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** Technically, yes, but it would also mean that there would be some that have been kept boxed.
** Technically, yes, but it would also mean that there would be some that have been kept boxed.
*** A lot fewer -- remember, if Woody was the popular one, that means that a lot less of them were going to be sold. And in the 1950s, collectors who purchased toys and kept them in the box was less common.
*** A lot fewer -- remember, if Woody was the popular one, that means that a lot less of them were going to be sold. And in the 1950s, collectors who purchased toys and kept them in the box was less common.
**** This. To add more, maybe Woody dolls were worth less when they didn't have the hat. When there is an old toy, especially a rare one, that has some accesory, it's harder to find the toy with the accesory since children play with them and lose things. In this case, Woody's hat. To quote [[Toy Story 2]], "What's a cowboy without his hat?". For the collection to be truly "complete", the toys would probably have to have their accesories.
**** This. To add more, maybe Woody dolls were worth less when they didn't have the hat. When there is an old toy, especially a rare one, that has some accessory, it's harder to find the toy with the accessory since children play with them and lose things. In this case, Woody's hat. To quote [[Toy Story 2]], "What's a cowboy without his hat?". For the collection to be truly "complete", the toys would probably have to have their accessories.
** This would also explain why Stinky Pete (blatantly the least popular character in the show) is still mint-in-the-box, having not been sold when the show was popular. Remember, his backstory was that he spent years on a store shelf since children didn't want a Stinky Pete doll.
** This would also explain why Stinky Pete (blatantly the least popular character in the show) is still mint-in-the-box, having not been sold when the show was popular. Remember, his backstory was that he spent years on a store shelf since children didn't want a Stinky Pete doll.
* How many of the old 70's and 80's toys have you been able to find in second hand stores or on ebay? It's the same principle; the line's so old that finding ''any'' figure from it is valuable. As a member of the Transformers fandom and having experience with looking for different figures of the line, I can tell you with much certainty that finding an original 1980's mint-in-box Optimus Prime or Grimlock figure is really hard to do, and when you ''do'' find them, they're a lot of expensive, money that I'm sure Big Al - with his poorly-paying job - wouldn't have the money for.
* How many of the old '70s and '80s toys have you been able to find in second hand stores or on eBay? It's the same principle; the line's so old that finding ''any'' figure from it is valuable. As a member of the Transformers fandom and having experience with looking for different figures of the line, I can tell you with much certainty that finding an original 1980's mint-in-box Optimus Prime or Grimlock figure is really hard to do, and when you ''do'' find them, they're a lot of expensive, money that I'm sure Big Al - with his poorly-paying job - wouldn't have the money for.
** Al is hardly poorly paid. He owns the store and lives in a penthouse appartment.
** Al is hardly poorly paid. He owns the store and lives in a penthouse apartment.
** Owning a small toy store does not make a man rich, he'd make only a little more money that average stockers. If he was an important CEO or something, maybe, but his office was located inside the store. If he was making real money, he wouldn't dress up in stupid costumes to attract customers.
** Owning a small toy store does not make a man rich, he'd make only a little more money that average stockers. If he was an important CEO or something, maybe, but his office was located inside the store. If he was making real money, he wouldn't dress up in stupid costumes to attract customers.
** Well, his shop doesn't seem small (going by ''Toy Story 2'', it looks roughly the same size as a Toys R Us), and he can afford to advertise on TV (I think the advert implied there were multiple Al's Toy Barns, but it's been a while since I saw the film so I may be mistaken). As for the chicken suit... well, maybe he's secretly a furry?
** Well, his shop doesn't seem small (going by ''Toy Story 2'', it looks roughly the same size as a Toys R Us), and he can afford to advertise on TV (I think the advert implied there were multiple Al's Toy Barns, but it's been a while since I saw the film so I may be mistaken). As for the chicken suit... well, maybe he's secretly a furry?
*** [[Completly Missing The Point|A chicken suit makes him a]] [[Fan Nickname|feathery]], [[Completly Missing The Point|not a furry.]]
*** A chicken suit makes him a [[Fan Nickname|feathery]], not a furry.
*** In the first movie, we get the line in the Buzz Lightyear ad, "available in all Al's Toy Barn outlets", but since the second film shows a map to the nearest one and is personally run by Al, I'm not sure if that's a subtle retcon or not.
*** In the first movie, we get the line in the Buzz Lightyear ad, "available in all Al's Toy Barn outlets", but since the second film shows a map to the nearest one and is personally run by Al, I'm not sure if that's a subtle retcon or not.
*** The chicken suit was because he was doing a commercial as Al of Al's Toy Barn, and either didn't think of or didn't want to use an actor to play him. He just happens to be [[The Danza]], thanks to using his own name for the toy barn lines. As for him running that particular outlet, I figured that was the central outlet, or was built around the original store or near Al's home and Al didn't want to move to another town, or some other personal or professional reason that Al had for having his office and filming the commercial at that particular outlet.
*** The chicken suit was because he was doing a commercial as Al of Al's Toy Barn, and either didn't think of or didn't want to use an actor to play him. He just happens to be [[The Danza]], thanks to using his own name for the toy barn lines. As for him running that particular outlet, I figured that was the central outlet, or was built around the original store or near Al's home and Al didn't want to move to another town, or some other personal or professional reason that Al had for having his office and filming the commercial at that particular outlet.
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** [[Word of God]] states that Woody is a hand-me-down from Andy's Dad to Andy -- as such, it's not hard to suggest that the posters etc were also initially Andy's dad's. Plus, if I recall correctly, most of the western-themed stuff in Andy's bedroom apart from Woody is not so much specifically ''Woody's Roundup'' merchandise as it is generic western / cowboy-themed stuff.
** [[Word of God]] states that Woody is a hand-me-down from Andy's Dad to Andy -- as such, it's not hard to suggest that the posters etc were also initially Andy's dad's. Plus, if I recall correctly, most of the western-themed stuff in Andy's bedroom apart from Woody is not so much specifically ''Woody's Roundup'' merchandise as it is generic western / cowboy-themed stuff.


== What is it about ''[[Buzz Lightyear of Star Command]]'' that leads action figures of its characters to have the "Pinocchio delusion?" It's clear from the second movie that it's not a quirk of Andy's buzz or even restricted to Buzz Lightyear figures, but other new toys don't seem to have it, with the exception of the Pizza Planet aliens. Is it related to Buzz Lightyears not being conscious of their surroundings ("in hypersleep") in the toy store (with the exception of display models), unlike Stinky Pete, the Barbies, the Rock 'Em Sock 'Em Robots, and so forth? ==
== What is it about ''[[Buzz Lightyear of Star Command]]'' that leads action figures of its characters to have the "Pinocchio delusion?" ==
It's clear from the second movie that it's not a quirk of Andy's buzz or even restricted to Buzz Lightyear figures, but other new toys don't seem to have it, with the exception of the Pizza Planet aliens. Is it related to Buzz Lightyears not being conscious of their surroundings ("in hypersleep") in the toy store (with the exception of display models), unlike Stinky Pete, the Barbies, the Rock 'Em Sock 'Em Robots, and so forth?
* On that note, where exactly did the display Buzz think he was? Where would a large group of Space Rangers be kept in hypersleep, and why would it be on the same planet as Zurg's apparent base?
* On that note, where exactly did the display Buzz think he was? Where would a large group of Space Rangers be kept in hypersleep, and why would it be on the same planet as Zurg's apparent base?
** Remember the scrapped plot about the "Buzz Lightyear" recall? Perhaps [[My Little Panzer|the recall was due to some odd chemical used in Buzz's production]] that caused him to think he was the "real deal".
** Remember the scrapped plot about the "Buzz Lightyear" recall? Perhaps [[My Little Panzer|the recall was due to some odd chemical used in Buzz's production]] that caused him to think he was the "real deal".
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* I always assumed that Jessie ''did'' see Stinky Pete turn the TV on, but didn't mention it because she was more loyal to him than she was to Woody. Plus, once Woody accused her, it seemed like she got caught up in the principle of the thing and didn't want to dignify his accusation by shifting the blame.
* I always assumed that Jessie ''did'' see Stinky Pete turn the TV on, but didn't mention it because she was more loyal to him than she was to Woody. Plus, once Woody accused her, it seemed like she got caught up in the principle of the thing and didn't want to dignify his accusation by shifting the blame.


== Is [[media:TS2_Pose_8634.jpg|this pose]] a [[Shout-Out]] to anything? ==
== Is [[Media:TS2 Pose 8634.jpg|this pose]] a [[Shout-Out]] to anything? ==
Seriously, it looks soooo freaking familier, but I can't tell if it's genuinely a [[Shout-Out]], or if it's just my brain being wierd. IJBM that I can't figure this out...! Anyone? >_<
Seriously, it looks soooo freaking familier, but I can't tell if it's genuinely a [[Shout-Out]], or if it's just my brain being wierd. IJBM that I can't figure this out...! Anyone? >_<
* Isn't it from Madagascar?
* Isn't it from Madagascar?