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That candy bar you shoplifted? Those 50 cents it cost will land you about 50 years in prison! You're scum! How could you! The store owners will starve because of you! I hope you can live with yourself!
 
This trope comes in 4four varieties:
# '''Writers believe this is as wrong as they are showing it.''' In this case, the "What do you mean," part is from the writer, so this overlaps with [[Values Dissonance]]. [[Straw Character]]s and [[Digital Piracy Is Evil]] are the most common forms of this. A prime source of [[Narm]].
# '''Writers think this isn't that bad, but exaggerate for effect.''' So this isn't moral dissonance, it's just [[Anvilicious]]. Even if the thing is wrong, presenting it as something magnitudes worse usually makes it a [[Clueless Aesop]]. [[Can't Get Away with Nuthin']] uses this a lot.
# '''Writers use [[Values Dissonance]] for [[Played for Drama|dramatic effect]].''' This is common in [[Dystopia]]s, police states, histories, and cults. But it can also be used to make organizations look like this when they aren't, like with [[Straw Dystopia]]s. But thanks to [[Values Dissonance]], this is often about [[Truth in Television|real cultures]] from the past or present.
# '''Writers invoke [[Values Dissonance]] for [[Rule of Funny|Comedic]] [[Played for Laughs|Effect]].''' A lot of the well-written animated shows, even dating back decades, would do this. And [[Sitcom|Sit Coms]]s will do this as well. [[Arson, Murder, and Jaywalking]] or [[Selective Enforcement]] is often invoked here.
 
Since laws all over the world are rife with [[Values Dissonance]], things that are misdemeanors or not even illegal in one country but treated as serious crimes in others can seem like this.
 
'''Compare with:'''
* {{related|All Crimes Are Equal}} [[All Crimes Are Equal]]
* {{related|Deliberate Values Dissonance}} [[Deliberate Values Dissonance]]
* {{related|Designated Evil}} [[Designated Evil]]: When a character is evil, without necessarily having done anything particularly bad, because the script needs him to be.
* {{related|Law of Disproportionate Response}} [[Law of Disproportionate Response]]
* {{related|Disproportionate Retribution}} [[Disproportionate Retribution]]
* {{related|Evil Is Petty}} [[Evil Is Petty]]
* {{related|And That's Terrible}} [[And That's Terrible]]
* {{related|Mattress Tag Gag}} [[Mattress Tag Gag]]: A standard "crime", especially in comedic works.
* {{related|Poke the Poodle}} [[Poke the Poodle]]
* {{related|Serious Business}} [[Serious Business]]
* {{related|Faux Horrific}} [[Faux Horrific]]
* {{related|Everything Is Racist}} [[Everything Is Racist]]
 
'''Contrast with:'''
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* Gamefly commercials. Various gamers having [[Freak-Out|epic-level temper tantrums]] over a bad game they purchased, complete with screaming, destruction of personal property, and even chucking televisions off their roofs.
* Subway has a line of commercials best paraphrased as "Fast food will ruin your life." Someone ordering a fairly normal fast food meal is told things like they'll instantly get fat, be abandoned by their significant other, and need therapy.
* A carpet cleaning service, Stanley Steemer, has a commercial where two of their employees see a rolled-up carpet set up for trash collection. Both react as if it were a corpse, complete with one racing out to its side, cradling it tenderly, [[Schindlerssobbing Listsobbing|"I could have saved this one!",]] and ending with a [[Skyward Scream]]ed [[Big No]].
* A commercial for the sweetener Truvia shows a woman committing a particular act. After she completes this act, the shame and self-loathing on her face is glaring. Her SO walks up and looks down at her with a look of absolute disgust. The heinous act this woman committed? Eating a tiny piece of cheesecake, which could have led to her getting fat.
** Yay eating disorders!
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* A laundry detergent commercial directed by [[Rob Zombie]] portrays some of the less favorable outcomes of a wash cycle (stretching, shrinking and fading) in the style of cold-blooded torture.
* One credit card commercial showed people streaming through a checkout counter with astounding speed, swiping their cards with mechanical precision. Then one guy pauses for a moment to pull out cash. The line comes to a halt, and ''every single person there'' gives him a very nasty look for not being a credit-card-using speed demon.
* We have HARD WATER!!!{{context}}
* You don't give your children All-Natural Organic <Insert brand specifics here> snacks? Well, enjoy eating your pesticide-coated cardboard.
* [[Johnny Turbo]] fights tooth and nail against the evil Feka corporation for trying to make a profit with a competing product.
* Oak milk. One ad has a somewhat odd fellow walking through a near-deserted fairground at night rambling about a state of "hungrythirsty" before declaring:
{{quote|''I wish I'd given Oak to my son when he was a child, haha, just kidding, [[I Have No Son|I don't have a son]], well technically I do, but [[This Is Unforgivable!|he's in real estate...]]''}}
* Polaner All-Fruit: [http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hawQ5wobi1Y "Wouldja please pass the jelleh?"]
* [[Memetic Mutation| "Ring around the collar"]], the worst problem involving hygiene you could possibly have, at least according to old commercials for Wisk detergent.
 
== Anime and Manga ==
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{{quote|''I am not a vindictive man, but I felt, as anybody would have felt in my place, that if fellows like young Tuppy are allowed to get away with it the whole fabric of Society and Civilization must inevitably crumble.''}}
* Since ''[[Mommie Dearest]]'' is about growing up with an abusive mother, a lot of the things that set Joan off come off this way, including the infamous wire hanger scene from the film adaptation.
* ''[[The Best Christmas Pageant Ever]]''. The Herdman siblings aren't exactly nice kids, but right off the bat, the Narrator's claim that they are "the worst children in the history of the world" seems rather unfair, seeing as the worst crime they are known to commit is shoplifting. The narrator also sees their smoking, drinking, and cussing as reasons for her label - unpleasant vices, yes, but not habits that can truly make them the worst. When you learn their past of [[Parental Abandonment]] and see how they realize the darker aspects of the Nativity story (Mary and Joseph are fugitives because a king wants her child murdered; the Wise Men bring gold and incense when anyone who truly cares would have brought food) they not only come off as sympathetic, [[Jerkass Has a Point| but much wiser than anyone else in the cast.]]
== [[Live Action TV]] ==
 
== [[Live -Action TV]] ==
* ''[[Monty Python's Flying Circus]]'' did the fourth kind quite a few times, satirizing the way British culture used to encourage the first kind. The page quote comes from their restaurant sketch, combining this with [[My Greatest Failure]].
* In the ''[[Seinfeld]]'' episode The Package, Jerry is interrogated by Newman for mail fraud... and let's just say Newman relishes in the thought of catching and fining Jerry, even if there wasn't much actual fraud going on. [[Arson, Murder, and Jaywalking|He still gets fined, though.]]
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** Another time Castle and Beckett find out that Ryan's fiance slept with another man while she was already dating Ryan. They fear that this information will destroy the relationship and angst over wheter to tell him. When they finally tell him, he reveals that he already knew and did not thik that it was a problem since they were only dating for a month at the time and were not yet exclusive.
* [[Saved by the Bell|Jessie's]] (in)famous addiction to caffeine pills. This was the extremely common [[The Nineties|1990's]] [[Very Special Episode]] about otherwise [[Lawful Stupid]] overachievers using stimulants to get better grades. [[Family Ties|Alex P. Keaton]] and [[The Fresh Prince of Bel-Air|Carlton Banks]] played this straight by actually getting addicted to prescription drugs, with [[Anvilicious]] results, but, because [[Can't Get Away with Nuthin'|the show was expressly aimed at kids,]] the producers refused to reference or even imply illegal drug use in a [[Drugs Are Bad]] episode. The result is poor Elizabeth Berkley [[Chewing the Scenery]] over a bottle of no-doze as if it were Oxycontin.
* ''[[Buffy the Vampire Slayer]]'':
** Played for laughs in ''[[Buffy]]'',an episode when [[Affably Evil|Mayor Wilkins]] is making a speech right before Ascending.
{{quote|'''Buffy''': Oh. God. ([[Beat]]) He's ''really'' going to go through the whole speech, isn't he?}}
*:* More straightfowardly, the characters in Buffy had a tendency to get incredibly [[Buffy-Speak|lecture-y]] whenever one of them had a little too much to drink. Even then the lectures were always a joke, except for the one time where Xander was binge drinking {{spoiler|to try and forget about Anya.}}
:* InAlso the ''[[Buffy theplayed Vampirefor Slayer]]''laughs episodein "Buffy versus Dracula",; one of manythe negativemany thingscomplaints Spike sayshas about the famous CountDrac is, "the bugger owes me £11.".
*** Even then the lectures were always a joke, except for the one time where Xander was binge drinking {{spoiler|to try and forget about Anya.}}
* ''[[Charmed]]'' reconstructed this in the episode "Morality Bites". The sisters use their powers to punish a man who lets his dog pee in their garden and Phoebe then sees a premonition of her own death in the future and the sisters travel there to find out that Phoebe used her powers to kill a man, got caught and was being burned at the stake while modern day witch trials were going on. When the sisters come back to their time, they discover that the man they punished at the start of the episode is the same man who was leading the witch trials in the future. Phoebe then suggests that them using their powers to punish the man starts them off using them for personal gain.
{{quote|'''Piper:''' But this is just a little thing.
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* On a couple of episodes of [[Sports Night]], Bobbi Bernstein substitutes for Casey as anchor, which Dan has a problem with, since she claims he slept with her in Spain, and then never called. He swears not only has he never slept with her, he never even knew her back then, he's never been to Spain, and he wouldn't treat a woman like that. Whoever he tells this story to has the same response; "Oh, Dan. You never called?"
** Averted when he finds out that he had been to Spain and slept with Bobbi, he was just so drunk on the trip he forgot about it. Bobbi was also going by Roberta at the time and he didn't connect Bobbi with the name.
* In the ''[[Buffy the Vampire Slayer]]'' episode "Buffy versus Dracula", one of many negative things Spike says about the famous Count is, "the bugger owes me £11."
 
== [[Music]] ==
* The video to John Waite's "Missing You" uses type 3 because this is about his girlfriend suddenly leaving him for no reason. At one point, he ''breaks a phone booth phone'' out of anger and heartbreak.
* [["Weird Al" Yankovic]]'s "Don't Download This Song" mocks type 1 of the [[Digital Piracy Is Evil]] message (making it a type 4).
{{quote|''Cuz you start out stealing songs,''
''Then you're robbing liquor stores,''
''And selling crack, and running over schoolkids with your car!'' }}
** Also by "Weird Al", the narrators of "Young, Dumb and Ugly" [[Poke the Poodle|treat their ''own'' actions like this]].
{{quote|''We got a reputation round these parts,''
''We only leave a ten per cent tip -''
''Sometimes we don't return our shopping carts,''
''Stay out of our way and don't you give us no lip''
'''Cos we're young - dumb and ug-ly ...'' }}
* [[They Might Be Giants|"Why did you grow a beard?]] Why did you grow a beard? I can't leave you alone for five minutes! What the Christ! What the Devil! Why did you grow a beard?!"
* Crime Spree by MC Frontalot. Front acts like a criminal mastermind, even though his crimes are petty at best.
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== [[Real Life]] ==
* [[Grammar Nazi]]: HEIL SPELLCHECK!
** Using incorrect grammar for non-computer languages gets to some people as well.
* In his autobiography, ''The Confessions'', Saint Augustine wangsts at length over a monstrous sin he committed while he was a young man in Africa. What was the heinous crime, you ask? He ''stole some pears!'' Low quality ones! Which he threw away without eating! Okay, it was that he did it just [[For the Evulz]], but the degree still falls under this.
* In MK Gandhi's memoirs ''The Story of my Experiments With Truth'', he feels wretched with guilt over simply ''tasting'' meat when he was young.
* There are many people who consider it some kind of crime against nature to use the [[Useful Notes/Fonts|Comic Sans or Papyrus fonts]].
* Coding "grammar" is a hot topic of debate amongst even professional programmers. A group of people will lynch you if you fail to put the curly brace on the same line as the start of a new scope. Or if you CamelCase. Or you use Hungarian Notation. Or, if you do none of those things, [[Morton's Fork|a different group of people will lynch you]].
* Using incorrect grammar for non-computer languages gets to some people as well.
* Apparently cupcakes are a clear and present danger to airplanes and must be confiscated.
* Anti-drug propaganda, particularly that intended for minors, tends to drag this flailing into the deepest pits of Narm.
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