor would lose all of his former personality ''and'' his fighting skills; only the healing factor kept Connor from dying of bullet wounds while trying to stop four generic drug dealers in an alley. Connor was once one of the four best martial artists in [[The DCU]]; he is now inferior to ''Misfit''. As an added bonus, Winnick threw in a [[Take That]] from Amnesiac Connor about how 'ridiculous' the idea of a Buddhist monk who fought crime was in the first place, and capped this entire pile of crap off with Black Canary squealing about Connor's story having a 'happy ending'. Yes, because having your entire life and personality stripped away from you and being reduced to a shell of your former self is so happy. It's bad enough that Dinah's become a complete [[Faux Action Girl]] in this run; did she have to become [[Too Dumb to Live]] as well?
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* The Mary Marvel plot in ''[[Countdown to Final Crisis]].'' She wakes up from a coma with no powers; okay. She ends up getting powers from Black Adam (who later manifests the same powers again somehow). Okay. She wanders the entire multiverse for a while struggling to deal with this 'cursed' power rushing to her head, gets tempted by Eclipso, ultimately turns back to the side of good, and is rewarded by the gods. Okay. So far so good. {{spoiler|Then Darkseid shows up in her living room and says, "Hey, want to help me kill innocents to get your evil powers back?" She immediately agrees. In about one page, with zero [[Foreshadowing]].}} It's the absolute worst turn to the dark side (no pun intended) since [[Star Wars|Anakin.]]
** It gets even better than that. At the end of Final Crisis, she finally snaps out of the mind control spell or whatever Darkseid had her in and then swears "never again". Less then a month later, she's hanging out with ''Black Adam''.
*** And it ''still'' gets better than that. In the newest issues of [[Justice Society of America]], Mary Marvel helps Black Adam and Isis (yes, the [[Friend to All Living Things|one]] from [[Fifty Two|52]]) take down Billy as Guardian of the Rock of Eternity and corrupt Billy with... evil magic? It wasn't ''supposed'' to be [[Bad Powers, Bad People]], but Billy does turn evil. Isis goes to Kahndaq, where people still praise her, and starts turning people into sand or soil or whatever and states her intent to do that to all of humanity. The wizard [[Shazam]] is revived to stop all this by [[The Flash|Jay Garrick]] and the spirit of Billy and Mary's father. Shazam takes all the Marvel powers away from everyone, turns Teth Adam and Adrianna into statues, exiles Billy and Mary, and announces he's going after Freddy Freeman (who was nowhere near when all this was happening). It might make sense later, but '''seriously,''' what the hell!?
* ''[[Countdown to Final Crisis|Countdown]]'' isn't compatible with ''Final Crisis''; the real "official" lead-ups are ''52'', ''Seven Soldiers'', and the ''"Dark Side Club"'' issues of several other books. That makes ''Countdown'' more Wallbangering than should be possible, given what it claims to be. Two cases in point:
## Mary Marvel turned evil in ''Final Crisis'' because she was possessed by Desaad, not by her own volition as seen in "Countdown."
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