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Thus was born ''Super Robot Wars Original Generation'' (OG1), released for the [[Game Boy Advance]]. Featuring a couple dozen original pilots created from ''[[Super Robot Wars Alpha]]'' and prior (but strangely no Masou Kishin entries aside from Masaki Andoh, Lune Zoldark and Shu Shirakawa, although that's all the first Alpha title ever offers), its plot involves the Divine Crusaders War from ''[[Super Robot Wars 2]]'' and the initial stages of the Balmar War in ''[[Super Robot Wars Alpha]]'', but without all those other distractions provided by the [[Neon Genesis Evangelion|Angels]], [[Macross|Zentraedi]], [[Gunbuster|Uchuu Kaiju/STMC]], and so forth (the United Colony Corps plays the role of [[Mobile Suit Gundam|The Duchy of Zeon]]). But wait, you ask: "didn't Alpha have all sorts of corrupt politicians and enemy pilots to impede our heroes Banpresto hasn't made [[Expy|expys]] of yet?" Well, yes, and they exist ''now'' - a good third or so of the ''Original Generation'' cast is comprised of these sorts of people (and a couple of the heroes, even) [[Original Generation|created just for this timeline]].
Thus was born ''Super Robot Wars Original Generation'' (OG1), released for the [[Game Boy Advance]]. Featuring a couple dozen original pilots created from ''[[Super Robot Wars Alpha]]'' and prior (but strangely no Masou Kishin entries aside from Masaki Andoh, Lune Zoldark and Shu Shirakawa, although that's all the first Alpha title ever offers), its plot involves the Divine Crusaders War from ''[[Super Robot Wars 2]]'' and the initial stages of the Balmar War in ''[[Super Robot Wars Alpha]]'', but without all those other distractions provided by the [[Neon Genesis Evangelion|Angels]], [[Macross|Zentraedi]], [[Gunbuster|Uchuu Kaiju/STMC]], and so forth (the United Colony Corps plays the role of [[Mobile Suit Gundam|The Duchy of Zeon]]). But wait, you ask: "didn't Alpha have all sorts of corrupt politicians and enemy pilots to impede our heroes Banpresto hasn't made [[Expy|expys]] of yet?" Well, yes, and they exist ''now'' - a good third or so of the ''Original Generation'' cast is comprised of these sorts of people (and a couple of the heroes, even) [[Original Generation|created just for this timeline]].


Nearly three years and several mainline SRW games later, Banpresto wheeled out ''Super Robot Wars Original Generation 2'' (OG2) for the Game Boy Advance, which makes the cast EVEN BIGGER with new additions from the interim games. This time around, the plot finishes the part of the [[Mid-Season Upgrade]] of the first ''Alpha'' game, the Machinery Children of ''Alpha Gaiden'', as well as part of Arado Balanga's story and a prologue of Ibis Douglas' story from ''Alpha 2'', but the primary focus of the story is the Einst of ''[[Super Robot Wars Compact 2|Super Robot Wars Compact 2/Impact]]'', the Shadow-Mirror of ''[[Super Robot Wars Advance]]'', and the Inspectors of ''[[Super Robot Wars 3]]''. The game also introduces an original plot, combining part of Arado's tale with the story of a character introduced in OG1, as [[Tyke Bomb]] ex-students of a harsh training school.
Nearly three years and several mainline SRW games later, Banpresto wheeled out ''Super Robot Wars Original Generation 2'' (OG2) for the Game Boy Advance, which makes the cast EVEN BIGGER with new additions from the interim games. This time around, the plot finishes the part of the [[Mid-Season Upgrade]] of the first ''Alpha'' game, the Machinery Children of ''Alpha Gaiden'', as well as part of Arado Balanga's story and a prologue of Ibis Douglas' story from ''Alpha 2'', but the primary focus of the story is the Einst of ''[[Super Robot Wars Compact 2|Super Robot Wars Compact 2/Impact]]'', the Shadow-Mirror of ''[[Super Robot Wars Advance]]'', and the Inspectors of ''[[Super Robot Wars 3]]''. The game also introduces an original plot, combining part of Arado's tale with the story of a character introduced in OG1, as [[Tyke Bomb]] ex-students of a harsh training school.


But even THAT wasn't enough, so just before their absorption into [[Namco Bandai]], Banpresto combined both GBA games into a [[Video Game Remake]] for the [[PlayStation 2]] called ''Super Robot Wars OG: Original Generations'' (OGs) and gave it all the bells and whistles of a full console-sized SRW, plus 7 missions spanning six months between the original games AND an "OG2.5 Unified Wisdom" scenario based on the semi-sequel [[OVA]] - both of which introduce EVEN MORE "[[Fan Nickname|Banpresto Originals]]" and sets the stage for ''Super Robot Wars Original Generation Gaiden'' (OG Gaiden), a [[Gaiden Game]] sequel expanding on the "2.5" missions into an entire story by combining them with the plots of ''[[Super Robot Wars Compact 3]]'', ''[[Super Robot Wars Reversal]]'' and a few characters from Banpresto's earlier ''The Great Battle'' series on the [[Super Famicom]]. Like the previous games, it also forms a prologue to ''[[Super Robot Wars MX]]''.
But even THAT wasn't enough, so just before their absorption into [[Namco Bandai]], Banpresto combined both GBA games into a [[Video Game Remake]] for the [[PlayStation 2]] called ''Super Robot Wars OG: Original Generations'' (OGs) and gave it all the bells and whistles of a full console-sized SRW, plus 7 missions spanning six months between the original games AND an "OG2.5 Unified Wisdom" scenario based on the semi-sequel [[OVA]] - both of which introduce EVEN MORE "[[Fan Nickname|Banpresto Originals]]" and sets the stage for ''Super Robot Wars Original Generation Gaiden'' (OG Gaiden), a [[Gaiden Game]] sequel expanding on the "2.5" missions into an entire story by combining them with the plots of ''[[Super Robot Wars Compact 3]]'', ''[[Super Robot Wars Reversal]]'' and a few characters from Banpresto's earlier ''The Great Battle'' series on the [[Super Famicom]]. Like the previous games, it also forms a prologue to ''[[Super Robot Wars MX]]''.


Oh, and then there's the [[Gaiden Game]] spin-off ''Super Robot Wars OG Saga''. The first game, ''[[Endless Frontier]]'' for the [[Nintendo DS]], is a different beast entirely, since it's a conventional [[Eastern RPG]] rather than a [[Turn-Based Strategy]] like all of the above, featuring [[Expy|expys]] upon [[Expy|expys]] (sometimes, OF [[Expy|expys]]), an [[Action Commands|Action Command-based]] combat system revolving around massive juggling combos ([[Fan Service|among]] [[Gag Boobs|other]] [[Hurricane of Puns|things]]), and [[Xenosaga|KOS-MOS and T-ELOS]]. For those who played ''[[Namco X Capcom]]'', they get to see Reiji Arisu and Xiaomu again; for those who [[No Export for You|haven't]], [[Marth Debuted in Smash Bros|well... now they have]]. It takes place in a group of [[Another Dimension|connected worlds]] called the [[The Place|Endless]] [[Exactly What It Says on the Tin|Frontier]], with the lives of the inhabitants shaped by the events of OG2. It's followed by a sequel ''Endless Frontier EXCEED'', which itself has ties to the ending of OG Gaiden, as well as incorporating a couple of characters from the main series. The third OG Saga game is ''Masou Kishin: Lord of Elemental'', a remake of ''[[Super Robot Wars Gaiden]]'' (technically the first all-original SRW) that (re)incorporates its story into Original Generation canon.
Oh, and then there's the [[Gaiden Game]] spin-off ''Super Robot Wars OG Saga''. The first game, ''[[Endless Frontier]]'' for the [[Nintendo DS]], is a different beast entirely, since it's a conventional [[Eastern RPG]] rather than a [[Turn-Based Strategy]] like all of the above, featuring [[Expy|expys]] upon [[Expy|expys]] (sometimes, OF [[Expy|expys]]), an [[Action Commands|Action Command-based]] combat system revolving around massive juggling combos ([[Fan Service|among]] [[Gag Boobs|other]] [[Hurricane of Puns|things]]), and [[Xenosaga|KOS-MOS and T-ELOS]]. For those who played ''[[Namco X Capcom]]'', they get to see Reiji Arisu and Xiaomu again; for those who [[No Export for You|haven't]], [[Marth Debuted in Smash Bros|well... now they have]]. It takes place in a group of [[Another Dimension|connected worlds]] called the [[The Place|Endless]] [[Exactly What It Says on the Tin|Frontier]], with the lives of the inhabitants shaped by the events of OG2. It's followed by a sequel ''Endless Frontier EXCEED'', which itself has ties to the ending of OG Gaiden, as well as incorporating a couple of characters from the main series. The third OG Saga game is ''Masou Kishin: Lord of Elemental'', a remake of ''[[Super Robot Wars Gaiden]]'' (technically the first all-original SRW) that (re)incorporates its story into Original Generation canon.


The series has gone full-circle with three [[Animated Adaptation|Animated Adaptations]]: a three-part OVA whose events were rolled into OG Gaiden, "Divine Wars", a re-telling of the first game, and "The Inspector", which covers the second game. There is also a manga adaptation: "Record of ATX", which goes through the first game from Kyosuke's point of view.
The series has gone full-circle with three [[Animated Adaptation|Animated Adaptations]]: a three-part OVA whose events were rolled into OG Gaiden, "Divine Wars", a re-telling of the first game, and "The Inspector", which covers the second game. There is also a manga adaptation: "Record of ATX", which goes through the first game from Kyosuke's point of view.


As of August 2011, nearly 7 years after OG2 was released on the Gameboy Advance, the TRUE non-[[Gaiden Game]], non-remake sequel has been announced. Entitled ''The Second Super Robot Wars Original Generation'', it will be the first SRW to be released on the [[PlayStation 3]]. According to initial scans, the story will expand the ''Alpha 2'' plotlines of Kusuha Mizuha's and Ibis' into Original Generation, as well as concluding the MX saga. In addition, Joshua Radcliffe and Cliana Rimskaya of ''[[Super Robot Wars Destiny]]'', Ariel Org and Duvan Org of ''Real Robot Regiment'' and Ing Egret from the ''Alpha 2'' side-story manga ''Lost Children'', and a brand new character (currently enemy), a black haired, black leotard-wearing woman named Aamara, piloting a custom Huckebein, will be the new entrants into the series. From a mecha standpoint, they finally included RyuKoOh and KoRyuOh's brother machines JakuBuOh and BuJakuOh, although who are piloting them remain a mystery. Additionally, the game cover features the RaiOh from ''Alpha 3'', yet a villainous AI-controlled [[Super Prototype]] appears, whose objective is the destruction of the other Dynamic General Guardian [[Super Robot|super robots]]. Its name? The ''[[Continuity Nod|Jin]][[Mythology Gag|Rai]]''.
As of August 2011, nearly 7 years after OG2 was released on the Gameboy Advance, the TRUE non-[[Gaiden Game]], non-remake sequel has been announced. Entitled ''The Second Super Robot Wars Original Generation'', it will be the first SRW to be released on the [[PlayStation 3]]. According to initial scans, the story will expand the ''Alpha 2'' plotlines of Kusuha Mizuha's and Ibis' into Original Generation, as well as concluding the MX saga. In addition, Joshua Radcliffe and Cliana Rimskaya of ''[[Super Robot Wars Destiny]]'', Ariel Org and Duvan Org of ''Real Robot Regiment'' and Ing Egret from the ''Alpha 2'' side-story manga ''Lost Children'', and a brand new character (currently enemy), a black haired, black leotard-wearing woman named Aamara, piloting a custom Huckebein, will be the new entrants into the series. From a mecha standpoint, they finally included RyuKoOh and KoRyuOh's brother machines JakuBuOh and BuJakuOh, although who are piloting them remain a mystery. Additionally, the game cover features the RaiOh from ''Alpha 3'', yet a villainous AI-controlled [[Super Prototype]] appears, whose objective is the destruction of the other Dynamic General Guardian [[Super Robot|super robots]]. Its name? The ''[[Continuity Nod|Jin]][[Mythology Gag|Rai]]''.
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* [[Damsel in Distress]]: At least one in every game, but Kusuha stands out, in heavy contrast to her complete (but still gentle) [[Action Girl]] self in the Alpha series. To sum it up, it won't be complete if Kusuha doesn't get kidnapped in any way, even when she's not the main [[Damsel in Distress]] (she was this in OG1, then Excellen takes the mantle for the sequel, which later gets passed to Lamia in OG Gaiden. Kusuha always find her way to get kidnapped amongst those times).
* [[Damsel in Distress]]: At least one in every game, but Kusuha stands out, in heavy contrast to her complete (but still gentle) [[Action Girl]] self in the Alpha series. To sum it up, it won't be complete if Kusuha doesn't get kidnapped in any way, even when she's not the main [[Damsel in Distress]] (she was this in OG1, then Excellen takes the mantle for the sequel, which later gets passed to Lamia in OG Gaiden. Kusuha always find her way to get kidnapped amongst those times).
** Though this is subverted in the GBA OG2: Kusuha was NEVER kidnapped there. Then the bonus missions from OG2 portion of OGs comes along...
** Though this is subverted in the GBA OG2: Kusuha was NEVER kidnapped there. Then the bonus missions from OG2 portion of OGs comes along...
** Not to mention all three get [[Brainwashed]] in the kidnappings, and with Alpha 2's story looming, we'll probably see {{spoiler|Brooklyn "Bullet" Luckfield's}} time to be the [[Brainwashed]] [[James Bondage]]. Is it any wonder why the ATX Team is so prone to become such bait for the villains?
** Not to mention all three get [[Brainwashed]] in the kidnappings, and with Alpha 2's story looming, we'll probably see {{spoiler|Brooklyn "Bullet" Luckfield's}} time to be the [[Brainwashed]] [[James Bondage]]. Is it any wonder why the ATX Team is so prone to become such bait for the villains?
** But considering once they rescue all of them and are still usable and kick major butt, they're more like [[Badass in Distress|Badasses In Distress]]...except maybe Shine (who eventually [[Took a Level In Badass]] to rectify her situation).
** But considering once they rescue all of them and are still usable and kick major butt, they're more like [[Badass in Distress|Badasses In Distress]]...except maybe Shine (who eventually [[Took a Level In Badass]] to rectify her situation).
* [[Deconstruction]]: Believe it or not OG1 did this to [[Super Robot|Super Robots]]: instead of ultimate machines that run on willpower alone, all supers are treated as considerably stronger [[Real Robot|Real Robots]] that run on feasible Earth technology and dynamics. This is later reconstructed in the sequel, with the introduction of the Choukijin. It isn't until the appearance of Fighter Roar and his Compatible Kaiser that we get classic [[Super Robot]].
* [[Deconstruction]]: Believe it or not OG1 did this to [[Super Robot|Super Robots]]: instead of ultimate machines that run on willpower alone, all supers are treated as considerably stronger [[Real Robot|Real Robots]] that run on feasible Earth technology and dynamics. This is later reconstructed in the sequel, with the introduction of the Choukijin. It isn't until the appearance of Fighter Roar and his Compatible Kaiser that we get classic [[Super Robot]].
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*** ''RyuKoOh Denki'', a story [[Epileptic Trees|supposedly]] set centuries before Original Generation regarding the Choukijin and various ancestors of the present day cast. Is used as a frequent [[Mythology Gag]] throughout the main series. Will be re-released in 2011 under the "OG Saga" heading.
*** ''RyuKoOh Denki'', a story [[Epileptic Trees|supposedly]] set centuries before Original Generation regarding the Choukijin and various ancestors of the present day cast. Is used as a frequent [[Mythology Gag]] throughout the main series. Will be re-released in 2011 under the "OG Saga" heading.
* [[Determinator]]: Axel's king of this trope, while most of the other villains are pretty dedicated to "taking you down like Han Solo", and the good guys when sufficiently pissed.
* [[Determinator]]: Axel's king of this trope, while most of the other villains are pretty dedicated to "taking you down like Han Solo", and the good guys when sufficiently pissed.
** Kyosuke proves to be a match to Axel in terms of shear determination. Naturally, they're also rivals.
** Kyosuke proves to be a match to Axel in terms of shear determination. Naturally, they're also rivals.
** The in-game ''Resolve'' Spirit Command, which allows pilots to ignore negative status effects like being "Webbed" for that turn, assuming they aren't "Stunned", which prevents them from doing anything.
** The in-game ''Resolve'' Spirit Command, which allows pilots to ignore negative status effects like being "Webbed" for that turn, assuming they aren't "Stunned", which prevents them from doing anything.
* [[Divergent Character Evolution]]: Kusuha and Bullet may be Alpha's recurring stars, but the other six Alpha originals get a fair share of the spotlight here.
* [[Divergent Character Evolution]]: Kusuha and Bullet may be Alpha's recurring stars, but the other six Alpha originals get a fair share of the spotlight here.
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* [[Half-Identical Twins]]: Raul/Fiona Gureden of Reversal gets turned into this rather than [[Road Cone]]-ing either choice.
* [[Half-Identical Twins]]: Raul/Fiona Gureden of Reversal gets turned into this rather than [[Road Cone]]-ing either choice.
* [[Harder Than Hard]]: Aside from earning "Battle Masteries" to increase the overall game difficulty, an additional EX-Hard mode upon completion lets players face tougher enemies on a second run, with restricted or outright locked options for upgrading units and pilots.
* [[Harder Than Hard]]: Aside from earning "Battle Masteries" to increase the overall game difficulty, an additional EX-Hard mode upon completion lets players face tougher enemies on a second run, with restricted or outright locked options for upgrading units and pilots.
* [[The Hero's Journey]]: Ryusei's storyline conforms fairly well with the Campbellian archetype.
* [[Hero's Journey]]: Ryusei's storyline conforms fairly well with the Campbellian archetype.
* [[Hot-Blooded]]: Overloaded, especially when a character's inside [http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8FBYA4P7NDw&fmt=18 the Gespenst MK II Type-S].
* [[Hot-Blooded]]: Overloaded, especially when a character's inside [http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8FBYA4P7NDw&fmt=18 the Gespenst MK II Type-S].
* [[Humans Are Bastards]]: The Inspectors describe the Earthlings as this, as well as the [[Cosmic Horror|Einst]])
* [[Humans Are Bastards]]: The Inspectors describe the Earthlings as this, as well as the [[Cosmic Horror|Einst]])
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* [[No Fourth Wall]]: At least in the localization, the Inspectors are prone to [[Breaking the Fourth Wall]]. When you beat them in a supposedly unbeatable scenario, one of the Inspectors stays silent at the predicament, then asks the gamer, "What, you want me to say anything? OK, OK. Good job". OGs adds this further in one of the "Save-Quit" dialogues, where Gilliam asks the same thing and ends up promoting ''Hero Senki'', the game where he made his first debut. In fact, the whole Save-Quit dialogues are full of [[Fourth Wall]] breaking dialogues (including Shu lying about "saving more times will make the game more difficult!")
* [[No Fourth Wall]]: At least in the localization, the Inspectors are prone to [[Breaking the Fourth Wall]]. When you beat them in a supposedly unbeatable scenario, one of the Inspectors stays silent at the predicament, then asks the gamer, "What, you want me to say anything? OK, OK. Good job". OGs adds this further in one of the "Save-Quit" dialogues, where Gilliam asks the same thing and ends up promoting ''Hero Senki'', the game where he made his first debut. In fact, the whole Save-Quit dialogues are full of [[Fourth Wall]] breaking dialogues (including Shu lying about "saving more times will make the game more difficult!")
** In OG2, when you get the {{spoiler|[[Spell My Name with an "S"|DyGenGuar/Daizengar]]}} and the Chapter 30 title pops up.
** In OG2, when you get the {{spoiler|[[Spell My Name with an "S"|DyGenGuar/Daizengar]]}} and the Chapter 30 title pops up.
** ''The Inspectors'' doesn't fail to continue the tradition -- after being soundly "Trombe'd" by Ratsel Feinschmecker in episode 9, Vigagi managed to [http://img201.imageshack.us/img201/5315/4thwall.jpg grab the edge of the frame with Ratsel in it] and push it off the screen in his frustration.
** ''The Inspectors'' doesn't fail to continue the tradition -- after being soundly "Trombe'd" by Ratsel Feinschmecker in episode 9, Vigagi managed to [http://img201.imageshack.us/img201/5315/4thwall.jpg grab the edge of the frame with Ratsel in it] and push it off the screen in his frustration.
* [[Original Generation]]: [[Trope Namer]] and possibly the [[Trope Codifier|codifying example in fiction]], due to its sheer numbers.
* [[Original Generation]]: [[Trope Namer]] and possibly the [[Trope Codifier|codifying example in fiction]], due to its sheer numbers.
* [[Pettanko]]: [[Department of Redundancy Department|Poor Ibis]].
* [[Pettanko]]: [[Department of Redundancy Department|Poor Ibis]].
* [[Playboy Bunny]]: Excellen and Garnet dress up once for the male crew's viewing pleasure. Hell, it even becomes a ''plot point'' in OG2.
* [[Playboy Bunny]]: Excellen and Garnet dress up once for the male crew's viewing pleasure. Hell, it even becomes a ''plot point'' in OG2.
** This comes full circle in Divine Wars, when Captain Lefina Enfield is goaded into doing so. Cue [[Male Gaze]], [[Nosebleed]] and [[Spit Take]]. [http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=89U20jHAXqE It's priceless...]
** This comes full circle in Divine Wars, when Captain Lefina Enfield is goaded into doing so. Cue [[Male Gaze]], [[Nosebleed]] and [[Spit Take]]. [http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=89U20jHAXqE It's priceless...]
*** This even gets a reaction out of [[The Stoic|Kyosuke]], of all people. His [[Eye Take|WTF face]] is hilarious.
*** This even gets a reaction out of [[The Stoic|Kyosuke]], of all people. His [[Eye Take|WTF face]] is hilarious.
* [[The Power of Love]]: And what a power! Event-driven scenarios with [[Battle Couple|Battle Couples]] arguably uses this to extremes.
* [[The Power of Love]]: And what a power! Event-driven scenarios with [[Battle Couple|Battle Couples]] arguably uses this to extremes.
** In-game, the ''Love'' Spirit Command's likely the most powerful available. While it uses most of the pilot's Spirit Points, it gives them all the "major" commands at a heavily discounted cost compared to if you used each individually.
** In-game, the ''Love'' Spirit Command's likely the most powerful available. While it uses most of the pilot's Spirit Points, it gives them all the "major" commands at a heavily discounted cost compared to if you used each individually.
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* [[Shoot the Shaggy Dog]]: Pretty much {{spoiler|Lamia's}} part in 2.5 Unified Wisdom (which is all you get if you only play OGs), before getting into the proper story told in OG Gaiden.
* [[Shoot the Shaggy Dog]]: Pretty much {{spoiler|Lamia's}} part in 2.5 Unified Wisdom (which is all you get if you only play OGs), before getting into the proper story told in OG Gaiden.
* [[Shout-Out]]: TONS.
* [[Shout-Out]]: TONS.
** In ''The Inspector'', the two pilots of Aguila's mech (Sol [[Gravion|Gravilion]]) are Touga and Eiji with different hair colors.
** In ''The Inspector'', the two pilots of Aguila's mech (Sol [[Gravion|Gravilion]]) are Touga and Eiji with different hair colors.
*** One of ''Gravion's'' bunnies also appears in the same role in an episode.
*** One of ''Gravion's'' bunnies also appears in the same role in an episode.
** The "one more hit" lines in ''The Inspector'' animated are obviously a shout out to the gameplay, where after doing numerous powerful attacks, the player still finds himself needing to execute one more attack to finish off the opposing unit. {{spoiler|The finale lampshades it some more when the heroes split into smaller groups, where each team gangs up on an Einst doppelganger.}}
** The "one more hit" lines in ''The Inspector'' animated are obviously a shout out to the gameplay, where after doing numerous powerful attacks, the player still finds himself needing to execute one more attack to finish off the opposing unit. {{spoiler|The finale lampshades it some more when the heroes split into smaller groups, where each team gangs up on an Einst doppelganger.}}