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[[File:Spoony_BardSpoony Bard.jpg|link=Final Fantasy IV|frame|[[Woolseyism|Damn his spooniness!]]]]
 
 
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But then, while the [["Stop Having Fun!" Guys|dedicated RPG gamers]] will always [[Just Here for Godzilla|beeline for the characters with the best damage-dealing potential or who do the best in their party role]], if only because they are so [[The Coconut Effect|ingrained into the minds of RPG players that they would reject anything else]], many game makers also want to cater to players who want to see something a little different, and which makes the game something more than just a matter of the same [[Fantasy Character Classes|four basic characters]]. Even when there are other classes, they really only fill the same roles that those major four pillars of RPG-dom dictate, but with an added gimmick.
 
Enter the bard! (or sometimes "dancer" or "cheerleader") For some reason, when game makers want more [[Splat|splatssplat]]s, bards are the way that ''everyone'' tries to make their game "different." Bards provide an entirely new role that falls outside of those standard four roles, which lets players who want to try something different have a way to support the party in a way that is (questionably) new and (possibly) unique.
 
It rarely works as intended. Bards usually become spoony when they run into one of two major problems:
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* First, bards can often be an attempt at being a [[Jack of All Stats|jack of all trades]]. This may seem nice on paper - they can back up the powers of their specialized compatriots whenever a [[Plot Tailored to the Party|certain role is critically needed]]. If the party is undermanned, they may need someone who can fill two roles at once. Unfortunately, because [[Crippling Overspecialization]] is often not crippling in these games, [[Min-Maxing]] is implicitly encouraged. Even worse, because [[Linear Warriors, Quadratic Wizards]] means different classes progress at different rates and the monsters are built to be a challenge to those characters of the basic four specialized types, the bard is often [[Can't Catch Up|struck with abilities so underleveled by comparison as to make them completely useless]]. The Spoony Bard fails to become even a "jack" at all trades, only managing to become a [[Master of None]].
 
* Alternately, bards can be built to specialize in status effect abilities. This ''can'' often be a wonderful way to add a new role to the game, it's in [[An Adventurer Is You]] as "Buffers" and "Mezzers" for a reason. In games where enemies can have powers that disable your own characters, having a character that can disable them first, or provide your teammates immunity to their tricks is a great boon. This often falls flat, however, because the status effects in many games are actually [[Useless Useful Spell|Useless Useful Spells]]s. This problem is often exacerbated by having fairly short fights in many games where the standard [[Mook]] enemies you mow through are only meant to turn the game into an endurance match, anyway. A spell or song that gives a +30% attack bonus is only a useful bonus if you are actually going to attack at least four times with that status effect on - if not, congratulations, you just wasted a turn. Even if boss fights are fairly long, if the bard specializes in nothing but debuff spells, the enemy may be [[Contractual Boss Immunity|immune]], and the buff spells may simply not be useful enough to justify using a bard instead of another character.
 
It is worth noting that oftentimes, bard-type characters are Spoony Bards because the game makers simply didn't think things through when they made the class and didn't do proper balancing. Typically, when a class is "weak and worthless," especially in MMORPGs, other classes will be [[Nerf|nerfednerf]]ed, or the bards will get additional beneficial gimmicks to make them useful and avoid an inevitable revolt by the players.
 
On the other hand not everyone plays just for the thrill of the kill and some gamers want to avoid [[Complacent Gaming Syndrome]], so the ability to play with a "fun" mechanic or to try something new is sometimes worth the loss of effectiveness.
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* Varies in the RPG ''[[Dungeons and Dragons|Dungeons & Dragons]]'', depending on edition and campaign. There are a lot of "trap" classes in almost all editions. This is where [[Linear Warriors, Quadratic Wizards]] came from after all.
** First edition bards were an odd class that required several levels in 3 different classes before you could begin taking levels in bard, and even then the abilities were of questionable use at best.
** Interestingly enough, the second edition bard was just the [[Jack of All Stats]]. However, at a certain range of experience (party average around 3 to 12) this trope was [[Inverted Trope|inverted]], making bards curiously but non-obviously overpowered during this common range of play. Due to their being on the Thief experience table, they gained levels much faster than their wizard buddies, which allowed them to outperform wizards in their area of expertise for a good portion of the game due to their nukes being stronger--notstronger—not to mention the Thief skills, the weapon proficiencies, the improved [[THAC 0]] table, and bardic music. Unfortunately, [[Zig-Zagging Trope|the straight use of this trope]] comes into play after the middle levels, as they hit a hard limit on their spells and wizard-classes's advancement scheme became less stingy.
** [http://www.d20srd.org/srd/classes/bard.htm Third edition bards] are typically a 5th wheel in parties with their jack abilites not really doing well enough to sub for a proper member. Thankfully as a core class they get ''tons'' of splat support that makes them quite effective ... if they specialize.
*** Third edition also had the beguiler class, which was very solidly this trope. It was essentially a bard with fewer skill points, lower attack bonuses, and ''only'' illusion and enchantment spells (as opposed to the bard's ''mostly'' illusion and enchantment selection). In comparison, the bard suddenly became a very viable option. They are more or less Final Fantasy IV's Edward as a class given that the only things they are good at is messing with enemies without directly hurting them, and hiding (either through invisibility, disguises or what-have-you).
*** The Factotum is divisive. Certain players love its "versatility" while others deride it for being too absurdly weak to actually contribute meaningfully no matter how "versatile" it professes to be. Likewise, the Chameleon prestige class.
** Mostly averted in [http://www.wizards.com/DnD/Article.aspx?x=dnd/dramp/20081103 fourth edition. Bards] are a "leader" class (healer/buffer/debuffer) like Clerics and Warlords, and are neither conspicuously better nor conspicuously worse at that role than those classes; they'll be solid contributors to any party that isn't overloaded with such characters. Bards tend to focus more on debuffs than the others, which have their own specialties too. In a nod to their "jack of all trades" style in previous editions, they are the only class that can take multiclass feats corresponding to more than one other class.
*** In 4th Edition, the ''Cleric'' class [[Linear Warriors, Quadratic Wizards|of all people]] very easily led to this trope--especiallytrope—especially before the lion's share of the [[Splatbooks]] came out. The class was (and is) the most eclectic in the game, with a lot of powers bordering on useless and/or counterproductive to the role. Fortunately, due to the lowered ability density of 4th Edition they still retain(ed) their [[Game Breaker]] status (as least [[Obvious Rule Patch|before the errata onslaught anyway]]) to a player who knows what they're doing. To one that doesn't, they're this trope.
* And then there was [http://paizo.com/pathfinderRPG/prd/classes/bard.html#bard Pathfinder. The Bard] now supplies large bonuses to his party without it taking up his actions and has class features which grant him "virtual" skills by allowing Perform to double up for two more skills. In addition, the Bard is able to use all Knowledges without training, and half his level is added as a bonus. You have a class which buffs his whole team, is a skill monkey, and without spending a single skill point is likely to know more about everything than the rest of the party combined, plus serves as a natural face for the group. Sure, the Bard is still not a powerhouse in combat, but in any but the most hack-n-slash campaigns, it's a solid, non-spoony choice.
* The [[Returners Final Fantasy Roleplaying Game]] practically inverts this trope, especially in relation to the [[Trope Namer]]. They can endlessly throw around group affecting buffs and debuffs for free while still doing decent magical damage and they can use Hide to avoid predictable attacks making them very valuable against both tough mobs and bosses. Their main weakness, just to further separate them from [[Final Fantasy IV|Edward]], is a tendency to go last.
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* In the [[Dungeons and Dragons|Dungeons & Dragons]] based game [[Baldur's Gate]], bards tend to be bad fighters and bad magic users, but get more bonuses toward identifying items through the "Lore" statistic than any other class. If your party loadout includes a specialist wizard who can't cast the Identify spell on an item, having a bard can help avert spending large amounts of money identifying the magic items you frequently encounter but their utility usually stopped there.
** The sequel, Baldur's Gate II, introduced class kits that would allow bards to beef up aspects of the class. Picking a Blade, one of the DPS oriented kits, and combining it with some defensive mage spells potentially made characters which could outpace other fighters in terms of armor and damage output.
* The [[Trope Namer]] is Prince Edward Chris von Muir from ''[[Final Fantasy IV]]''. After the death of an otherwise plot-unimportant daughter, the party's sage Tellah rails against the unfortunate lute player with a stream of insults and threats including "You spoony bard!", a somewhat [[Bowdlerise|Bowdlerised]]d translation that [[Good Bad Translation|became popular and was retained when the game was re-translated for the GBA version]] (though in the DS game the retranslator NPC found in the dwarven kingdom's Developer's Room states, "The bard ''is'' spoony. [[Lampshade Hanging|We checked!]]", see page quote.). Edward himself is [[Joke Character|singularly useless]], employing a ''[[Musical Assassin|harp]]'' as a weapon and possessing the special ability of [[Musical Assassin|"singing" at enemies]] -- a—a skill that's supposed to inflict [[Standard Status Effects|status ailments]] but [[Useless Useful Spell|which frequently does nothing at all]]. Edward's other special ability, unsurprisingly, is to run away and hide for a turn. In "hard-type", though, he's ''slightly'' more useful because he can also spread potions amongst the whole party. Slightly.
* As Game Informer so aptly summarized, "His special command is Hide, which allows him to run away and leave a twelve year old girl to take his lumps for him. Classy, Edward."
** The DS version buffed him considerably, and his Bardsong became far more useful. You can pick the song you want, and one Edward learns actually heals your party while he isn't interrupted. And then you can give Bardsong to someone that isn't Edward...
*** The DS version doesn't fix his other problem though, his crappy availability. He joins right after the second dungeon, which happens to be one of the longer dungeons of the first segment of the game. After that, you get to do the Antlion Den, where he is somewhat useful due to the fact that he can heal better than Rydia with his Salve ability, allowhing her to concentrate on DPS like she should be. One problem, all the enemies in the cave barring perhaps goblins can 2-shot him, and the boss can and probabally will one shot him. So right when could have had a legitimate use, he will likely get one shotted in a turn or two. Of course, the bosses attacks hurt quite a bit, so that may be a use in of itself. Then Rosa comes in, who is superior to him in every way possible, but don't worry, she'll only overshadow him for one reletivly breif dungeon, and then he leaves your party forever. So that means, at best, he is useful for one rather short dungeon, even Fusoya had better availability than that!
** [[Magikarp Power|Late in the GBA version of the game, Edward becomes one of the fastest characters in the game]]. Equip him with the Apollo Harp, and he can easily dish out 2000+ damage ''every few seconds''. And woe unto any dragon-type enemies you run into, as Edward will regularly dole out anywhere from 8000+ to max damage ''per hit''. Then he gets his ultimate weapon Loki's Lute which does that much damage to ANY creature that has a racial flag. (like dragon, demon or giant) His only glaring weaknesses are his defense and lack of hit points, making him more of a [[Glass Cannon]] -- but—but even then, he deals full damage from the back row, so defence is less important for him. There was also an accessory that changes his useless sing command to a Mighty Guard Spell. There was also his other much-upgraded ability, Salve: in previous versions, all it did was to take a potion and split it between the party members for a whopping 25 HP of healing. In the DS remake, it instead allows you to take any item and use it on the entire party at once with full effect, although it does use up as many of the said item as there are party members. Like the previous skill, it can also be later given to another character as well.
** Edward indirectly contributes towards making Edge a lot more useful than he normally would be: Throw can be used while Hiding, and thus he can throw stuff at enemies while being completely unhittable, although hidden characters have a tendency to return on their own after a set amount of time has passed. Aim is also usable when hiding, but it's not nearly as useful or damaging as Throw.
** All this said, the famous line that named this trope doesn't appear in the original Japanese version. In its place is Tellah screaming [[What the Hell, Hero?|"You bastard! How dare you!"]]; one way or another, it's not nearly as memorable as the line that took its place.
*** Seems like poor Edward just can't seem to catch a break. While he's shown to be much less wimpier storywise and he still retains his Salve ability in After Years, his Bardsong is again randomized. At very least you can still choose whether you want to target your party or enemies with it, including being able to choose from a single/all party members/enemies and the negative statuses it can cause have potential to at least be useful this time around since the game follows the DS version trend of making [[Useless Useful Spell|Useless Useful Spells]]s less useless. While he's not the [[Glass Cannon]] he was in the GBA version anymore, his damage output isn't that far behind from the other characters, he's still decently fast, the aforementioned Salve can be even more useful than the White Mages' healing spells both because of the buyable X-Potions and Elixirs and an item that doubles the effectiveness of items in battle and his ability to hide can still be useful against enemies who telegraph their [[Total Party Kill]] attacks.
*** And seeing how Edward is still moping over his beloved Anna ''[[Final Fantasy IV: The After Years|17 years]]'' after her death, such that his kingdom is without an heir, he apparently still fits the literal definition as well. That said, he's ''much'' [[Took a Level In Badass|more confident and assertive]] now, and is one of the only heroes to get the better of the villains, if temporarily, so far.
* The Dancer and Bard classes in ''[[Final Fantasy Tactics]]''. Dancers can use their weakest dance to enormously powerful effect in a properly tweaked party (three Dancers and two Mimes with strength boosted as high as possible). This is generally the second most powerful party possible in the game. Without this strategy, however, the Dancer class was mostly useless (which theoretically makes it a [[Magikarp Power|Magikarp]]).
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* ''[[Final Fantasy Tactics A2]]'' has an actual bard as a unique character ... and he's quite spoony, since unlike [[Game Breaker|Final Fantasy Tactics unique characters]], FFTA2 has absolutely terrible stat growth in unique classes. His bard songs aren't of much help, since only his MP boosting power offers something another class can't already do with a better range of alternate actions, and dedicating a unit to boosting MP would only be of use if you had multiple mages trading out Halve MP or Blood Price for Geomancy or Magic UP while staying in formation. Fortunately, he can learn from other classes, like Juggler or Time Mage, but depending on what level you were when you recruited him, his low stats will ensure he never can quite compete with a generic specifically leveled for certain stats.
** He does make up for it with two songs. Undead Requiem does massive damage to zombie type monsters at long range and can remove multiple tombstones at once (the tombstones revert back to the zombie monster after a set amount of turns have passed). Nameless Song gives multiple units random buffs (Ranging from Haste, Reflect, Reraise, Shell, Protect, and Regen) without costing any MP at all. This is an improved version of the same ability Nu Mou Scholars can do, which only affects one person and costs MP to use.
*** And the strategy of multiple mages in formation works relatively well with Illusionists who have the High Magic second ability for the Magic Frenzy attack and the Dual Wield support ability-- aability—a strategy that allows a character two make one magic attack and two physical attacks against every enemy on the screen but consumes MP at a prodigious rate.
** The game also uses the Spoony Bard thing as an insult; in one of the Bonga Bugle missions, one of the enemy units calls [[Leeroy Jenkins|the Head Editor]] a "spoony seeq".
* In ''[[Final Fantasy XI]]'' the Bard is an example of the Gamebreaker side, it is so popular (due to its completely free buffs) that most people say that you can get offers for [[Level Grinding]] parties without raising your invite flag (to signify that you are looking for a party); this gets to the point to which some people have to go into anonymous mode (which hides what job and level your character is) to avoid getting invites. Though this has happened with other jobs, bards are pretty much the only one that has always been like this. [[Summon Magic|Summoners]], traditionally the most powerful job in [[Final Fantasy]] games, fits this trope on the other side due to being able to do useful things less frequently than any other job.
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* ''[[Final Fantasy III]]'' had a nice variety of classes, but there were several that were either only useful once in the game or were so useless that they could be totally overlooked. Its version of the Bard class is ''even worse'' than FFIV's Edward, with little attack power or defense and only one command ("Cheer") that has any use whatsoever. The Scholar, similarly, has little attack or defensive power, but has the "Scan" command which is vital in ''exactly one'' battle in the game, against {{spoiler|Hyne}}. The DS remake, however, did make the Bard at least marginally useful. If you got Bard's Job levels high enough and equipped them with correct harp, they could restore at least 1000 HP to everyone instantly.
** Scholars also double the effectiveness of any items that they use. This includes the items that give you a free cast of high-level offensive magic like Blizzaga. Pair them up with a Thief (to ensure a steady supply of items) and you've got a small nuke with no reliance on MP.
** A number of the more useless jobs in ''III'' had their Spoony Bard status almost completely reversed in the DS remake, turning into [[Lethal Joke Character|Lethal Joke Characters]]s if you get enough job levels in them. Particular notes are the aforementioned Scholar (on top of the weapon effectiveness boost gets a lot of charges for low-levelled spells, and when dual-wielding the higher-leveled [[Throw the Book At Them|books]] can output insane damage given they're a support class) and the Geomancer (stick with the class for long enough and you'll start cursing when you get the rare high-damage single-target Shadowflare, because you hit the damage cap anyway).
* In the first ''[[Baldur's Gate]]'', the bard class was pretty much tragically underpowered compared to the others -- thereothers—there was no good reason to choose a bard over a rogue. Things got better with the sequel and with [[Icewind Dale]].
** Bards are actually one of the easier classes to solo the first game with, thanks to the ability to use wands and backstab while invisible.
* Any of the Bards of the ''[[Romancing SaGa]]'' trilogy. {{spoiler|The first was actually the [[Crystal Dragon Jesus]] [[The Reveal|in disguise as the bard.]] The second one retold the tales of your empire at the start of the game, and had 5 important instruments needed to acquire a character class, and the last was recruitable and was pretty decent in all stats, only problem was that you could only ditch him after clearing one of the Abyss Lords.}}
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* ''Dungeon Explorer'' has a bard class which is considered one of the most useless classes in the game.
* Many, many, many ''[[Pokémon]]'' fall into this category. Because any player can choose from all of them, many tend to get ignored completely. This tends to lead to [[Magikarp Power]] when you realize that damn near any Pokémon can be used effectively if you raise them right and throw on some [[T Ms]]...Okay, ASIDE from Magikarp.
** In a more bardly example, Chatot basically exists for its one unique move,<ref> Which is a recorded message that has a chance to confuse which is higher the louder the message.</ref>, is only catchable near the end of the games it debuted in, never evolves, and is generally useless.
** When the Double Battle mode was just introduced, several gimmicks for showing off its capabilities have been added. Most glaring example: Plusle and Minun. They have an ability that increases their special attack when they battle together... but their movepool sucks, their stats suck, no sane man would ever use them both in one team. In short, they are a bit less useless in double battles. A bit.
** Ditto in the original game, before breeding was introduced, had horrible stats, five shots of any skill your opponent used, and let your opponent go first by definition.
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* Averted in [[MARDEK|Mardek: Chapter 3]] whose 'Siren' Elwyen has to be one of the least spoony bards of all time. She has powerful party buffs that stack with all other buff abilities (and are better than most of them), a decent group heal, the strongest anti-undead spell in the game, and a couple weird abilities that no other character can duplicate. Her songs also cost no MP, and the offensive ones never miss...which is very useful against fairy-type enemies, who with high magic resistance and insane physical evasion are usually considered the [[Demonic Spiders]] of this game.
* Averted in ''[[Dragon Age Origins]]'' where Leliana is a highly competent addition to the party, bringing deadly rogue skills to the table. If you follow her dialogue trees, you learn that the bards of Orlais are in fact spies and assassins, masters of intrigue and deception.
** The Bard specialization, which Leliana starts with and any Rogue can take after you get her approval high enough, offers several buff and debuff skills to the normally DPS class. It also helps that multiple bard songs of the same type stack, and that their effectiveness is based on the cunning stat, which with the right talent is also largely responsible for damage potential. In short, bards are effective because they don't need to sacrifice their damage potential to be good bards--theirbards—their buffs actually complement their damage output rather then trading in for it.
** 'Enemy' bards manage to be incredibly dangerous. High-leveled ones can set up Captivating Song, stunlocking anyone within a fair-sized radius of themselves. They're immobilized while doing this, but so is everyone else. It's telling that bard is among the rarest enemy classes.
** Also averted in ''[[Dragon Age II]]'', as all of Varric's music-themed skills (he hums to his weapon) are either permanent upgrades or direct damage dealers.
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== Web Comics ==
* Gildward, the bard from the webcomic ''[[Adventurers!]]'', is a parody of the original [[Spoony Bard]] from ''[[Final Fantasy IV]]''. His name is even a combination of "Edward" and "Gilbert", Edward's Japanese name. In [http://www.adventurers-comic.com/d/0034.html this strip], he [[Defied Trope|almost]] gets called a [[Spoony Bard]] after demonstrating the utterly ineffectual powers of his magic harp.
* Elan from ''[[The Order of the Stick|Order of the Stick]]'' is as [[Cloudcuckoolander|spoony]] as they come. His bard songs are pretty much useless, his motivational speeches have a tendency to horribly backfire, and the only weapons he can use can be [[Breakable Weapons|Sundered by someone cursing too loud.]] However, his real talent is a result of his bardic training: he's as [[Genre Savvy]] as they come, and sees damn near everything coming. Whenever he works close enough with [[Genius Bruiser]] Roy, he becomes [[Dangerously Genre Savvy]]. And that training perfectly synergizes with the Dashing Swordsman [[Prestige Class]] he literally [[Took a Level In Badass|took a level in]] - which turns entertaining quips and drama into [[Badass|Bad Assery]] - turning him into a [[One-Man Army]].
** Notable in that his [[Took a Level In Badass|leveling up]] hasn't drowned out the endearing aspects of his character: optimism, ''extraordinary'' loyalty to his friends, and a certain bumbling charm that makes him what he is. [[Character Development|Elan's progression]] from a simple Spoony Bard to Dashing Swordsman isn't just about getting more/useful class powers, but him developing the chops to be a genuine [[Big Damn Hero]]. As part of this growth he also is slowly shown to be [[How Do I Shoot Web|learning how to properly use his regular bardic spells]].
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