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While a very different kind of character, [[Cerebus Syndrome]] may lead a [[Noble Bigot]] or an [[Innocent Bigot]] to become a '''Troubled Sympathetic Bigot'''. A '''Troubled Sympathetic Bigot''' tends to be neither heroic nor villainous—he's only a little human, struggling with his life.
While a very different kind of character, [[Cerebus Syndrome]] may lead a [[Noble Bigot]] or an [[Innocent Bigot]] to become a '''Troubled Sympathetic Bigot'''. A '''Troubled Sympathetic Bigot''' tends to be neither heroic nor villainous—he's only a little human, struggling with his life.


Sometimes a [[Knight Templar]], [[Heteronormative Crusader]] or [[Windmill Crusader]] can be a '''Troubled Sympathetic Bigot''' at heart. A [[He-Man Woman Hater]] is rarely this, while it's far more common in a woman who [[Does Not Like Men]]—sometimes with a cheesy justification. All of these characters are likely to suffer from [[Internalized Categorism]] or be recovering from [[Black and White Insanity]]. A [[Politically-Incorrect Villain]] who makes a [[Heel Face Turn]] may have a transition period as a '''Troubled Sympathetic Bigot'''.
Sometimes a [[Knight Templar]], [[Heteronormative Crusader]] or [[Windmill Crusader]] can be a '''Troubled Sympathetic Bigot''' at heart. A [[He-Man Woman Hater]] is rarely this, while it's far more common in a woman who [[Does Not Like Men]] — sometimes with a cheesy justification. All of these characters are likely to suffer from [[Internalized Categorism]] or be recovering from [[Black and White Insanity]]. A [[Politically-Incorrect Villain]] who makes a [[Heel Face Turn]] may have a transition period as a '''Troubled Sympathetic Bigot'''.


For characters who are destructive yet sympathetic - without having any internal conflict about their own bigotry - see instead [[Woobie, Destroyer of Worlds]].
For characters who are destructive yet sympathetic - without having any internal conflict about their own bigotry - see instead [[Woobie, Destroyer of Worlds]].


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== [[Anime]] and [[Manga]] ==

== Anime ==
* In the [[Fullmetal Alchemist]] movie, many of the {{spoiler|AU versions}} of the characters that we've come to know and love have quite literally become {{spoiler|Nazis}}. Quite sympathetic ones though.
* In the [[Fullmetal Alchemist]] movie, many of the {{spoiler|AU versions}} of the characters that we've come to know and love have quite literally become {{spoiler|Nazis}}. Quite sympathetic ones though.


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== [[Literature]] ==
== [[Literature]] ==
* In [[Les Misérables]] [[Inspector Javert]] [[By-The-Book Cop|starts out as a regular lawman]], but is gradually shown to suffer from [[Black and White Insanity]]. In the end, he's quite sympathetic as he struggles with his worldview.
* In ''[[Les Misérables]]'', [[Inspector Javert]] [[By-The-Book Cop|starts out as a regular lawman]], but is gradually shown to suffer from [[Black and White Insanity]]. In the end, he's quite sympathetic as he struggles with his worldview.
* In a weird example, Vimes from ''[[Discworld]]'' is ''treated'' like one, but it's a mostly informed characteristic - he never actually says anything especially racist. Of course, since he thinks equally badly of all Discworld species, he probably doesn't exactly qualify as "bigoted" anyways, and is more of a Troubled Sympathetic ''Misanthrope''. He loves the city and will fight like hell to keep it in order, but he doesn't think well of the actual people. [[Discworld/Thud|Thud]] showcases Vimes's internal conflicts best, but most of the City Watch books are driven by Vimes's fight to protect and serve a bunch of assholes he doesn't care about.
* In a weird example, Vimes from ''[[Discworld]]'' is ''treated'' like one, but it's a mostly informed characteristic - he never actually says anything especially racist. Of course, since he thinks equally badly of all Discworld species, he probably doesn't exactly qualify as "bigoted" anyways, and is more of a Troubled Sympathetic ''Misanthrope''. He loves the city and will fight like hell to keep it in order, but he doesn't think well of the actual people. ''[[Thud!]]'' showcases Vimes's internal conflicts best, but most of the City Watch books are driven by Vimes's fight to protect and serve a bunch of assholes he doesn't care about.
** It's clearer in [[Discworld/Men At Arms|Men At Arms]], when the Watch gets a troll, a dwarf, and a werewolf as new recruits. From there on, it gets a passing mention as he reflects that more non-humans are entering the Watch and comes in really strong in [[Discworld/Thud|Thud]] when he's forced to take on a vampire.
** It's clearer in [[Men at Arms]], when the Watch gets a troll, a dwarf, and a werewolf as new recruits. From there on, it gets a passing mention as he reflects that more non-humans are entering the Watch and comes in really strong in ''Thud!'' when he's forced to take on a vampire.
** With regards to vampires Vimes is certainly a bigot, and refuses to permit any into the watch until forced by Vetinari. He is shown in Men at Arms to hate vampires because of their stereotypical links to aristocracy. The latest book ''Snuff'' deals very heavily with the ideas of prejudice (particularly towards Goblins who are not considered citizens and ergo, have no rights even when they're the victims or murder) and shows Vimes to have grown quite philosophical about his earlier prejudices. His comments about another character finding redemption through his treating all thinking beings as equals say a lot about his [[Character Development]].
** With regards to vampires Vimes is certainly a bigot, and refuses to permit any into the watch until forced by Vetinari. He is shown in ''Men at Arms'' to hate vampires because of their stereotypical links to aristocracy. The book ''[[Snuff]]'' deals very heavily with the ideas of prejudice (particularly towards Goblins who are not considered citizens and thus have no rights even when they're the victims or murder) and shows Vimes to have grown quite philosophical about his earlier prejudices. His comments about another character finding redemption through his treating all thinking beings as equals say a lot about his [[Character Development]].
* In [[The Winds of War and War and Remembrance]] it is quite regular for heroes to be this toward Germans and Japanese. Not Nazis and Japanese militarists, Germans and Japanese, and it is taken for granted.
* In ''[[The Winds of War and War and Remembrance]]'' it is quite regular for heroes to be this toward Germans and Japanese. Not Nazis and Japanese militarists, Germans and Japanese, and it is taken for granted.
* Queen Elizabeth Winton in [[Honor Harrington]] toward the planet of Haven. In her case not only did they apparently assassinate kin of hers, they had mounted a war of aggression against her kingdom and until recently had had a grotesquely tyrannical regime. Under the circumstance it is understandable but it delayed peace between them(it did not help that a more shadowy player in the game was committing more attempted assassinations to keep them fighting).
* Queen Elizabeth Winton in ''[[Honor Harrington]]'' toward the planet of Haven. In her case not only did they apparently assassinate kin of hers, they had mounted a war of aggression against her kingdom and until recently had had a grotesquely tyrannical regime. Under the circumstance it is understandable but it delayed peace between them(it did not help that a more shadowy player in the game was committing more attempted assassinations to keep them fighting).
* Rene Vorbretten in [[Vorkosigan Saga]] not only hates Cetegandans, which is an understandable if rather an ungentlemanly trait for such an otherwise amiable character, as not only are they the national enemy but they killed his father in battle. In fact he hates them so much that he is disgusted to find that he bears Cetagandan ancestry. In other words he is like a Russian who not only hates Germans for invading Russia but is shocked to learn that some of his ancestors are German like the ancestors of some real Russians(and that would make for a theme in a non sci-fi drama by the way). In fairness to him not only does his country make a big deal about geneology but this discovery threatens his legal claim to a noble title, or in other words is effectively a threat to his home.
* Rene Vorbretten in [[Vorkosigan Saga]] not only hates Cetegandans, which is an understandable if rather an ungentlemanly trait for such an otherwise amiable character, as not only are they the national enemy but they killed his father in battle. In fact he hates them so much that he is disgusted to find that he bears Cetagandan ancestry. In other words he is like a Russian who not only hates Germans for invading Russia but is shocked to learn that some of his ancestors are German like the ancestors of some real Russians(and that would make for a theme in a non sci-fi drama by the way). In fairness to him not only does his country make a big deal about genealogy but this discovery threatens his legal claim to a noble title, or in other words is effectively a threat to his home.


== [[Live Action TV]] ==
== [[Live-Action TV]] ==
* Archie Bunker from ''[[All in The Family]]'' has shades of this (as well as most tropes related to bigotry), as one of the main themes of the series is how lost he feels in a modern world that constantly challenges his prejudices. This is most notable in "Stretch Cunningham Goodbye", one of the series' best episodes, where Archie is invited to give the eulogy at a close friend's funeral, not knowing that the man was Jewish.
* Archie Bunker from ''[[All in The Family]]'' has shades of this (as well as most tropes related to bigotry), as one of the main themes of the series is how lost he feels in a modern world that constantly challenges his prejudices. This is most notable in "Stretch Cunningham Goodbye", one of the series' best episodes, where Archie is invited to give the eulogy at a close friend's funeral, not knowing that the man was Jewish.
* Pierce Hawthorne on ''[[Community]]'' can come across as this. Pierce's inappropriateness, overzealous creativity, and pathological need to be accepted at all cost are all rooted in frustrations getting attention from his father and his fear that his age is now isolating himself from the rest of the study group.
* Pierce Hawthorne on ''[[Community]]'' can come across as this. Pierce's inappropriateness, overzealous creativity, and pathological need to be accepted at all cost are all rooted in frustrations getting attention from his father and his fear that his age is now isolating himself from the rest of the study group.
* King Uther from ''[[Merlin (TV series)|Merlin]]''. He hates all magic because [[Balancing Death's Books|of his wife's death]], and genuinely believes that he's doing what's right when he commits genocide against those that practice magic. He's also a [[Hypocrite]] considering he seeks out magical help when he's really desperate (thus indicating that he knows magic can be used for ''good''), and ultimately his actions cause his illegitimate daughter to turn against him, something that drives him to his death.
* King Uther from ''[[Merlin (TV series)|Merlin]]''. He hates all magic because [[Balancing Death's Books|of his wife's death]], and genuinely believes that he's doing what's right when he commits genocide against those that practice magic. He's also a [[Hypocrite]] considering he seeks out magical help when he's really desperate (thus indicating that he knows magic can be used for ''good''), and ultimately his actions cause his illegitimate daughter to turn against him, something that drives him to his death.

== [[Theater]] ==
== [[Theater]] ==
* Nellie Forbush and Lieutenant Cable from ''[[South Pacific]]''. Nellie is in love with Emile but tearfully leaves him when she finds out he was once married to a "colored" woman, and has two half-Polynesian children. Cable is in love with Liat, but refuses to marry a Tonkinese woman. Cable's song "You've Got To Be Carefully Taught" is a self-loathing explanation of how he and Nellie acquired such deep-seated prejudice. {{spoiler|Nellie eventually overcomes her prejudice and learns to love Emile's children, but Cable is killed before he has a chance to reconcile with Liat.}}
* Nellie Forbush and Lieutenant Cable from ''[[South Pacific]]''. Nellie is in love with Emile but tearfully leaves him when she finds out he was once married to a "colored" woman, and has two half-Polynesian children. Cable is in love with Liat, but refuses to marry a Tonkinese woman. Cable's song "You've Got To Be Carefully Taught" is a self-loathing explanation of how he and Nellie acquired such deep-seated prejudice. {{spoiler|Nellie eventually overcomes her prejudice and learns to love Emile's children, but Cable is killed before he has a chance to reconcile with Liat.}}


== [[Visual Novels]] ==
== [[Video Games]] ==
=== [[Visual Novels]] ===
* Sakuya Shirogane Le Bel, of ''[[Hatoful Boyfriend]]'', is a huge racist and classist [[Upper Class Twit]] with the [[Freudian Excuse]] that this is exactly how his father raised him to be, and he can't imagine going against his father's will. This causes him quite a bit of trouble when the (human) heroine pursues romance with him and then helps him acknowledge his passion for music. The free version of his route ends with him going to confront his father about his desire to be a working-class pigeon; in the paid version {{spoiler|his father disowns him for this}}. The dark arc, ''Bad Boys' Love'', [[Break the Haughty|goes even further]]: {{spoiler|disowned half-brother Yuuya reveals that Sakuya is actually his ''full'' brother, not actually the son of the father who raised him a bigot, and also a [[You Are What You Hate|half-breed of less than noble blood]]. [[Trauma Conga Line|And then Yuuya dies in front of him]]}}.
* Sakuya Shirogane Le Bel, of ''[[Hatoful Boyfriend]]'', is a huge racist and classist [[Upper Class Twit]] with the [[Freudian Excuse]] that this is exactly how his father raised him to be, and he can't imagine going against his father's will. This causes him quite a bit of trouble when the (human) heroine pursues romance with him and then helps him acknowledge his passion for music. The free version of his route ends with him going to confront his father about his desire to be a working-class pigeon; in the paid version {{spoiler|his father disowns him for this}}. The dark arc, ''Bad Boys' Love'', [[Break the Haughty|goes even further]]: {{spoiler|disowned half-brother Yuuya reveals that Sakuya is actually his ''full'' brother, not actually the son of the father who raised him a bigot, and also a [[You Are What You Hate|half-breed of less than noble blood]]. [[Trauma Conga Line|And then Yuuya dies in front of him]]}}.


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