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The 'gun control' analogy fails on a critical point of US law, specifically that human beings cannot be treated under law like chattels are. Let's generalize.
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(The 'gun control' analogy fails on a critical point of US law, specifically that human beings cannot be treated under law like chattels are. Let's generalize.)
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** In several Creationist Anti-Evolution tracts, an [[Author Avatar]] "defeats" the arguments of a science person with long refuted arguments that ''even other Creationists'' advise not using.
* ''[[X-Men (Comic Book)|X-Men]]'':
** Robert Kelly's arguments (suchabout asmutants comparingbeing mutantpotentially registrationdangerous and how "do nothing" was not a rational response to gunsuch a control)situation actually made sense to some readers and viewers. Then they turned an otherwise logical argument into an [[Anvilicious]] allegory to McCarthyism when they had the senator hold up a "list of names of identified mutants", shifting the argument from "Some mutants are dangerous" to "All mutants are dangerous". Of course, once the killer mutant-seeking robots come in (and ''they always do''), it seems clear that Kelly is [[Jumping Off the Slippery Slope]], even if his arguments do have a grain of truth to them.
** In [[The Movie]], Kelly specifically mentions [[Mythology Gag|a girl who can]] [[Intangible Man|walk through walls]], and asks "What's to stop her from walking right into a bank vault -- or the White House?" In the very next movie, a [[Brainwashed and Crazy]] Nightcrawler is able to [[Teleporters and Transporters|teleport]] into the White House and kick the Secret Service's collective ass, proving Kelly right. Of course, Professor Xavier's point (in all versions) is that mutants need to be trained to use their powers responsibly, and that treating innocent mutants who have done nothing criminal as requiring surveillance is counter-productive, the more moderate (and since he's a main character, the one we're supposed to see as "correct") response. [[Word of God|According to the director's commentary]], this degree of ambiguity was completely intentional.
** Sometimes the point for Senator Kelly is intentional, showing that it stems from a genuine concern about safety for normal humans. These stories usually contrast him with Graydon Creed, who's just an outright bigot.
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