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{{quote|''"We choose to [[Real Life|go to the moon]] in this decade and do the other things, not because they are easy, but because they are hard."''|'''[[John F. Kennedy]]'''}}
 
The usually less annoying [[Sister Trope]] to the [["Stop Having Fun!" Guys|"Stop Having Fun!" Guy]], the [[Challenge Gamer]] has equal dedication to his '"art'" but instead of striving to surpass others, he focuses instead on improving his own skills as far as they will go. This is the type of gamer who gets [[Gameplay Grading|high scores]] on [[Nintendo Hard]] games at [[Harder Than Hard|full]] [[Fake Difficulty]], and loves nothing more than to tell (and '''show!''') infuriated casual gamers ([[scrub]]s included) that ''it can be done after all''. They may also specialize in various [[Self-Imposed Challenge|Self Imposed Challenges]]s such as the myriad types of '"runs'", or attempt to see [[Script Breaking|how horribly they can destroy the game system]].
 
The Challenge Gamer tends to focus on games with systems that can be exploited, [[Fake Skill|but not in the conventional sense]]. If he plays fighting games, expect to see him aim for stuff like time or combo records rather than beating other players. RPGs are all about gaining levels and cranking out ridiculous numbers, not [[Player Versus Player]]. FPS multiplayer? Sorry, gotta shave a second off my [[Speed Run]]. A Challenge Gamer also will not complain about exploits or bugs, but will embrace them as a means by which a skilled gamer can push the bar higher. Adeptness at exploiting the programming flaws or loopholes in a game may even be a requirement for joining the game's Challenge Gamer community.
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== [[Action Adventure]] ==
* In ''[[Cave Story]]'', there are generally two popular challenges: The 100% challenge and the minimal items challenge. The latter means that you only pick up the three weapons you absolutely need to pick up and that you play through the entire game (including the [[Brutal Bonus Level]]) with only 3 max HP. In that same Bonus Level, there is also a timer, so of course there are plenty of speedruns both for 100% and minimal items.
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