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** The fight against {{spoiler|Dozo and Okiyo in the Euclid Arena}} qualifies, but it is possible to win with some extra grinding/Infinity Plus X swords available elsewhere (It goes up to Infinity Plus 5!)
* In ''[[Tales of Symphonia (Video Game)|Tales of Symphonia]]'', there are two Fission Mailed battles {{spoiler|at the Tower of Salvation against Kratos and Yggdrasill}}. Both battles allow you to lose and still continue the game, but you can also defeat them. The first battle can be beat with a bit of grinding, but the second would take a major amount of leveling to pull off (probably approaching Level Cap).
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* In ''[[The Elder Scrolls]] III: [[Morrowind]]'', one of the side quests requires you to {{spoiler|go to a specific canal in Vivec and allow yourself to drown to death in order to find a hidden shrine.}}
** Similarly in ''[[The Elder Scrolls Four|Oblivion]]'', there's a quest where you have to let a NPC kill you. This time though the game explicitly tells you what you must do.
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