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* [[Artistic License Law]]: Fighteer's belief that casually adding a non-negotiable, unilateral (and implicitly ''retroactive'') claim to all contributors' copyrights to [https://web.archive.org/web/20140122054355/http://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/Administrivia/WelcomeToTVTropes the TVT Admninistrivia page] in 2012 was both legal and an appropriate response to contributor questions about their license status. Fortunately, the new management actually consulted a real lawyer about this in 2015 and backpedaled on it so quickly they left skid marks - even so, both this and the license changes previously discussed (see [[And Stay Out!]] above) have caused All The Tropes in particular to adopt a strict anti-plagiarism policy that disallows copying from TV Tropes ''unless'' the editor in question is importing changes that they made.
* [[Artistic License Law]]: Fighteer's belief that casually adding a non-negotiable, unilateral (and implicitly ''retroactive'') claim to all contributors' copyrights to [https://web.archive.org/web/20140122054355/http://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/Administrivia/WelcomeToTVTropes the TVT Admninistrivia page] in 2012 was both legal and an appropriate response to contributor questions about their license status. Fortunately, the new management actually consulted a real lawyer about this in 2015 and backpedaled on it so quickly they left skid marks - even so, both this and the license changes previously discussed (see [[And Stay Out!]] above) have caused All The Tropes in particular to adopt a strict anti-plagiarism policy that disallows copying from TV Tropes ''unless'' the editor in question is importing changes that they made.
* [[Author Appeal]]:
* [[Author Appeal]]:
** It spawned from a fan-site for a [[Joss Whedon]] TV series. Tropes like [[Big Damn Heroes]] can be traced back to Whedon's work.
** TV Tropes spawned from a fan-site for a [[Joss Whedon]] TV series, and many tropes like [[Big Damn Heroes]] can be traced back to Whedon's work (which is one of the many influences All The Tropes inherited).
** TV Tropes really likes [[The Nostalgia Critic]] (and its spin-offs). As the [[Colbert Bump]] pages notes, it took only an hour after his ''[[All Dogs Go to Heaven]]'' review was posted for the [[Non Sequitur Scene]] page to be created (under the name inspired by the review, "Big-Lipped Alligator Moment").
** TV Tropes really liked [[The Nostalgia Critic]] and its spin-offs once upon the time. As the [[Colbert Bump]] pages notes, it took only an hour after his ''[[All Dogs Go to Heaven]]'' review was posted for the [[Non Sequitur Scene]] page to be created (under the name inspired by the review, "Big-Lipped Alligator Moment").
** ''[[BlazBlue]]'' is pretty over-represented on their ''Pantheon'' (basically a place for them to gush about their favorite characters) for what is basically a niche mix of [[Fighting Game]] and [[Visual Novel]]. The only character from Calamity Trigger who is not a ''god'' is [[Genius Bruiser|Iron Tager]].
** ''[[BlazBlue]]'' was pretty over-represented on their ''Pantheon'' (basically a place for users to gush about their favorite characters) even by the standards of a surprisingly-popular mix of [[Fighting Game]] and [[Visual Novel]]. <!--The only character from Calamity Trigger who is not a ''god'' is [[Genius Bruiser|Iron Tager]]. (Is that still true?)-->
* [[Beige Prose]]: The [[Laconic]] pages.
* [[Beige Prose]]: The [[Laconic]] pages.
* [[Big Lie]]: The efforts made by the Fast Eddie-headed administration to convince TVT users that All The Tropes and other legally-forked troping wikis somehow constituted [[Plagiarism]], that they were [[Troll]] sites, ''and'' their staff and users focused on salacious material to the exclusion of all else can be considered this.
* [[Big Lie]]: The efforts made by the Fast Eddie-headed administration to convince TVT users that All The Tropes and other legally-forked troping wikis somehow constituted [[Plagiarism]], that they were [[Troll]] sites, ''and'' their staff and users focused on salacious material to the exclusion of all else can be considered this.
* [[Blatant Lies]]: Many users have since come to regard statements concerning [[Troper's Law (Darth Wiki)|users' ability to "disagree with the site's editorial or administrative policies"]] as this.
* [[Blatant Lies]]: Many users have since come to regard Second Google Incident-era statements concerning [[Troper's Law (Darth Wiki)|users' ability to "disagree with the site's editorial or administrative policies"]] as this.
** Oh, that's perfectly true. You're only banned from the wiki if you ''admit'' it.
*** When your editing rights are removed, the message you get once you try to edit a page claims it's not a punishment when it's anything but one as it prevents a person from contributing even if the only reason given is them having consistently having minor mistakes that makes their stuff look "not neat", pointing this lie out will bring harsher punishment like a total site ban or more childishly in one example forcing the person to redirect to google when they try to access the site.
* [[Breaking the Fourth Wall]]/[[Leaning on the Fourth Wall]]: An editor of the site will often introduce themselves as "[[This Troper]]". This is frowned upon for examples both there and on here.
* [[Breaking the Fourth Wall]]/[[Leaning on the Fourth Wall]]: An editor of the site will often introduce themselves as "[[This Troper]]". This is frowned upon for examples both there and on here.
* [[Censorship Bureau]]:
* [[Censorship Bureau]]:
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* [[Exactly What It Says on the Tin]]: Some of the trope titles, and increasing every day. These are listed in the [[Index of Exact Trope Titles]].
* [[Exactly What It Says on the Tin]]: Some of the trope titles, and increasing every day. These are listed in the [[Index of Exact Trope Titles]].
* [[Guilt Trip]]: As of 2021, TV Tropes detects some forms of ad-blocking and automatically displays banners reading "This is page #X you have viewed this month without ads. We get it, ads aren't what you're here for, but they do pay for the hosting and maintenance of TV Tropes. Please whitelist us or purchase an ad-free pass to support TV Tropes." This is a considerable improvement over a previous tactic, which was to refuse to show any content whatsoever until you relented and disabled your ad-blocking - both of which are symptoms of a larger internet-wide trend across various websites attempting to maintain their ad revenue.
* [[Guilt Trip]]: As of 2021, TV Tropes detects some forms of ad-blocking and automatically displays banners reading "This is page #X you have viewed this month without ads. We get it, ads aren't what you're here for, but they do pay for the hosting and maintenance of TV Tropes. Please whitelist us or purchase an ad-free pass to support TV Tropes." This is a considerable improvement over a previous tactic, which was to refuse to show any content whatsoever until you relented and disabled your ad-blocking - both of which are symptoms of a larger internet-wide trend across various websites attempting to maintain their ad revenue.
* [[Hair-Trigger Temper]]: Moderator Fighteer is known for this, especially towards those who have been suspended for any reasons. Fighteer himself has admitted that he's like this to keep "troublemakers" in line and to intimidate trolls - he's been known to define "troublemaker" as anyone who disgrees with him, even long-standing members of the wiki.
* [[Hair-Trigger Temper]]: Moderator Fighteer is known for this, especially towards those who have been suspended for any reasons. Fighteer himself has admitted that he's like this to keep "troublemakers" in line and to intimidate trolls - he's been known to define "troublemaker" as anyone who disagrees with him, even long-standing members of the wiki. It's gotten to the point that he's retired from moderation as of December 2022, with even his critics expressing hopes that he'll come back with a clearer head (and thus end up much less ban-happy).
* [[Hive Mind]]: A conscious goal. At one point, the Ask The Tropers page description was "Appeals to the troper hivemind".
* [[Hive Mind]]: A conscious goal. At one point, the Ask The Tropers page description was "Appeals to the troper hivemind".
* [[Hurricane of Puns]]:
* [[Hurricane of Puns]]:
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* [[Overused Running Gag]]:
* [[Overused Running Gag]]:
** [[I Am Not Making This Up]] and [[So, Yeah]] were so overused that the wiki said "enough is enough!" and purged all mention of them from the wiki, deleting and perma-locking their pages. Other tropes that were the subject of troper misuse due to [[Opinion Myopia]] (such as [[Complete Monster]] and [[Magnificent Bastard]], which were also subject to similar contention here) were either disambiguated or given an [[Example Sectionectomy]] to prevent their overuse.
** [[I Am Not Making This Up]] and [[So, Yeah]] were so overused that the wiki said "enough is enough!" and purged all mention of them from the wiki, deleting and perma-locking their pages. Other tropes that were the subject of troper misuse due to [[Opinion Myopia]] (such as [[Complete Monster]] and [[Magnificent Bastard]], which were also subject to similar contention here) were either disambiguated or given an [[Example Sectionectomy]] to prevent their overuse.
** Some particular [[Fetish Fuel]]-related tropes such as [[Panty Shot]], alongside relatively tamer examples such as [[Hot Mom]] and [[Hot Dad]], fell afoul of similar misuse, especially among the genuinely creepier elements of the old userbase. Both this unsavory behavior and the excessive administrative action taken in curtailing it is source of at least one [[Broken Base|major break in the userbase]], and among many other things resulted in the creation of a Fetish Fuel Wikia (that ended up deleted when [[Wikia|FANDOM]] went on a purge of its own). It's worth noting that both [https://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/Administrivia/NoLewdnessNoPrudishness TV Tropes] and All The Tropes have a [[All The Tropes:No Lewdness, No Prudishness|"No Lewdness, No Prudishness"]] - and/or deter [[A Date With Rosie Palms|excessive one-handed editing]].
** Some particular [[Fetish Fuel]]-related tropes such as [[Panty Shot]], alongside relatively tamer examples such as [[Hot Mom]] and [[Hot Dad]], fell afoul of similar misuse, especially among the genuinely creepier elements of the old userbase. Both this unsavory behavior and the excessive administrative action taken in curtailing it is source of at least one [[Broken Base|major break in the userbase]], - among many other things, it resulted in the creation of a Fetish Fuel Wiki that ended up deleted when [[Wikia|FANDOM]] went on a purge of its own. It's worth noting that both [https://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/Administrivia/NoLewdnessNoPrudishness TV Tropes] and All The Tropes have a [[All The Tropes:No Lewdness, No Prudishness|"No Lewdness, No Prudishness"]] rule intended to deter [[A Date With Rosie Palms|excessive one-handed editing]].
* [[Poe's Law]]: TV Tropes fell victim to this during [[The Second Google Incident]] - several works were cutlisted by members in protest of the "zero-tolerance" policy that was adopted. While obvious ultra-famous works like ''[[Romeo and Juliet]]''<ref>...which has [[wikipedia:Ashcroft v. Free Speech Coalition#Majority opinion|a history of being used this way]].</ref> were at little risk, one particular work named ''[[Black Bird]]'' ended up being cut for real; it was restored afterwards, and the TV Tropes administration admitted it was removed in error (which was considered quite rare for them).
* [[Poe's Law]]: TV Tropes fell victim to this during [[The Second Google Incident]] - several works were cutlisted by members in protest of the "zero-tolerance" policy that was adopted. While obvious ultra-famous works like ''[[Romeo and Juliet]]''<ref>...which has [[wikipedia:Ashcroft v. Free Speech Coalition#Majority opinion|a history of being used this way]].</ref> were at little risk, one particular work named ''[[Black Bird]]'' ended up being cut for real; it was restored afterwards, and the TV Tropes administration of the time admitted it was removed in error (which was considered quite rare for them).
* [[Post Modern]]: Plenty of examples. Since the site is a catalog of devices used in fiction, the whole site is this.
* [[Post Modern]]: Plenty of examples. Since the site is a catalog of devices used in fiction, the whole site is this.
* [[Punny Name]]: Quite a few article titles.
* [[Punny Name]]: Quite a few article titles.
* [[Rant-Inducing Slight]]: [http://www.cracked.com/blog/4-websites-that-are-clearly-f2123king-with-me/ An August 2015 article] on ''[[Cracked.com]]'' deftly skewered TVT for the more ridiculous, tone-deaf and flat-out disturbing "Real Life" examples that show up on trope pages (some of which were inherited by ATT and are still being cleaned up as they are discovered). TVT's user base decided that they had been "betrayed" by Cracked.com and all but declared war on the website.
* [[Rant-Inducing Slight]]: [http://www.cracked.com/blog/4-websites-that-are-clearly-f2123king-with-me/ An August 2015 article] on ''[[Cracked.com]]'' deftly skewered TVT for the more ridiculous, tone-deaf and flat-out disturbing "Real Life" examples that show up on trope pages (some of which were inherited by ATT and are still being cleaned up as they are discovered). TVT's user base decided that they had been "betrayed" by Cracked.com and all but declared war on the website.
* [[Reasonable Authority Figure]]s: The new owners of TV Tropes, Drew and Chris, have proven themselves to be this from the start; while moderation had a long way to go around the time of the site changed hands, they have since aimed towards becoming examples of this trope as well.
* [[Reasonable Authority Figure]]s: The new owners of TV Tropes, Drew and Chris, have aimed to be this from the start - while moderation had a long way to go around the time of the site changed hands, they have since aimed towards becoming examples of this trope as well, though they are far from immune to mis-steps.
* [[Running Gag]]: Several, most commonly "[[Tropes Will Ruin Your Life]]".
* [[Running Gag]]: Several, most commonly "[[Tropes Will Ruin Your Life]]".
* [[Schmuck Bait]]: A lot of external links are this. Notable offenders:
* [[Schmuck Bait]]: A lot of external links are this. Notable offenders:
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* [[Visual Pun]]: Some of the images for their trope articles are this.
* [[Visual Pun]]: Some of the images for their trope articles are this.
* [[Wiki Walk]]: It's a wiki, what else would you expect?
* [[Wiki Walk]]: It's a wiki, what else would you expect?
* [[Wimpification]]: The evolution of TVT from a free-wheeling New Media entity open to every possible point of view into a site ''so'' thin-skinned and unable to bear a single word of criticism, from either within or without, that it will casually [[Unperson|deny the very existence of the critic]] -- and bans its own users for even ''mentioning them''.


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