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** To add insult to injury, Peter's reaction to learning this was ridiculous. He cried a bit, broke some furniture... and that's it. His only thoughts about kids are "They are all that's left of Gwen." Never mind that their father is his archenemy [[Complete Monster|who murdered his brother and his own child]]. And [[Brand New Day|later]] he keeps her photo in his room. So Peter still views Gwen as some kind of a saint when revelation like THIS should have shattered that image forever. That's a major [[Moral Dissonance]]. And, even though MJ hid this truth from him during their whole relationship, this never caused any problems later... If it had, we could've been spared that [[Deal with the Devil]] and its attendant baggage.
** To add insult to injury, Peter's reaction to learning this was ridiculous. He cried a bit, broke some furniture... and that's it. His only thoughts about kids are "They are all that's left of Gwen." Never mind that their father is his archenemy [[Complete Monster|who murdered his brother and his own child]]. And [[Brand New Day|later]] he keeps her photo in his room. So Peter still views Gwen as some kind of a saint when revelation like THIS should have shattered that image forever. That's a major [[Moral Dissonance]]. And, even though MJ hid this truth from him during their whole relationship, this never caused any problems later... If it had, we could've been spared that [[Deal with the Devil]] and its attendant baggage.
* After his Aunt May's wedding, Parker gets hammered and sleeps with his roommate Michelle (also drunk). Later they "reveal" that Michelle slipped Parker cider when he wasn't looking, so HIS inebriation was due to his own lack of experience being drunk.
* After his Aunt May's wedding, Parker gets hammered and sleeps with his roommate Michelle (also drunk). Later they "reveal" that Michelle slipped Parker cider when he wasn't looking, so HIS inebriation was due to his own lack of experience being drunk.
** After Peter attends Aunt May's wedding, and starts drinking heavily when he sees Mary Jane, he wakes up in bed the next morning with Michele, his [[Tsundere]] roommate. Fair enough. He accidentally calls her "MJ". She ''throws him out of the house''. She later leaves cookies out, but padlocks the fridge so [[Complete Monster|Peter can't get any milk]]. The Chameleon later imitates Peter and sleeps with Michele, and she thinks they're now boyfriend and girlfriend. Peter doesn't tell her what happened, until she ticks him off by forcing a curfew on him. She doesn't believe him, and punches him. When Peter's coworker ticks her off, she draws a line down the apartment, and destroys ''any'' of Peter's things on "her" side. At this point, the character is basically >90% [[:Category:Yandere|Yandere]], by volume.
** After Peter attends Aunt May's wedding, and starts drinking heavily when he sees Mary Jane, he wakes up in bed the next morning with Michele, his [[Tsundere]] roommate. Fair enough. He accidentally calls her "MJ". She ''throws him out of the house''. She later leaves cookies out, but padlocks the fridge so [[Complete Monster|Peter can't get any milk]]. The Chameleon later imitates Peter and sleeps with Michele, and she thinks they're now boyfriend and girlfriend. Peter doesn't tell her what happened, until she ticks him off by forcing a curfew on him. She doesn't believe him, and punches him. When Peter's coworker ticks her off, she draws a line down the apartment, and destroys ''any'' of Peter's things on "her" side. At this point, the character is basically >90% [[Yandere]], by volume.
* As if ''[[One More Day]]'' wasn't bad enough, Quesada has introduced Carlie Cooper, a new woman being pushed as Peter Parker's soul-mate, to the point where even MJ is telling him to be with her. Aside from being such a blatant [[Creator's Pet]] who looks more like [[King of the Hill|Peggy Hill]] than anyone you'd want to date, there's two major problems with this: Carlie is supposed to be a stand-in for Joe Quesada's daughter to the point of being named after her...and Joe is using Peter as a stand-in for himself to the point of his looking like Joe in recent issues. It may not be intentional, but it's still [[Squick]].
* As if ''[[One More Day]]'' wasn't bad enough, Quesada has introduced Carlie Cooper, a new woman being pushed as Peter Parker's soul-mate, to the point where even MJ is telling him to be with her. Aside from being such a blatant [[Creator's Pet]] who looks more like [[King of the Hill|Peggy Hill]] than anyone you'd want to date, there's two major problems with this: Carlie is supposed to be a stand-in for Joe Quesada's daughter to the point of being named after her...and Joe is using Peter as a stand-in for himself to the point of his looking like Joe in recent issues. It may not be intentional, but it's still [[Squick]].
** The amount of [[Creator's Pet]] shilling going on with Carlie Cooper is bad enough, but the fact that their main strategies for trying to get fans to accept her as Peter's new girlfriend consist of that, and [[Derailing Love Interests|derailing every other]] [[Character Derailment|character]] to do so. And of course, like all of Quesada's finest work, most of it is targeted at Mary-Jane. Although they've really taken the cake as of recent when they even went so far as to suggest [http://i53.tinypic.com/a10b47.jpg Mary-Jane only loved Peter because he was Spider-Man], from ''PETER'S OWN MOUTH''... Yeah, no she didn't. Otherwise she wouldn't have rejected Peter's marriage proposals twice, or refused dating him seriously for so long, when canonically she knew he was Spider-Man since the night Uncle Ben was killed. And in the retconned history presented in ''One Moment in Time'' she even refuses to marry him outright ''because he was Spider-Man''. It doesn't even make sense in the newer continuity presented! Linkara went through a pretty damn big rant when ''JLA: Act of God'' suggested Lois only loved and married Clark for Superman. Can anyone ''imagine'' the rant he would go through if he ever reviewed the storyline where ''this'' was brought up?
** The amount of [[Creator's Pet]] shilling going on with Carlie Cooper is bad enough, but the fact that their main strategies for trying to get fans to accept her as Peter's new girlfriend consist of that, and [[Derailing Love Interests|derailing every other]] [[Character Derailment|character]] to do so. And of course, like all of Quesada's finest work, most of it is targeted at Mary-Jane. Although they've really taken the cake as of recent when they even went so far as to suggest [http://i53.tinypic.com/a10b47.jpg Mary-Jane only loved Peter because he was Spider-Man], from ''PETER'S OWN MOUTH''... Yeah, no she didn't. Otherwise she wouldn't have rejected Peter's marriage proposals twice, or refused dating him seriously for so long, when canonically she knew he was Spider-Man since the night Uncle Ben was killed. And in the retconned history presented in ''One Moment in Time'' she even refuses to marry him outright ''because he was Spider-Man''. It doesn't even make sense in the newer continuity presented! Linkara went through a pretty damn big rant when ''JLA: Act of God'' suggested Lois only loved and married Clark for Superman. Can anyone ''imagine'' the rant he would go through if he ever reviewed the storyline where ''this'' was brought up?
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