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* Just like the Jean Grey example itself, Zero from ''[[
** According to the creator, Zero was originally supposed to stay dead the first time. It didn't work out.
** Fans also forget that X himself isn't much better. Zero was supposed to die in X5, but it was retconned to a near-death - and X himself also nearly died. Zero died later on when the [[Colony Drop|Ragnarok Satellite]] fell, and by then X was ''already'' dead and even his 'cyber-elf' spirit had vanished from the physical world. And X was ''also'' brought back as a biometal same time as Zero. Discounting the retconned death, Zero has died twice, X once, and both have a close-call each.
** Another example from the series: Guts Man of ''[[
** From ''[[Mega Man Star Force]]'', we have Luna,
* From ''[[
** In addition, thanks to ''[[Dissidia]]'' Firion will forever be associated with the so-called "wild rose" and his dream of filling the world with roses.
* From ''[[
** Kain gets [[Brainwashed]] ''once'', with a period between the Tower of Zot and Sealed Cave where Golbez loses the signal and has to retune it. Somehow that apparently translates into [[Heel Face Revolving Door]] even though he only leaves and rejoins ''twice''.
** In the sequel ''[[The After Years]]'' Kain is evil again and Rosa spends most of the plot on the sidelines after fleeing from Baron before Kain kidnaps her. The other characters even wonder "Has Kain been brainwashed again?" {{spoiler|
* Despite resolving the majority of his issues and becoming a confident leader by the end of the game, ''[[
** Then again, the producers of ''[[Advent Children]]'' admitted that they characterized Cloud as very angsty because they thought fans would be "familiar" with this characterization.
** If it's not the [[Wangst]], then it's the cross-dressing mission to get in Don Corneo's mansion. Even though it's optional, ''[[Robot Chicken]]'' put Cloud under their gay game characters because he went in a hot tub with other men in speedos.
* Though not as negative as some examples here, Zidane in ''[[
* If there's one thing [[Final Fantasy X
* In ''[[
* In ''[[
** Hope will forever be known as the [[Wangst|whiney]] Mamas Boy with [[You Killed My Father|a revenge complex]]. However, he gets out of this phase [[Character Development|less than halfway through the game.]]
*** Although even if it's a quarter of the way through a Final Fantasy game that STILL means you have to put up with it for 5-10 HOURS. And it doesn't help that he wants revenge on the guy who tried to SAVE his mother while Hope himself cowered in safety.
** Snow himself is [[The Scrappy|hated]] for...[[What Do You Mean It's Not Heinous?|wanting to save his girlfriend from]] an [[Eldritch Abomination]]. He gets far more CD than that (during chapter 7 it's revealed he has a bit of a guilt complex because he knows he ''can't'' save everyone) but according to some fan forums, all Snow can say is "Serah" "Hero" "Protect" and "[[Memetic Mutation|STEELGUARD]]". Doubly weird since he actually let's Serah do her own thing in [[Final Fantasy XIII
* [[The Chick|Kairi]] only gets properly kidnapped twice in the ''[[Kingdom Hearts]]'' series (both in ''II'', and in the first instance she actually escapes on her own; the first game had her lifeless body held captive by Riku but her heart/essence safe with Sora), yet most of the fandom apparently will forever deem her a [[Damsel Scrappy]] who "always gets kidnapped" regardless.
** Speaking of ''[[Kingdom Hearts]]'', Tetsuya Nomura will absolutely never live down... [[Hercules (
* In ''[[Fire Emblem]] 7'', Erk makes a few small comments to Priscilla about the stress of being Serra's escort. Somehow, this equals him bashing Serra to everyone who will listen every time he opens his mouth.
** Then again, Erk's very first appearance has him complaining about Serra to himself after she leaves, so it's not too far off.
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* ''[[Metal Gear Solid]]'' has this with Rosemary. A certain Codec call topped off with an argument with her emotionally distant boyfriend launched her status as one of [[The Scrappy|The Scrappies]] of the series, with plenty of [[Die for Our Ship]] sentiments on the side.
** Otacon [[Bring My Brown Pants|pisses himself]] when being attacked by an insane [[Blood Knight]] [[Ninja Pirate Zombie Robot|Undead Cyborg Ninja]] who had just murdered a corridor full of armed soldiers and was [[Jack Bauer Interrogation Technique|trying to squeeze some information from Otacon that he genuinely didn't know]]. Fandom is mocking him for this to this day. Particularly weird when ''three'' other characters piss themselves in the series (Emma, Sokolov, and even Big Boss), without the reputation for incontinence sticking; then again, two of the three are dead before their game ends, and the third is [[Memetic Badass|goddamn Big Boss]].
* The entire genre of [[Text
** Especially ridiculous because in the first game, you ''can'' (you'll just get killed), and in the third, obtaining the flask is THE OBJECTIVE!
** "[[Zork
** "[[Colossal Cave|You are in a maze of twisty little passages, all alike.]]" ("But if you think that's bad, wait until you get to the 'nondescript area of a cave', which is also a maze, we just don't bother to reveal it via an overly elaborate and easily memed description.")
* Apparently, "[[Gratuitous English|I're stain mah hends with your bra!" and "You cannot escape flom dess!"]] are the only things [[Fatal Fury|Geese Howard]] ever says according to some fans. Those phrases originated from ''[[
** On a similar note, it appears that for anything in regards to SNK characters, the only artwork or voice samples they will ever use of them is from CvS1 or CvS2, invariably.
*** SNK itself. Disregard taunts, parries, super moves, super meter, background cameos and just about everything ''[[
** Terry Bogard has also ended up on the recieving end of this thanks to his Buster Wolf DM as whenever they think of his [[Gratuitous English|rampant Engrish]] habits, they'll invariably go for his "ARE YOU OKAY?!" and "BUSTAH WORF!" line, and his Buster Wolf as being his most famous, ubiquitous move (Kind of like Vegeta's signature move being Galick Gun despite only using it once). Believe it or not Terry has NOT had that DM in every single game he's ever been in, having only been in ''Garou: Mark of the Wolves'', both ''[[Capcom vs. SNK Millennium Fight 2000|Capcom]] [[Capcom vs. SNK 2 Mark of the Millennium|Vs SNK]]'' games (See above bullet point for that), ''KOF 2003'', ''XI'' and ''XIII''. But it seems like its all he can ever say and perform, according to most, thanks to the aforementioned question.
* Cirno from the ''[[Touhou]]'' series is indeed [[The Ditz]], but ever since she was labeled "(9) Baka" in the 9th game's instruction manual, her stupidity has become her defining trait in fandom. Her other claim to fame is her "Icicle Fall" spellcard on Easy, which has a safe spot directly in front of her. This has led some to believe she is an easy boss, only to find out that on Normal and harder, she still has some pretty nasty attacks, not to mention that "Icicle Fall" on Normal doesn't have that safe spot anymore.
** An even worse case from the same series is Mystia Lorelei. After defeating her in the eighth game's second stage, Yuyuko Saigyouji, the final boss of the previous game and one of the characters you can play as in this game, made a joke about having eaten her: ever since then, fanon basically made her into the cast's emergency food ration (with Yuyuko being her most frequent predator), with plenty of eating and chicken (she's a bird girl) jokes at her expense. In short, a bird version of [[Excel Saga (
*** Yuyuko herself would become known as a [[Big Eater]] because of this, as well as her comments about the game's events being a "wonderful midnight snack tour," with [[Flanderization]] taking her appetite to [[Extreme Omnivore]] levels.
**** Aki Eda turns Yuyuko's appetite into a [[Crowning Moment of Awesome]] when, at the end of the [[Batman Gambit]] within the [[Xanatos Gambit]] that is ''Silent Sinner in Blue'', Yuyuko prioritizes stealing a simple jug of Lunarian sake over advanced Lunarian technology and weaponry. It's too trivial for retaliatory action and can be consumed in a single sitting so it can never be recovered, but it perfectly broadcasts "We win."
** Youmu isn't a model of courage and maturity to begin with, but since she utterly failed a test of courage in ''Oriental Sacred Place'', it seems the fandom will never see her again as anything but a crybaby who shrieks like a little girl and cries in a corner at the sight of ghosts or anything that looks like one, despite her being half-ghost herself and being indifferent to real ghosts in canon.
** There's also Keine, the unfortunate were-hakutaku who will forever be known for all the [[Touhou
* [[John Romero]]. ''[[Daikatana (Video Game)|Daikatana]]''. That is all.▼
** Since the day she lost the Jeweled Pagoda of Bishamonten and needed Nazrin's help to retrieve it, Shou Toramaru has been [[Flanderization|Flanderized]] in fanon into an insufferable and incompetent scatterbrain who loses or misplaces her belongings all the time, much to Nazrin's irritation.
** Only because we're all confused as to whether or not we were ever actually made his bitches.
** Best described in [https://web.archive.org/web/20120614062233/http://archive.gamespy.com/articles/june03/dumbestmoments/index.shtml a 2003 Gamespy article detailing the 25 dumbest moments in video game history] (a list in which Ion Storm [[Rule of Three|appears three times]]):
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* In-story of ''[[Mercenaries]] 2'', your merc will be known throughout Venezuela as "the merc that Solano shot in the ass".
* Francis has this in ''[[Left 4 Dead]]'' during the Crash Course campaign. Ever since Zoey shot the (infected) helicopter pilot that saved them from No Mercy hospital and they wound up crashing, Francis will take every moment he can get to remind Zoey of what she did.
** The fans of ''Left 4 Dead'' will never let Valve forget their "promise" of giving the game constant updates and content like with ''[[
* Has happened to many ''[[Backyard Sports]]'' characters. For example, Dmitri will forever be known as [[The Smart Guy]], while Maria will forever be known as the girl with pigtails.
* Shiro Emiya from ''[[Fate/stay
** One of Shiro's ideals as [[The Messiah]] is that he doesn't want to see Saber (and, for the most part, [[Love Interest|Saber]] ''specifically'') injured because of his own weakness. If you listened to the internet, you'd think his every other sentence is "[[Stay in
* Gunpei Yokoi for a number of years was mainly known for the [[Virtual Boy]] and his tragic death, although he's recently remembered now for his positive legacy, such as ''[[Metroid]]'' and creating the Game & Watch and [[Game Boy]].
** Interestingly enough, Gunpei Yokoi is also the man that originally came up with the idea for Nintendo to adopt the policy of 'Lateral thinking with withered technology'.
* Gunpei's protege, Yoshio Sakamoto, will never live down the fact that he was responsible for the [[Broken Base|highly divisive]] ''[[Metroid: Other M]]'', despite being the person behind the beloved ''[[Super Metroid]]'', the [[Wario]] games and the ''[[
* ''[[Drakengard]]'' will likely be remembered as the game where {{spoiler|giant winged babies come out of a hole in the sky and eat everyone and the main character gets shot down by fighter jets in modern-day Japan.}} Despite its infamy, that's actually ''not'' the Canon ending.
** However, that ending ''does'' lead into ''[[
* In-game example: The Jedi Exile in ''[[Knights of the Old Republic]]'' is there when the planet Peragus is destroyed (depending on the player's choices, s/he could also be responsible for it). Regardless of whether or not the Exile is actually responsible, it seems everyone and their Twi'lek dancer is reminding them about it. On one occasion where you're allowed to pick a line about how it wasn't the Exile's fault, the character's response is that of course it was, since the Exile chose to go to Peragus. Sadly, there is no option to comment on how the Exile was drugged and rendered unconscious by an assassin droid hired by that same character in the first place...
** The Exile was also responsible for the destruction of Malachor V in the backstory: some characters seem to extrapolate this and Peragus and come to the conclusion that blowing up planets is some kind of regular habit for her.
* ''[[Neverwinter Nights]]'' has an example in the fan-made continuation of the main campaign Aribeth's Redemption: everyone (even Aribeth) seems to forget about her years of invaluable contribution to the city of Neverwinter and the fact that she barely damaged the city's surrounding territories at all during the Luskan war, all because she was mind-controlled into leading an enemy army to attack the city. Then again, this might be justified.
* In ''[[Sonic the Hedgehog (2006
** Ever since Knuckles was fooled into thinking Sonic was the bad guy in ''Sonic 3'' he has earned a reputation as a gullible idiot who will believe anything Eggman tells him. This has happened, to a far lesser degree in ''[[
** ''[[
*** Shadow even had a decidedly ''un-angsty'' line, giving off a riff Sonic would've been proud of. ''To Sonic himself''.
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** On a related case to Sonic, Dimps. This development studio made some nice [[Sonic Advance Trilogy
* [[The Legend of Zelda (Franchise)|Zelda]] is known for being kidnapped constantly, and apparently every game is based on this concept. This is not the case. Admittedly, while Zelda has been rescued in several games, she is often depicted as being able to take care of herself. The most famous Zelda game is arguably ''[[The Legend of Zelda
** She also [[The Legend of Zelda: Twilight Princess
** If one happens to run across a page that makes an example of ''[[The Legend of Zelda:
** [[The Legend of Zelda: Skyward Sword
* Veigue of ''[[
* [[Way Forward Technologies]] is better known for their oft-maligned launch period [[Nintendo DS]] messenger app release ''Ping Pals'' and [[The Problem
**
* ''[[Donkey Kong Country]]'' was, unfortunately, hyped just a little too much on its release, leading to key figures in the gaming industry slamming it, to the effect that even now it seems to be remembered as little more than a poor Mario imitator. As anyone who grew up actually playing it at the time can attest, this is quite wrong - it was a beautifully designed, addictive platformer with one of the best soundtracks to grace any game of any time period. And its first sequel was even better in all regards.
** During the peak of
** Unfortunately, game music composer Grant Kirkhope has run into this with the infamous "DK Rap," which served as the [[Theme Tune Rap]] for ''[[Donkey Kong 64]]''. However, Kirkhope has [https://web.archive.org/web/20130926160412/http://grantkirkhope.com/donkeykong64.html stated that], contrary to [[
▲** During the peak of [[Donkey Kong Country]]'s popularity, [[Shigeru Miyamoto]] famously complained that "players will put up with mediocre gameplay as long as the art is good." What he actually meant was that he was angry at his Nintendo bosses for [[Executive Meddling|interfering with his development of]] [[Yoshis Island]] [[Executive Meddling|by insisting that it mimic]] [[Donkey Kong Country]]'s [[Executive Meddling|visual style]]. Many took this to mean that Miyamoto believed the game itself was nothing more than eye-candy, and to this day you'll often hear people declare that Miyamoto hated [[Donkey Kong Country]].
* Nintendo will ALWAYS be considered the gaming patron saint of [[Bowdlerization]]. Never mind they have gotten past the [[Never Say "Die"]] point long ago, and how in fact they're the more LENIENT company nowadays, with games released on multiple systems having less censorship on Nintendo systems (or at least the same, but not MORE). Sure, they still censor some stuff every now and then, but no more than the others. Ironically, the most censor-happy company right now is ''Sony''. The same Sony who [[Informed Ability|supposedly]] is [[Darker and Edgier]] than Nintendo.
** Of note: Several of the entries for the [[Cluster F-Bomb]] [[Video Games]] page are on the Wii, including ''[[No More Heroes]]'', ''[[
** Even still, with Sony having titles like ''[[God of War (
** EVERY new Nintendo console game is a ''Mario'' game.
* Speaking of Nintendo, their official magazine in Spain, ''[[Nintendo Accion]]'' will ''always'' be considered to be extremely biased towards ''Pokémon''. During the height of the Pokémon craze they had Pokécovers nearly every month, but that's more [[Wolverine Publicity]] than actual bias. Same for having an extra mini-magazine focused on ''Pokémon''. Nowadays they don't cover them much more they cover ''Mario'' or ''Zelda'' games. In fact, if anything they have a ''Zelda'' bias, with all Zelda games getting huge scores without exception (and ''[[The Wind Waker]]'' getting the only perfect score so far), talking about the sagas as if it was super-popular everywhere (even on Japan, where, while not unpopular, [[Germans Love David Hasselhoff|is not THAT big compared to its Western fandom]]) and claim Link is the best character on all three ''[[Super Smash Bros.]]'' games (in the first and third, he's currently at the lowest tier of the [[Tier List]]. On ''Melee'' he's mid-tier), yet nobody accuses them of favoring the ''Zelda'' series.
* In-universe example; in [[Persona 4]], Yukiko's [[Enemy Without]] hosts a dating gameshow and mentions "scoring a hot stud". [[Become a Real Boy|Teddie]] has no idea what it means, but that doesn't stop him from bringing it up at almost every opportunity, even citing "scoring with girls" as one of his reasons for {{spoiler|wanting to stay as a human}}. Even Yukiko asks him to let it go after a while. And back to the fan's attitudes, you could come away from them with the impression that [[Jerk
* ''[[Genji]]'' series aren't known for its gameplay mechanics (other than the real time weapon change) and story due to having giant crabs in them.
* ''[[Guilty Gear]]'' is always going to be known as: "That game that gave us [[Wholesome Crossdresser|Bridget]]." Bridget was only one unique character out of many, and he wasn't introduced until the second sequel, but he's easily the most well known.
** Also, [[Unsettling Gender Reveal
* ''[[
** [[The Hero]] Ragna The Bloodedge is squarely a [[Jerk
** Jin Kisaragi started out as a psychopath [[Yandere]] of the brother-complex variety who only had his sights of Ragna. As the story progresses, we learned his relationship with Tsubaki Yayoi and he tremendously cared about her. In fact, post-CS, he made it his mission to save Tsubaki, making him look heroic. Fandom reaction? He's still and always will be the brother-crazed psycho [[Yandere]].
*** This impression is reinforced by the characterization ''Continuum Shift'' gives him. While it's in non-canon gag storylines, it's in at least three gag storylines. Not to mention in Teach Me Miss Litchi, too. [[Implausible Deniability|So, not entirely the fans' faults]] Arc Systems are milking this [[Running Gag]] for all it's worth.
** Litchi Faye-Ling is quite probably the most egregious one. She is all nice and caring to everyone she comes across, provided they're not evil and she does try her best to save Arakune. But one moment she unwillingly joined NOL as [[I Did What I Had to Do|the situation practically forced her to if she wants a shot in saving Arakune]], fans practically considered 'obsession' to be her whole personality, forgetting all the good things she did before (and thought they were just to facilitate her obsession) and mere association with NOL dooms her to be a [[Heel]] in many fans' eyes.
** Bang Shishigami also got a minor one going. Yes he once used to hate Jin Kisaragi. But in CS, he's shown to have unconditionally helped Jin and despite knowing that he killed his master, he knew Jin wasn't truly to blame and the true enemy is the system within NOL. So... how does fandom answer when asked on who the heck is Bang's [[Arch Enemy]]? Always will be Jin Kisaragi.
* The "Green Eyes" complaint from [[YouTube]] user ''AKnotholeResident'' is currently not being lived down by the [[Broken Base|broken]] [[Sonic the Hedgehog
** Not that the side that considers everyone who doesn't think that every modern ''Sonic'' game is crap to be either a kid or a Shadow fangirl is any better.
* A sizable majority of the ''[[
** Ash gets a whole lot of online flack for being the "racist" of the group. In reality, all she does is ask if letting non-Alliance personnel walk around their fleet's prototype ship is a good idea; individually, she treats her non-human teammates the same way she does everyone else. Compare Garrus's interactions with Wrex and Tali, or Tali's assertion that her people were perfectly justified in firing the first shot of their [[Robot War]].
** And ''[[Mass Effect 3]]'' didn't help either, since Ashley and Kaidan spend about half the game still doubting Shepard's motivations and loyalty at any chance they get. {{spoiler|At the middle of the game, when Cerberus stages a coup in the citadel, that trust issues may finally be resolved, or end up in the Virmire survivor's death, if the player cannot, or doesn't want to convince them.}} The fact one of them now has a higher rank than Shepard, and the other has the same, doesn't help either.
*** Although in fairness, Shepard was resurrected from the dead by a terrorist organisation, which they then proceeded to work for. Then shortly after severing ties with Cerberus, went and ''blew up an entire solar system''. From Ashley/Kaidan's point of view, distrusting Shepard actually is perfectly reasonable at this point.
*** Of course, there every other Alliance person you ask will support Shepard's motivations and actions, will understand the necessity of siding with Cerberus against the Collectors and will believe that Shepard is no longer with them as of the third game, even if they didn't know Shepard nearly as well. And by that point in the franchise, it's pretty much gotten to the point where 'Shepard has said this or done that, that it's probably a good idea to listen to him/her.'
** [[Mass Effect 2
** Try the series in general. You put in a couple of short (~20 seconds) and entirely optional sex scenes in the first game, and suddenly it's the focus of the whole series, [[Critical Research Failure|or so Fox News insisted]]. It's very rare where an article or discussion about ''Mass Effect'' or Bioware ''doesn't'' make reference to sex.
*** It doesn't help that the romances are the main area of concern for the active part of the fanbase. Bioware's just giving gamers what they want.
** In universe, spoken nearly word-for-word by Garrus regarding the turian Primarch in ''Mass Effect 3'', after it's discovered his son screws up a very important mission. {{spoiler|Ultimately subverted, though. The Primarch's son makes a [[Heroic Sacrifice]] that makes up for the screw-up}}.
* [[Silent Hill 2|James Sunderland]] has done many impressive things, like fight [[Implacable Man|Pyramid Head]] [[Crowning Moment of Awesome|and win]], but the one thing he is most remembered for is [[Idiot Ball|jumping into a large, dark abyss with no prompting]] towards the end of the game. From then on, any time a ''[[Silent Hill]]'' protagonist encounters a hole, players ask "What would James do?"
* Bethesda will never live down the Horse Armour debacle. Even [[Word of God|Todd Howard]] lampshaded it at E3 2011.
* Sony Online Entertainment will never live down the "New Game Enhancements" to ''[[
** Simiarlly, the Playstation Network will never be looked at the same way again thanks to Sony not handling the hacking incidents on its networks more swiftly, which caused the PSN to be down for almost a month.
* [[Super Mario
* Bianca Whitaker from ''[[
* If one were to mention the name [[CAVE]], the ONLY image that will pop into most gamers' minds is that of their infamous [[True Final Boss
* The only thing ever mentioned when ''[[Doom (
* Not to forget ''[[Zero Wing]]''. "[[Blind Idiot Translation|All your base are belong to us!]]"
* In-universe in ''[[Solatorobo]]'', protagonist Red finds out that [[Tagalong Kid]] Elh is scared of bugs. It becomes a [[Running Gag]] in the game. Elh even says "I'm never going to live this down, am I?" the first time the fact is discovered.
* As noted by YouTuber MattKC in his video about the [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3Bv19Aub3sA rare Japanese version] of ''[[LEGO Island]]'', PC gaming in Japan has had a rather seedy reputation due to it being more associated with [[Eroge]] and those so-called "H-games" than on mainstream, non-pornographic games. It probably didn't help that strict censorship on console games in the country has led adult game developers to publishing their smut to home computers, owing to the relatively open nature of both the IBM PC and indigenous home micro platforms in Japan such as the [[MSX]], PC-88 and 98 among others.
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