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== Marvel ==
* In ''[[Civil War (Comic Book)|Civil War]]: Frontline #11'', reporter Sally Floyd accuses [[Captain America (comics)]] of being out of touch with the "real America" because he's focused on moral values such as truth, justice, and freedom, as opposed to the pop-cultural shallowness that she and all the "average Americans" she knows focus on, such as ''[[American Idol]]'', [[Myspace]], and [[YouTube]]. That concentrated essence of outspoken stupidity instantly cemented Sally Floyd's status as the [[Too Dumb to Live|Stupidest Person In Comics]].
** It's not just that Sally Floyd is an incredible jackass. It's clear from the writing, particularly from the way that a man famous for speeches about doing the right thing no matter what ''bows his head and accepts this,'' that ''we're supposed to be on her side''. According to the writers, [[Myspace]], [[YouTube]] and [[American Idol]] ''are'' more important to Americans than truth, justice, freedom, and democracy. Even if they're right, it feels wrong.
*** Thankfully, other Marvel comics have started to criticize this. For instance, Floyd is ridiculed for it in the Patriot issue of a recent ''Young Avengers'' mini-series. [[Moon Knight]] also saved her from some street thugs in his own comic, and then stated that if he had known who she was, he wouldn't have bothered to help her.
** [http://i150.photobucket.com/albums/s102/Linkara/AT4W/Capsright.jpg Cap's response] to this is priceless. Sadly, it's just a [[Fan Work|Photoshop]].
** ''World War Hulk: Frontline'' parodies this with ''Top 10 Reasons to Hate Sally Floyd''. #1 features her drunkenly kicking dirt onto Captain America's grave and asking him when was the last time he posted on [[YouTube]]. Also there was the time she dated Captain Rectitude, which is apparently "you don't want to know" territory.
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* There was a point in the Nineties where Mary Jane was ''killed off'' in a plane crash so that new stories about Swingin' Single Pete could be made. ''It did not work.'' MJ turned out to be not dead, and the whole mess was mercifully [[Canon Discontinuity|swept under the rug and forgotten.]] Of course, it seems [[Joe Quesada|certain people]] at Marvel didn't get the memo and decided to more or less [[One More Day|try it again, but without her death involved]]. ''It still did not work''.
* Another ''Spider-Man'' one: "Sins Past", where we find out that Gwen Stacy, in a moment of weakness, slept with Norman Osborn and got pregnant with twins; now the kids are back (with a [[Plot-Relevant Age-Up]]) and out to get Spider-Man. The original plan was that they were Peter's kids, but Quesada ruled that Pete was (or should be) too young to be a father. Unfortunately, ''this'' is still canon in the 616 Marvel Universe.
** To add insult to injury, Peter's reaction to learning this was ridiculous. He cried a bit, broke some furniture... and that's it. His only thoughts about kids are "They are all that's left of Gwen." Never mind that their father is his archenemy [[Complete Monster|who murdered his brother and his own child]]. And [[Brand New Day|later]] he keeps her photo in his room. So Peter still views Gwen as some kind of a saint when revelation like THIS should have shattered that image forever. That's a major [[Moral Dissonance]]. And, even though MJ hid this truth from him during their whole relationship, this never caused any problems later... If it had, we could've been spared that [[Deal with the Devil]] and its attendant baggage.
* After his Aunt May's wedding, Parker gets hammered and sleeps with his roommate Michelle (also drunk). Later they "reveal" that Michelle slipped Parker cider when he wasn't looking, so HIS inebriation was due to his own lack of experience being drunk.
** After Peter attends Aunt May's wedding, and starts drinking heavily when he sees Mary Jane, he wakes up in bed the next morning with Michele, his [[Tsundere]] roommate. Fair enough. He accidentally calls her "MJ". She ''throws him out of the house''. She later leaves cookies out, but padlocks the fridge so [[Complete Monster|Peter can't get any milk]]. The Chameleon later imitates Peter and sleeps with Michele, and she thinks they're now boyfriend and girlfriend. Peter doesn't tell her what happened, until she ticks him off by forcing a curfew on him. She doesn't believe him, and punches him. When Peter's coworker ticks her off, she draws a line down the apartment, and destroys ''any'' of Peter's things on "her" side. At this point, the character is basically >90% [[Yandere (disambiguation)]], by volume.
* As if ''[[One More Day]]'' wasn't bad enough, Quesada has introduced Carlie Cooper, a new woman being pushed as Peter Parker's soul-mate, to the point where even MJ is telling him to be with her. Aside from being such a blatant [[Creator's Pet]] who looks more like [[King of the Hill|Peggy Hill]] than anyone you'd want to date, there's two major problems with this: Carlie is supposed to be a stand-in for Joe Quesada's daughter to the point of being named after her...and Joe is using Peter as a stand-in for himself to the point of his looking like Joe in recent issues. It may not be intentional, but it's still [[Squick]].
** The amount of [[Creator's Pet]] shilling going on with Carlie Cooper is bad enough, but the fact that their main strategies for trying to get fans to accept her as Peter's new girlfriend consist of that, and [[Derailing Love Interests|derailing every other]] [[Character Derailment|character]] to do so. And of course, like all of Quesada's finest work, most of it is targeted at Mary-Jane. Although they've really taken the cake as of recent when they even went so far as to suggest [http://i53.tinypic.com/a10b47.jpg Mary-Jane only loved Peter because he was Spider-Man], from ''PETER'S OWN MOUTH''... Yeah, no she didn't. Otherwise she wouldn't have rejected Peter's marriage proposals twice, or refused dating him seriously for so long, when canonically she knew he was Spider-Man since the night Uncle Ben was killed. And in the retconned history presented in ''One Moment in Time'' she even refuses to marry him outright ''because he was Spider-Man''. It doesn't even make sense in the newer continuity presented! Linkara went through a pretty damn big rant when ''JLA: Act of God'' suggested Lois only loved and married Clark for Superman. Can anyone ''imagine'' the rant he would go through if he ever reviewed the storyline where ''this'' was brought up?
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*** Another big 'Carlie is great' moment of hackery would be one of the following issues after Spider-Island. Just when people were thinking that the writers had realized she was a horrible character and Peter and MJ were going to be finally reunited, somewhat evidensed by the fact that Joe Quesada had been replaced as EIC nearly a year ago and his current whereabouts unknown, with his name no longer popping up much, They decide to give one more fuck you to Carlie's detractors. In a moment of total Suefication, Carlie is the only person in the New York police department, or at least of the precint she works at, who notices that the 'obvious accidental suicide victim' was too far from any great height to have caused his own death. Her captain, for some reason, rights it off as nonsense and ignores the obvious, until she points out why, which to anyone capable of becoming a police chief would have been obvious. To make her look like [[The Woobie]], the chief then kicks her off the case for making him look stupid, forcing her to do the case herself when the chief closes it, and absolutely no one points it out. Its an utter insult to every real life police officer to say they could ever possibly be that incompetant to both miss obvious clues and to close a case just to spite one person. Its insulting to the readers to believe they would believe something would ever happen and that they would really have any sympathy for her in an obviously [[Idiot Plot]] set up. And lastly, its almost a spit in the face to think any human being would ever be such a douche to do something like that, regardless of their position of power. This officially laments Carlie as the [[Creator's Pet]]. This is the moment that makes you realize that she's on par with Wesley Crusher.
* If Chuck Austen is loathed for any one thing (though there are many), then it's the storyline known as "The Draco" from his run on ''[[X-Men (Comic Book)|Uncanny X-Men]]''. Here's a summary: it turns out Nightcrawler is the son of a demon named Azazel. No, wait, Azazel's just an immortal mutant who was banished to an alternate dimension, and it turns out that the angels and demons of Biblical myth were [[Beethoven Was an Alien Spy|all early mutants]]. Oh, and Archangel's one of them, so his blood burns Nightcrawler. Until then, Nightcrawler was a devout Catholic, and his demonic looks were supposed to be ''ironic''.
** The entire plot of the Draco involved Kurt's devil-lookin' daddy teleporting out of Limbo to knock up women to sire him some teleporting young'uns that he can use to.... get out of Limbo? Yeah, you read that right.
** It turns out Nightcrawler's entire religious education and time as a priest was part of a brainwashing operation by an anti-mutant group that also hates the Catholic Church. They planned to get Nightcrawler installed as the Pope and then have his image inducer fail so he can be "revealed" as the Antichrist, while they simulate the Rapture using ''communion wafers that dissolve those who imbibe them''.
** From the same story: "Your power to detonate the air into superhot plasma, and, when pushed, to blow up people's brains from the inside, cannot affect me! I have stitched my eyes shut!" It's a paraphrase, but that's exactly what happened in-story. Luckily, Iceman then casually kills the villain in question by ''sucking out her body's moisture''.
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*** However, it didn't reach true wall-banging status until ''Civil War.''
* [[The Incredible Hulk|Red Hulk]] started as merely a powerful villain. Then he fought Thor. The fight ends up in space; then [[Fan Nickname|Rulk]] ''takes Thor's hammer and beats him up with it.'' Thor's hammer, by the way, is [[A Wizard Did It|enchanted]] so that nobody can lift it but Thor himself or a pure-hearted and worthy individual in a desperate situation. Obviously, [[Captain Obvious|Rulk is neither.]] Rulk says that he can bypass this because he is in zero gravity (which, considering he was between the Earth and the moon, is [[You Fail Physics Forever|objectively false]]). [[Fridge Logic|The hammer doesn't obey the laws of gravity for anything else, and its observable property of unliftable attraction to the ground would logically cause it to plummet to the planet's surface instead of fulfilling the directive of the enchantment]]. Even without the gleeful violation of [[Magic A Is Magic A]], this is when Rulk hit [[Villain Sue]] and never looked back. Note that, as the image on the [[Villain Sue]] page demonstrates, Rulk ''topped this'' in terms of Sue-ishness.
** Rulk will now be joining the Avengers...
* ''[[Daredevil]] #502'': Two protest leaders (of the same group that Bullseye blew up in ''Daredevil: The List'' #1) are acquitted of any wrong doing in the explosion. The presiding judge - portrayed as either corrupted by or emboldened by Norman Osborn - threw out the verdict and sent the men to prison.<br /><br />Let's repeat that: The judge ''threw out a "Not Guilty" verdict '''in a criminal trial.''' ''<br /><br />For those not familiar with the American justice system, this is patently illegal. Jeopardy ([[Jeopardy!|No, not that one]]) is attached the moment "Not Guilty" is read into the record. Throwing that out represents "Double Jeopardy" - being tried for the same crime twice - a clear and flagrant violation of the Fifth Amendment. It also violates the Seventh: the right to convict defendants in criminal trials is vested ''solely'' in juries (unless the defendant chooses to waive this right) -- judicial review can flip a 'guilty' verdict to 'not guilty' if there is suitable legal cause, but the reverse is '''absolutely forbidden'''. Any judge who even attempted something this stupid would be staring Impeachment in the face by next day's court. As ''[[Scans Daily]]'' poster toby wan kenobi put it:
{{quote|"I like how one guy becoming a vaguely-powerful government figure has resulted in IMMEDIATE TOTAL WIDESPREAD CORRUPTION."}}
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* In a Punisher/Eminem crossover comic we have Punisher vs. Eminem. In this corner, we have The Punisher: Marine Corps combat veteran with hundreds of confirmed kills; spec-ops trained; highly trained in numerous fighting styles and weapons; demolitions and tactical expert; in near-Olympic physical condition. Personally responsible for thousands, if not tens of thousands, of murders, more than any other non-powered Marvel character. Kills criminals on a daily basis. Is along with Nick Fury one of the only two non-powered soldiers in the MU to get into a fistfight with Captain America and lose only on points, instead of by KO. And in this corner over here, we have Eminem. He's a completely normal guy who doesn't even qualify as a Bad Ass Normal, and spends most of his time in a studio. Oh, and he hangs out with Fifty Cent. OK, then, this is going to be over quickly; someone get Em's next of kin on the phone and...what the '''hell'''? Eminem just pistol whipped the Punisher and is shooting him in the chest?! Eminem shouldn't be able to get the drop on a Marine and tactical expert with spec-ops training!
* For many fans, ''The Sentry: Fallen Sun'' has a story worse than even the [[Incredibly Lame Pun]] in the beginning. The story is that The Sentry, having been killed by Thor after giving in to his [[Super-Powered Evil Side]] and threatening the ''universe'' and possibly even killing his wife, is remembered positively at his funeral. Rogue of the X-Men runs off distraught since, apparently, the Sentry was the only one she could touch. It is revealed that she slept with him; this is discussed in ''a single panel'' between Johnny Storm (The Human Torch) and Cyclops. (For a full analysis of why this sucks, see [http://ragnell.blogspot.com/2010/05/forget-death-character-needs-to-be.html here.] The Thing admits that he hated the Sentry because he was a better man than he was for not killing the Wrecker, before he'd killed a group of schoolkids on a bus [[For the Evulz]], which is out of character for the Thing, the Sentry ,''and'' the Wrecker. (Remember the reason for this funeral.) [[Iron Man|Tony Stark]] talks about how he was nothing but a drunk before the Sentry came along. [[Daredevil]] talks about how he was ''a good counselor'' (LOLWUT?). Dr. Strange basically says that, for someone with the power of a million exploding suns, he taught him a lot about darkness. (No kidding.) They pay their last respects. Stark gives them beer ([[Idiot Ball|despite that being a drunk bit]]), and they disperse. All these events were conveniently [[Retcon|Retconned]] in and ''never shown.'' But the readers are supposed to empathize with the guy who nearly destroyed the world...
** Reed Richards then finds the last letter from his BFF the Sentry with his [[Robot Sidekick]] C.L.O.C., which implies that he may return. (This is why [[Marvel Comics]] should never do funeral storylines.) Honestly, the whole thing was nothing more to show how fabulous the Sentry was. We're told that the pivotal moments of the lives of the major Marvel heroes...is because of the Sentry, which he couldn't do without [[Retcon|Retcons]]. All we saw of him in life was his being agoraphobic and schizophrenic and being [[Achilles in His Tent]] when the shit hit the fan. At least Paul Jenkins clearly showed us what he was intended to be: a [[Gary Stu]], whose claim to greatness was [[Remember the New Guy?]] with a failed attempt of [[Too Good for This Sinful Earth]]...which makes less sense when you consider that he ''ripped Spider-Man villain Carnage in half'' and did the same to Ares after he went crazy. Even in death, some bullshit about the greatness that is the Sentry comes to light.
* In [[J. Michael Straczynski]]'s otherwise good ''Thor,'' when talking to his Asgardian guests, Doom said he "had no idea what a winkle was until he looked in up on [[Wikipedia]]". He ''was'' sweet-talking them, but come on! The guy is so arrogant that his whole grudge with [[Fantastic Four|Reed Richards]] stemmed from his inability to accept that he was wrong. Either he would pretend to know, or he would pretend that he didn't care.
* Doom has had a lot of [[Out of Character]] lines in recent years. One [[Out-of-Character Moment]] in Brian Bendis's ''Mighty Avengers'' is the page image for [[Character Derailment]].
** Not to mention the infamous 9/11 comic, which has him ''crying'' in response to a terrorist attack. Yeah, right. Given how many times he's tried to ''destroy'' parts of New York, folks found that this made no sense whatsoever.
*** Or as someone put it, if Doom had actually been offended by bin Laden's actions then you'd have known it from the part where he dumped bin Laden's smoking corpse on the front steps of the UN next week. The fact that he doesn't actually go after the terrorists -- and remember, Doom is a head of state, and commands an arsenal (if not troops) equal to any First World superpower -- implies that he just didn't care, making the tears even more unjustified.
* In the 1990s, Marvel decided to put Rogue in a romantic subplot with fellow French-speaking Southerner Gambit, which resulted in a major [[Character Derailment]] for Rogue to suit the "man of mystery" status of the Cajun. Firstly, he hinted that he might be immune to her absorption power, secondly when he was monologizing away from the others he had a deep, dark secret in his past (which later turned out that he had worked for Mr. Sinister and had been involved, albeit in a non-killing capacity, in the Mutant Massacre). Rogue got handed the [[Idiot Ball]], and so even though Gambit continually teased her about it, she always was too scared to put the immunity hypothesis to the test by simply touching him. Which was a complete break from how she had used her power before.<ref> Needless to say, while in the past there had been many situations when during a fight Rogue would absorb an (unconscious) teammate's power and memories, no such situations ever arose with Gambit. Convenient.</ref> Before Claremont left, she had often absorbed other people's powers and memories, sometimes even playfully, and experience showed that it usually did not cause great problems to her or the "donors". So in order to motivate her out-of-character hesitancy or phobia Marvel decided to [[Retcon|rewrite her origin]] by now declaring that Cody Robbins, the first person on whom she had (accidentally) used her power, never woke from his absorption-induced coma. Well, if that is the case and the permanent absorption of Ms. Marvel's memories that had plagued Rogue for so long, then it is understandable that she is hesitant to try touching Remy, right? Maybe, but now her entire behaviour before she met him makes sense no more. Had this happened, then Rogue must logically have concluded from the first time it was used that her absorption power always put the people she touched into a permanent coma, and thus she would not have kissed another boy shortly afterwards or her surrogate mother Mystique (both of these things happened in ''Classic X-Men'' back-up stories set in her pre-Brotherhood years).
* In [[Brand New Day]] J Jonah Jameson becomes an eager supporter of Norman Osborn hailing him as a real American hero. Despite the fact that several years earlier Osborn bought his newspaper from under him via threatening to kill his family.
* Recently, after almost a decade of fan demand, the original Hobgoblin returned in ''Amazing Spider-Man'' #648. Chilling, cunning, and sane, Hobgoblin was one of the most unique, interesting, and underutilized of the Goblins, and is in the [[Magnificent Bastard]] comics section. During his career, he had three times fooled Spider-Man with red herrings. Finally, in a case of [[Know When to Fold'Em]], he set up a patsy, the third red herring, to take the fall and die for him while he retired. It was ten years before he reappeared. Finally brought to justice, he spends at most a month comic-book-time in prison before manipulating ''Norman Osborn'' into breaking him out. He then retires to the Caribbean to live off of his illicit gains. Surely, his return is going to epic. Wrong. After a decade of anticipation, the Hobgoblin is killed by a Z-list ex-superhero gone crazy named Phil Urich and replaced by said ex-superhero. This was after making the Hobgoblin the Kingpin's, one of Hobgoblin's old enemies, b---h. They even have a line almost paraphrasing that. So first, they derail the Hobgoblin's characterization. Then they kill him off at the hands of a character nowhere near as skilled or powerful in a disrespectful manner without him putting up anything resembling a fight (I mean, if you're going to kill an awesome villain, it should be in awesome fashion) for nothing more than a cheap shock and what could possibly be a thinly-veiled [[Take That]] to fans demanding his return. They replace him with his killer, who when introduced had been written purposely as an incompetent hero who found himself way over his head, thus introducing yet another insane Goblin (how creative), as well as limiting future storylines with the original Hobgoblin. Why was killing Roderick Kingsley, the original Hobgoblin, necessary to make Urich the new Hobgoblin?! They could have easily made a Hobgoblin without resorting to offing the old one! Many fans have outright refused to believe that the Hobgoblin that was killed was Kingsley, preferring to assume that it was another stooge set up to take the fall, but seeing how the trend in his appearances, it will probably be yet another (third) decade before he returns.
** Even if he is Z-list, there are people who remember reading and enjoying the "Green Goblin" series that first introduced Phil Urich, and many others who became familiar with an older version of the character from reading ''[[Spider Girl]]''. In the latter, Phil is a good friend and mentor to May Parker, and it's difficult not to like the guy. So to turn him into an insane killer is even more of a [[Wall Banger]] for fans of Phil due to the enormous [[Character Derailment]].
* Avengers Prime: [[Captain America (comics)]], who was dating Sharon Carter at the time, who happens to be his primary love interest and has been on-and-off for over forty years, cheats on her by kissing an elf girl in one of the nine realms. He doesn't regret it right after, he doesn't feel guilty. One might get the feeling that [[Brian Michael Bendis]], the series writers, simply didn't do the research. Until the end of the series, when he kisses her again, in view of both [[Iron Man]] and Thor. Who then have a chuckle and remark, "Isn't he dating someone on Earth?" So yes, Bendis DOES know the character is dating someone, and he doesn't give a shit, portraying the Marvel Universe's pinnacle of heroism, morality and character as cheater, and his two closest friends who are among the finest heroes of MU as a pair of douche-bros.
* The over-arching plot in ''Avengers Vs X-Men'' is that the Phoenix Force is returning to Earth, keying in on Hope Summers. The Avengers and a few of the X-Men want to try and hide Hope from the Phoenix, fearing that if the Phoenix gained a human host, it would be [[Dark Phoenix Saga|Dark Phoenix]] all over again. Among the current X-Men is Rachel Summers... the last human host of the Phoenix Force, who wielded the power for years as a hero and never once went as out of control as The Avengers have talked about. You'd think someone, like say Wolverine, who is an Avenger and knew both Rachel and Jean Gray, would mention this. Nope. You'd think the X-Men - many of whom, like Logan, were teammates with both Phoenixes - would mention this or the fact that Jean didn't really go crazy until her mind was mucked with by Mastermind? Again, nope. Rachel herself? ''Again. '''No.''' '' Basically the laziest, dumbest [[Excuse Plot]] ever devised to set up a [[Crisis Crossover]] EVER. (and with competition like Civil War and Dark Reign, that's saying something.)
 
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** Rose Wilson, having struggled time and time again to prove herself a good person and a good hero, is finally pushed too far by Wonder Girl and quits the team.
*** Made worse because, after driving Rose off the team, Cassie welcomes Bombshell, a known (ex?)traitor who actively tried to kill half the team in an earlier storyline, onto the team. Bombshell goes on to duplicate Rose's role with less charm and firmly establish herself as [[The Scrappy]].
** [[Canon Immigrant|Wendy and Marvin]], caretakers of Titans Tower and civilian sidekicks to the heroes proper, adopt a cute little dog who is presumed to become Wonder Dog. Then it turns into a monster and eats them. ''Eats them!'' In the base of one of the premier superhero teams in [[The DCU]]!
*** As if Wonder Dog killing Marvin and mauling Wendy wasn't enough, this was an excuse to turn Wendy into a bitter cripple. Marvin...[[Nausea Fuel|let's not go there]].
*** Another wall-banging moment is the Titans not giving a rat's hide about their missing teammate Kid Eternity, who was KIDNAPPED by Marvin's dad in an attempt to bring Marvin back. The Titans haven't noticed. If the Calculator's dialogue is to be believed, then Kid Eternity died and is now [[And I Must Scream|stuck as Marvin's decaying corpse]].
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* ''The Adventures of Superman,'' a [[Recursive Adaptation|comic based on the]] DCAU, has an issue involving a man in Smallville who is ridiculed for his belief in the existence of aliens. This is well after Superman has become famous -- and in this universe, he openly says he is an alien! Hey, just because he ''looks'' human doesn't mean he ''is'' human.
* Writer [[Judd Winick]] pulls Wall Bangers a ''lot'':
** Green Lantern #154, in which we learn the important lesson that [[Captain Obvious Aesop|Beating People Up For Being Gay Is Wrong]] after Green Lantern Kyle Rayner's personal assistant Terry Berg is beaten up by a group of random thugs while leaving a club with his boyfriend. Much earlier, Kyle lost his first girlfriend to supervillain violence in the incident which defined the [[Stuffed in The Fridge]] trope. He saw numerous other violations of basic human decency on a daily basis; in fact, for a few weeks in a storyline shortly before this one, he had felt ''all'' of them on a daily basis as Ion. As Ion, he had universal empathy, but he was at least nearly omni-omnipotent. It appears one Green Lantern can't do much to protect a 15-16 year old boy who barely tips the scales past 100 pounds from getting beaten up by three punks with bricks and baseball bats, all of whom Terry knew and loved... This particular display of man's inhumanity to man (any sense of "man" you prefer) was so bad that it inspired Kyle Rayner to abandon the Earth to wander outer space and help random non-human species. It was also the start of what we Rayner fans call 'The Great Kyle Screw', wherein he just plain started getting screwed over so he could just be shoved into space, period.
** Green Arrow #44, in which we learn that Oliver Queen's adopted daughter Mia is a recovering methhead AND HIV Positive. Despite having been portrayed by Winick as being an unrepentant womanizer and having been one during a time when knowing about AIDS would be vital, Oliver is [[Ping-Pong Naivete|completely ignorant]] about what HIV is and how it is contracted, prompting a text-book recital on how HIV is contracted and treated.
*** It's happened with Oliver Queen before.
{{quote|"My ward Speedy is... a junkie!"}}
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{{quote|[[Narm|"Bees. My God."]]}}
** Oh, there was enough straw for everyone. The US government put random trainloads of women in concentration camps all over the nation because 'they might be Amazon sympathizers!' There were US troops so murderous that they're willing to try and gun down these unarmed unresisting women ''en masse'', and so ''stupid'' that they try doing this when ''standing directly in front of Superman''. Superman was standing right next to them and talking to them, but it never even occurs to any of the soldiers that he might possibly have an objection to mass murder of the unarmed.
** Supergirl and Wonder Girl get duped into siding with the villains, help take down Air Force One, and lead the President of the United States into an ambush. This act of high treason is met with... mild public displeasure after the event.
** [[Rock Beats Laser|The Amazons use bows and arrows to take down F-16s!]]
** Apparently the entire war started because the Amazons thought that Wonder Woman was being held prisoner by the U.S to gain access to the Amazons' advanced technology. The problem with that? Later in the series when some of the superheroes look at the attacks they note that the Amazons couldn't have been responsible for them ''because the attacks were using advanced technology''.
** The war is stopped by the honest-to-God [[Deus Ex Machina]] at the end -- '''WITHOUT THE MACHINA.'''
** Let's not forget that this whole event is really a ''Countdown'' tie-in, and as Linkara pointed out they wasted four months worth of comics and destroyed Wonder Woman's mythos just to make a stupid tie-in to Countdown.
* ''[[Batman: No Man's Land|No Man's Land]]'', a story arc in the Batman family of books during the 1990s, in which an earthquake ruins Gotham City. The U.S. government, deciding that it's too expensive to rebuild it, chooses not only to leave it like that, but also to declare it ''no longer part of the United States!'' Anybody who chooses to stay inside is abandoned to his or her fate, and people who try to smuggle in provisions are SHOT AT by border patrols! The whole idea was to do a "Batman as [[Mad Max]]" story, which isn't bad in and of itself. In fact, the story is awesome in and of itself. But it should have been an out-of-continuity story like those of DC's (excellent) Elseworlds line. Instead, they made it part of the main [[DC Universe]], despite these facts:
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** Shooting people who try to leave is a violation of the general human rights treaty that the US signed [along with other countries] and a violation of the US constitution. US citizens should have the ability to cross ''into'' its borders. The US laying siege to GC made no sense at all: they just needed to set up a border and put some checkpoints on it. Bombing everything that goes in and out made ZERO sense, even if the premise in general wasn't stupid.
{{quote|''No State shall make or enforce any law which shall abridge the privileges or immunities of citizens of the United States; nor shall any State deprive any person of life, liberty, or property, without due process of law; nor deny to any person within its jurisdiction the equal protection of the laws.''}}
* The lead up to the classic [[Green Arrow]]/[[Green Lantern]] team-up, in which they dealt with various social issues across America, was kicked off by by a Black guy chewing out Green Lantern for not helping Black people. Yes, perhaps Hal needed soul-searching concerning how his work as as a super hero unwittingly propped up "The Establishment" (and, for that matter, the silliness of the comic book world in general concentrating on interstellar action while ignoring problems closer to home)... But Green Lantern ''saves the the friggin' world'' on a regular basis. Apparently, Black people don't live on the same planet as the rest of Earth's population.
** It's Hal Jordan. An argument doesn't have to make sense to send him on a guilt trip. He's a sucker for that.
* From ''[[The Dark Knight Strikes Again]]'', a particularly egregious one is when it's revealed that the government has forced Wonder Woman, Superman and ''[[Captain Marvel]]'' to work for them. Linkara had [[Epic Fail|a few things to say about it]] in his review.
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** The ending, with Batman calling {{spoiler|Dick Grayson}} "a failure" who "didn't have the chops" and "couldn't cut the mustard" and killing {{spoiler|him}} without remorse. Sure {{spoiler|he went [[Ax Crazy]] and evil,}} but just blowing him off like that, after all they went through together, is new levels of Batdickery.
*** After seeing what {{spoiler|Dick}} went through, which was ever so-lovingly covered ASBAR (which is technically a prequel to both of Miller's "Dark Knight" stories), it is really easy to see just '''''why''''' {{spoiler|Dick}} went crazy. You actually feel sorry for him and understand why {{spoiler|he went evil}}. With the [[Designated Hero|"heroes"]] that Miller set up in his little Bat-verse, who '''WOULDN'T''' do what he did?!
** Batman has flat out goaded Superman to abandon his humanity and take over the world with Lara. [[Beware the Superman|What was he thinking?]]
* During ''[[Batman|A Death In The Family]]'', the Joker makes a visit to the Middle East and Africa to wreak havoc and ends up killing Jason Todd. The worst part of the storyline is what happens later; a man with the likeness of Ayatollah Khomeini appoints the Joker as Iran's UN Ambassador, thus granting him Diplomatic Immunity. Granted, it was 1989, and this particular method of painting countries evil has been in use since [[World War II]]; but the idea of ANY world leader in their right mind making the [[Axe Crazy|Jo]][[Monster Clown|ker]] an official diplomat with official diplomatic immunity is, um, insane.
* ''[[Cry for Justice]]'' #7 and its aftermath. ''To expand'', the death of Lian Harper, Roy Harper's young daughter. Killed off for no reason in a particularly brutal example of [[Stuffed Into the Fridge]].
** Somehow, it's getting worse. It seems that they're using Lian's death to [[Character Derailment|derail]] Roy Harper from a stable, well adjusted single father into a [[Wangst|wangsty]] drug addict who sinks to using Black Canary's infertility as a point to lash out at her <ref>which in fact is a [[Series Continuity Error]] since Dinah's infertility was cured when she took a dip in a Lazarus Pit a few years back when she was dating Ra's Al Ghul, which just shows how poorly the series was researched</ref> calling Donna Troy a whore and blaming her for ''her'' family's death, and blaming Mia for Lian's death. It sends several decades' worth of [[Character Development]] down the drain to make some half-assed Punisher clone out of Roy.
*** He blamed Mia for ''that?!'' Lian was killed by ''orbital artillery''! What was Mia supposed to do, block it with an Anti-Kill-Sat-Arrow?
** It's getting worse. [http://scans-daily.dreamwidth.org/1971988.html In the next issue], Cheshire shows up and blames Roy for Lian's death. They fight. Somehow, he doesn't die from the poison in her fingernails. But, just as they're about to have [[Foe Yay|hatesex,]] he can't get it up because he's on drugs and impotent. LOL. Needing "some release," he goes to find some other druggies and beats them with a dead cat. The bit with the dead cat is crap icing on the ass shaped cake that is this series.
** And then [[It Got Worse]]. In the final issue, Roy is checked into a rehab program at a prison built specifically for supervillain prisoners. This decision is made by Dick Grayson, who you would think would have more sense than to take a superhero with a public identity and put him in a place full of people who would want to kill him, even if the didn't want to spend any of the Wayne Family fortune on a private-treatment option that would surely be a lot more effective. And Black Canary has a massive [[Character Derailment]] when she basically writes Roy off completely as a lost cause - this being the woman who was the only person who stayed with him and supported him when he was originally going through withdrawal for his heroin habit and the closest thing he's had to a mother.
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** How would anyone do this? Let's assume that there is some group of crazy machine lovers who want to hide the war. Earth got nuked to dust, billions of people died - covering ''that'' up would be impossible.
** Where would you get the resources to accomplish this feat? What about the billions of corpses, what about the cities in ashes, what about the vast skull-strewn wastelands, what about the millions and millions of Skynet robots now dormant, what about the '''vast, sentient factories the size of cities''' that produced Machine warriors day and night and were mentioned in the movies, comics and novels? Where did all of this go? Into the ether?
* ''Youngblood: Judgement Day'' by [[Alan Moore]]. One of the team members, Kinghtsabre, is accused of murdering another member, Riptide, and is put on trial. It is eventually revealed that the team leader, Sentinel, killed her for trying to take a book that dictates the events of the universe by whatever is written in its pages; the book itself has a storied history of being found, used to change history, and lost or stolen by countless owners. The Wallbanger comes in upon learning how the Book of All Stories works: if one can dictate the future by writing in its pages, WHY OR HOW WOULD ANYONE EVER LOSE POSESSION OF IT AGAINST THEIR WILL??? When people wrote their life stories into the book, didn't they think to put safeguards in to make sure that no one took the book -- something like "and a magic force field went up around the book whenever X wasn't using it, preventing anyone from even knowing it existed"? (Add in an immortality clause, and things could get really fun.)
** The creator of the book was a [[Trickster God]] who intended his "gift" to spread chaos and mayhem on Earth. This means it's probable that the Book is ''intended'' to change owners repeatedly... if it could be infallibly sequestered from loss or theft, it would rapidly stop being a random factor and instead just become a tool for one particular entity's total domination of the world, which is boring! For that matter, the creator is still out there, and no one save Glory and his fellow deities even know he exists, so none of the book's owners could possibly be on their guard against him. He could just show up and arrange for the book's loss or theft whenever it had stayed too long in one place.
* From a ''[[Gears of War]]'' comic: The cities on the Jacinto Plateau (the one place the Locust can't dig) still allow women in its Gears, although they are strongly encouraged to have kids everywhere else. Girls are locked up in breeding farms when they turn 14. The girls are artificially inseminated; if that doesn't work, then they are gang-raped; if they turn 18 and still have no kids, then they are sent to the front lines. This makes literally no sense -- why would they ''ever'' allow them into the military short of the abovementioned conscription if they consider having them breed that high a priority... and why would they consider having them breed that high a priority ''right now'' when the entire human race at this point could be wiped out tomorrow and render the entire thing moot? The ''sane'' thing to do would be to ''force'' any able-bodied man, woman and child into the military to ''keep'' the Locust from flooding Jacinto and killing everyone. Worry about breeding later.
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