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** Depends. Are you talking to ponies?
*** Oh come on, I think it's cute.
** It doesn't matter. You're a troper. [[All Thethe Tropes Will Ruin Your Vocabulary|You're doomed anyway.]]
** Yes. Speaking as a non-brony here, we start to get creeped out when people start talking about ponies. Think of it this way - what do you do when you see a [[Star Trek]] fan speaking klingon? Yeah. It's kind of like that.
*** What's bad is that I don't see anything wrong with that, either.
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** One-off antagonists or semi-antagonists (Rainbow Dash's childhood bullies, the Diamond Dogs)
** Spike, whose competence varies between episodes.
** Ensemble Darkhorses like Big Macintosh or [[Fan Nickname|Dr. Whoof]] (Honestly, Big Mac is my favorite male character so far--mainly because he reminds me of [[Xiaolin Showdown (Animation)|Clay]]--in what few scenes he gets.)
** Snips and Snails, which...well, they're like Bulk and Skull, [[Your Mileage May Vary|only more annoying.]]
** and that's pretty much it. Just...what the hell? I'm not asking for the characters to talk about boys all the time, because I'm well aware that would ruin the show--but a good male character who gets more than just a few good scenes wouldn't be a bad thing either. Or hell, more than one.
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*** That's bad too, and it desperately needs to be fixed. However, two wrongs don't make a right. Personally, having just one decent male character with some kind of recurring role (but NOT a main role) would be sufficient.
**** Two wrongs don't make a right, but there's no wrong in making a show focusing on females. There's also no wrong in making a show focusing on males--but there is wrong in making ALL THE SHOWS focus on males, just as it would be wrong if every show on TV was about females. FIM is merely helping to correct the balance. There's room along the whole female-oriented side of the spectrum for more shows with differing gender balances, and FIM doesn't have to cover it all by itself.
*** In any case, most of the ''modern'' boys' shows I can name have at least one (though admittedly sometimes [[The Smurfette Principle|only one]]) recurring female character ([[The Fairly Odd Parents]] has Wanda, [[SpongebobSpongeBob SquarePants]] has Sandy, [[Avatar: The Last Airbender]] was packed to the gills with them, etc.). That said, I don't really think more than one main male character suits the show, given that it's supposed to focus on girls' friendships; would ''[[Stand Byby Me]]'' have been improved by adding a girl or two to the main cast? Probably not. However, I think Big Mac deserves at least [[A Day in Thethe Limelight]].
** Faust did want more male characters, but it's one of the few things Hasbro didnt allow. I'd like to think however, that the gender ultimately doesn't matter that much anyway. Any of the mane six could be a boy (colt?) and would still be the same character.
*** Except that reaction to them would be much ''much'' different. If Rarity were male, he'd be seen as a flaming homosexual and [[Moral Guardians]] would scream about a gay character in a show targeted at kids. If Fluttershy were male, he wouldn't be "Cute", he'd be seen as annoying and bratty. And likewise, Applejack as a male would be seen as a "Walking Stereotype", even though Applejack is a Walking Stereotype enough as is. Rainbow Dash as a male would be seen as a musclehead, and Pinkie Pie would have been seen as annoying or like Rarity, a flaming homosexual.
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* Look I think it's great that a show can have a Periphery Fandom, and that people can look past a show being too fit for the opposite gender, but I just have to say as an outsider, just how on earth did this show get the massive Periphery Fandom it has? Most of my male friends on [[Deviant ART]] are in ''love'' with this show, and I haven't met a single girl who's admitted to watching it. I don't think it's bad, just confusing and I'd like an answer is all. On top of that, this show is relatively new, and it's already skyrocketing! And it has its own [[Ensemble Darkhorse]] page, which having so many kind of goes against the spirit of the trope (in which one or few characters are singled out as favorites).
** There are plenty of adult female fans. They're just not usually as vocal (and remember the old outdated rule that [[There Are No Girls Onon the Internet]]). Examples off the top of my head: one of the three admins of Equestria Daily (Phoe) is a girl. Also, several of the fanartists (Madmax, most notably), the creator of [[Friendship Is Witchcraft]] (Jenny Nicholson), and more than a few of random internet commenters and cosplayers. Plus, this troper has personally converted some girls to bronydom.
** The show has so many Ensemble Darkhorses because a lot of background characters who get few or no lines end up getting fan followings, which is why they're considered darkhorses. As to why the show's fandom is so huge... There are a ton of factors that could be the reason, and it's likely a combination of them all. For one, nobody expected the show to be any good. So when it turned out to actually be good, people really took off with it. There's the matter of the [[Girl Show Ghetto]]: Friendship is Magic is extremely rare in that it averts it. Some people also have the theory that a lot of bronies wanted to be into girly stuff like FIM when they were younger but were pushed away from it, and as a result they really latch onto the show, but I don't know if that theory holds much water. Another might be big potential for fan art, it's a hell of a lot of fun to draw different characters from other media (or even yourself!) as ponies. Mostly, though, the show is just really, really good, and internet communities love getting together over TV shows they love.
 
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* I'm just curious, how come when I looked this page up with your search feature the image next to it was a photo of some creepy man who judging by his shirt style might be from [[Star Trek]]?
** I'm not sure how the image system works, but the (tenuous) connection seems to be that [[Star Trek: theThe Next Generation|Q]] was played by [[John De Lancie]], who [[Actor Allusion|went on to voice Discord]].
*** So why is he the page thumbnail? He's not on the page.
*** *shrug* Probably just a glitch.
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*** With the exeption of muzzle shape, a pony's gender can often be assumed by the way they're dressed or, in a lot of cases, even ''if'' they are. Males tend to wear vests or something similar on their "chest" area, females generally don't wear clothing unless they're being fancy.
*** Or, we're just used to seeing the same "club" of 6 ponies who just don't have any male friends. If you focused on filming 6 average not-quite-mature acting girls who were still in the stage of development where they weren't interested in boys other than a little distant crush (or, well, Sex and the City, but that might just be the same maturity level), guys would always be the background characters.
*** Referring to the above... it's [[Azumanga Daioh (Manga)|Azupony Daioh!]]
** There are actually quite a few male ponies. Look in the background of any large group scene and you'll see them. Not to mention, Hoity Toity is a male pony and definitely not doing manual labour, and a lot of the ponies in the Galloping Gala scene seem to be upper class male ponies. And in the Sonic Rainboom episode, there are quite a few male ponies working at the weather factory.
** It rather seems like the animators use the generic female pony model as a default for random extras. For that reason, this ''can'' be easy to miss, as the female model comes to look like the standard, so that it makes you think "a pony" rather than "a female pony". Anyway, Faust has mentioned "there probably [not being] enough boys around to portray a realistic society" as one result of [[Executive Meddling]].
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** The CMC didn't appear until episode 14 or so, give it time, there is still plenty of episodes for a monster to come and ruin everyone's day.
 
* So, [[Rhymes Onon a Dime|Princess Celestia is the ruler of Equestria]], right? Well, doesn't that technically make her a queen, not a princess?
** [[Word of God]] is that Celestia and Luna were supposed to be queens, but Hasbro said that they should be princesses because kids associate queens with evil and princesses with good. In-universe, it might have something to do with the fact that the two sisters rule together.
** She's the absolute leader, and a goddess too, she can call herself whatever she likes.
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