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== Why is Asbel x and Sophie so popular? ==
== Why is Asbel x and Sophie so popular? ==
* No, this isn't another [[Ship-to-Ship Combat]] argument ([[Hypocritical Humor|Pascal's the only girl for Asbel, anyways]]) I just don't know why so many western fans think Asbel and Sophie is a good (well, better than him and Cheria, anyway) pairing. The American fanbase has had a reputation for despising [[Token Mini-Moe|the lolis]] in the series (especially Anise and Patty), so I don't really understand why they seem to all side with Sophie? And as for the whole "whose {{spoiler|baby}} is that?" argument, why does the strong implication that it's Cheria's spark so much ire? Sophie looks about thirteen, so {{spoiler|procreation}} instantly enters [[Squick]] territory there and {{spoiler|1=since she's an [[Artificial Human]] / [[Energy Being]], is it even possible for her to crossbreed with humans anyway?}} Is it just a matter of people not liking Cheria, or is there something more to it? I'm just not sure I really understand what it's all about...
* No, this isn't another [[Ship-to-Ship Combat]] argument ([[Hypocritical Humor|Pascal's the only girl for Asbel, anyways]]) I just don't know why so many western fans think Asbel and Sophie is a good (well, better than him and Cheria, anyway) pairing. The American fanbase has had a reputation for despising [[Token Loli|the lolis]] in the series (especially Anise and Patty), so I don't really understand why they seem to all side with Sophie? And as for the whole "whose {{spoiler|baby}} is that?" argument, why does the strong implication that it's Cheria's spark so much ire? Sophie looks about thirteen, so {{spoiler|procreation}} instantly enters [[Squick]] territory there and {{spoiler|1=since she's an [[Artificial Human]] / [[Energy Being]], is it even possible for her to crossbreed with humans anyway?}} Is it just a matter of people not liking Cheria, or is there something more to it? I'm just not sure I really understand what it's all about...
** I can think of a few reasons:
** I can think of a few reasons:
*** Western fans generally prefer [[Action Girl|Action Girls]]. Then again, they usually also prefer [[Tsundere|tsunderes]] like Cheria over [[The Ingenue|ingenues]] like Sophie...
*** Western fans generally prefer [[Action Girl|Action Girls]]. Then again, they usually also prefer [[Tsundere|tsunderes]] like Cheria over [[The Ingenue|ingenues]] like Sophie...
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*** At least they managed to put more skin to Cheria and Asbel relationship in the extra part of the story in Tales of Graces F.
*** At least they managed to put more skin to Cheria and Asbel relationship in the extra part of the story in Tales of Graces F.
**** Doesn't Asbel adopt Sophie as his daughter? That makes the shipping a bit creepy.
**** Doesn't Asbel adopt Sophie as his daughter? That makes the shipping a bit creepy.
** I can offer one other reason, that ties into how underdeveloped Asbel x Cheria is. While "childhood friends become lovers" is such a popular plot device in japan that it may as well be a fetish, it's just not as popular in the west, and thus there's no inborn preference to allow people to forgive the lack of development in the main game. Also, while Sophie is the [[Token Mini-Moe]] of the game, her age difference compared to asbel is negligible. (bear in mind, I don't like any asbel ships, and from my personal experience if anyone developed the most romantic chemistry with Sophie over the course of the game, it was Malik. Now THAT'S squick.)
** I can offer one other reason, that ties into how underdeveloped Asbel x Cheria is. While "childhood friends become lovers" is such a popular plot device in japan that it may as well be a fetish, it's just not as popular in the west, and thus there's no inborn preference to allow people to forgive the lack of development in the main game. Also, while Sophie is the [[Token Loli]] of the game, her age difference compared to asbel is negligible. (bear in mind, I don't like any asbel ships, and from my personal experience if anyone developed the most romantic chemistry with Sophie over the course of the game, it was Malik. Now THAT'S squick.)


== Why does Richard {{spoiler|order the execution of Cerdic's soldiers?}} ==
== Why does Richard {{spoiler|order the execution of Cerdic's soldiers?}} ==